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It is very much hour by hour, day by day. Wet takings held up remarkably well for us yesterday, but who knows over the weekend. Food is through the floor and little opportunity for takeaway options in city centre.
One of our bars has a beer garden, so fingers crossed for good weather.
Hopefully the Chancellor comes out with a good support package for wages which will help the biggest cost of the business.
One of our bars has a beer garden, so fingers crossed for good weather.
Hopefully the Chancellor comes out with a good support package for wages which will help the biggest cost of the business.
It will definitely exacerbate any impact to the housing market when they all get turned in to flats.
To be honest there are around a dozen boozers within a mile of me and none are ever what you'd call busy at the best of times. Except the rough one with toothless types and dogs and karaoke on a Friday night but this is a different debate.
To be honest there are around a dozen boozers within a mile of me and none are ever what you'd call busy at the best of times. Except the rough one with toothless types and dogs and karaoke on a Friday night but this is a different debate.
Edited by R Mutt on Wednesday 18th March 13:18
Digga said:
What concerns me greatly is that we are almost throwing the baby out with the bathwater right now.
The things many of us hold dear - pubs, restaurants, cafes, music venues, theatres, cinemas, hotels - that form the backbone of what makes our world tolerable and connects us to our friends and the wider community are in peril. Thus far, there's scarce real commitment from the government to saving them.
The entertainment sector was tricky enough and we all know these are high-risk ventures. I sat on a jury a year or so back involving a fraud and, in the process, got to look closely into the accounts of two small, ordinary local type pubs. I'm sure the brewery were doing okay, but the landlord and landlady were barely scratching and existence.
If we let these places collapse now, there is no saying the old saw of destructive creation will hold. The playing field has changed - at no previous time have these places been ordered to close their doors. Moving forward, that greatly changes the risk. Even assuming banks will, in future, want to lend to the sector, what appetite for that sort of ramped-up risk will there be?
Pubcos and brewers still get away with murder, the watchdog seems uninterested in enforcing the modest rights given to tenant LLs by the last legislation change, ties are still forcing LLs into bankruptcy.The things many of us hold dear - pubs, restaurants, cafes, music venues, theatres, cinemas, hotels - that form the backbone of what makes our world tolerable and connects us to our friends and the wider community are in peril. Thus far, there's scarce real commitment from the government to saving them.
The entertainment sector was tricky enough and we all know these are high-risk ventures. I sat on a jury a year or so back involving a fraud and, in the process, got to look closely into the accounts of two small, ordinary local type pubs. I'm sure the brewery were doing okay, but the landlord and landlady were barely scratching and existence.
If we let these places collapse now, there is no saying the old saw of destructive creation will hold. The playing field has changed - at no previous time have these places been ordered to close their doors. Moving forward, that greatly changes the risk. Even assuming banks will, in future, want to lend to the sector, what appetite for that sort of ramped-up risk will there be?
SS2. said:
Not really pubs as such, but Brewdog has started working around the clock to make hand-sanitiser.
The plan is to give it away to local charities and communities who need it.
Wonderful gesture.
They should give out The Anarchist free. Any germs that can survive that deserves to wipe out humanity, but at least the recipients will be happy.The plan is to give it away to local charities and communities who need it.
Wonderful gesture.
(Top gesture. Always liked their products).
Digga said:
biggbn said:
The other half comes from delivering training courses, they too are kaiboshed for the foreseeable.
FWIW, is there any way you can set things up to deliver the courses via remote video link?popeyewhite said:
I will be supporting my village pub on Friday night, and every Friday for as long as the law allows. Hygiene and distancing is adhered to, and it would be awful if they go under. They don't really do food so that night be a bonus as long as the regulars attend.
I went to a pub on Tuesday evening - reasonably busy, probably normal for a Tuesday I'd guess. We were supposed to go for a curry afterwards, but found the curry places had already closed by 10pm - so we're trying again this evening. Plan tonight is pub at 7, curry at 8 - and then probably pub again. Advantage to WFH is that it doesn't matter much if you get hammered in the week - no need to be driving first thing in the morning.
Best way to support the village pub atm is for the regulars to contribute the cash they would normally spend each week in the pub directly to them. Almost certainly all pubs will be enforced to close the doors in which case they will not be ordering products to sell. The Government have recognised that pubs need support and are arranging as such, a bonus.
davek_964 said:
I went to a pub on Tuesday evening - reasonably busy, probably normal for a Tuesday I'd guess. We were supposed to go for a curry afterwards, but found the curry places had already closed by 10pm - so we're trying again this evening. Plan tonight is pub at 7, curry at 8 - and then probably pub again.
Advantage to WFH is that it doesn't matter much if you get hammered in the week - no need to be driving first thing in the morning.
We went for our bi-monthy curry on Friday and by 10.15 were the last ones in. Might try your tactic.Advantage to WFH is that it doesn't matter much if you get hammered in the week - no need to be driving first thing in the morning.
popeyewhite said:
I will be supporting my village pub on Friday night, and every Friday for as long as the law allows. Hygiene and distancing is adhered to, and it would be awful if they go under. They don't really do food so that night be a bonus as long as the regulars attend.
I was also in the pub last night - it's very quiet during the week anyway, all the trade is Friday & Saturday. No issues with keeping isolated from other people, we all went down, had burger & chips. The chef there has a transplanted kidney, so is absolutely paranoid about hygiene. He living in the flat above the pub, coming down to the kitchen and lobbing the food through the hatch.They may switch to takeaways, and they have a decent beer garden so beer through the hatch may become a thing.
rxe said:
popeyewhite said:
I will be supporting my village pub on Friday night, and every Friday for as long as the law allows. Hygiene and distancing is adhered to, and it would be awful if they go under. They don't really do food so that night be a bonus as long as the regulars attend.
I was also in the pub last night - it's very quiet during the week anyway, all the trade is Friday & Saturday. No issues with keeping isolated from other people, we all went down, had burger & chips. The chef there has a transplanted kidney, so is absolutely paranoid about hygiene. He living in the flat above the pub, coming down to the kitchen and lobbing the food through the hatch.They may switch to takeaways, and they have a decent beer garden so beer through the hatch may become a thing.
The local village pub where my lad lives are offering take a way pub grub and currently still serving in the pub for as long as permitted.
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