Coronavirus - the killer flu that will wipe us out? (Vol. 4)

[Penelope Stopit]

anonymous said:

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Yet several days ago all the talk was about letting it spread and keep an eye on it

What is going on?

[pghstochaj]

NightDriver said:

That graph is totally misleading. All it really shows for sure is that we are stepping up our testing at a high rate. Which we are, 45% increase yesterday.

It's deaths, not infections. I hope we don't have to test for deaths?

[Stay in Bed Instead]

dudleybloke said:

Anyone running low on food get to Iceland as the two I have looked in have everything stocked apart from bog-roll and eggs.

They shut at 4pm though now.

So people who work 9-5 are stuffed?

[citizensm1th]

In until the death.


"lights up a big fat Cuban cigar" well I think covid will get me before the cancer

[NightDriver]

pghstochaj said:

It's deaths, not infections. I hope we don't have to test for deaths?

Of course you have to test the deaths, how else do you know CV was the cause?

[pghstochaj]

rich12 said:

Realistically then, there is nothing to do other than to wait until we either have a vaccine or everyones had it and hope it doesn't come back?

Not exactly, we can keep the numbers down in order to minimise the rate of infections, either through partial or total lockdowns. Neither option resolves the overall problem until we have herd immunity either after we have all had it (and lived or died) or there is a vaccine. Noting that herd here probably means most of the traveling world, not just the UK.

[lampchair]

Escapegoat said:

DJMC said:

Another 460 deaths in the UK today... one every three minutes.

... from heart disease.

What is the government doing to isolate us from sweets, sticky buns, and Greggs?

And YES, you can catch heart disease from someone else: "Would you like one of my doughnuts?"

Did the markets fall and economy collapse due to the sticky bun? No.

Let's get some perspective please on this teeny weeny problem called CV.

From the guy who literally can't wait for his own father to die, and simply wants the stock market and his pension fund to recover.

Let’s not forget that he didn’t even have the foresight to see this coming to the markets.

why he didn’t put his pension into cash in Jan I don’t know.

Man is blind.

[anonymous-user]

NightDriver said:

Of course you have to test the deaths, how else do you know CV was the cause?

All deaths are identified correctly.

[Escapegoat]

MrBarry123 said:

DJMC said:

Why would I want to when we have such a diverse and wonderful country right here?

Certainly more diverse than your pension fund by the sounds of it.

Don't say that - he claims to give financial advice as a job!

[pghstochaj]

NightDriver said:

Of course you have to test the deaths, how else do you know CV was the cause?

The number of deaths reported by the UK government each day are people known to have been infected that have then died. I don't think the number of deaths from Corona in the UK are increasing because more testing is going ahead.

[rich12]

pghstochaj said:

Not exactly, we can keep the numbers down in order to minimise the rate of infections, either through partial or total lockdowns. Neither option resolves the overall problem until we have herd immunity either after we have all had it (and lived or died) or there is a vaccine. Noting that herd here probably means most of the traveling world, not just the UK.

So we need to hope that what they're saying about mutation is correct then.
Thanks.

[lampchair]

Escapegoat said:

MrBarry123 said:

DJMC said:

Why would I want to when we have such a diverse and wonderful country right here?

Certainly more diverse than your pension fund by the sounds of it.

Don't say that - he claims to give financial advice as a job!

Holy st, really??

[red_slr]

Sitrep from Wuhan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXL9BgHRw08

[DJMC]

pghstochaj said:

Not exactly, we can keep the numbers down in order to minimise the rate of infections, either through partial or total lockdowns. Neither option resolves the overall problem until we have herd immunity either after we have all had it (and lived or died) or there is a vaccine. Noting that herd here probably means most of the traveling world, not just the UK.

Surely then, from what you say, we're all best to catch it asap so we can all recover sooner and get on with our lives (if we live)?

Get it over and done with. See what I mean?

[Legend83]

DJMC said:

Another 460 deaths in the UK today... one every three minutes.

... from heart disease.

What is the government doing to isolate us from sweets, sticky buns, and Greggs?

And YES, you can catch heart disease from someone else: "Would you like one of my doughnuts?"

Did the markets fall and economy collapse due to the sticky bun? No.

Let's get some perspective please on this teeny weeny problem called CV.

Yes you are right people did die of heart disease, and many more will die of other causes not related to CV. The point I think is obvious - we have a sunk level of non-CV ill people who would need critical hospital care anyway, they are being denied this because of the CV outbreak. That operation you need to remove a cancerous mass? Cancelled. High-dependency patient in need of specialist care? Sorry off to a general ward as we need your bed for a CV patient.

The deaths from CV are tragic but the direct/indirect (and frankly unknown) impact on the wider health service is greater still.

Get it?

[Escapegoat]

NightDriver said:

Of course you have to test the deaths, how else do you know CV was the cause?

Stop digging.

Leave the thread for a few days.

Rejoin, after we've all forgotten it was you with the daftness.

(It's the PH way; didn't you read the PH User Manual?)

[sherbertdip]

The reality of social distancing and reduced interaction:

a. No slots for on-line shopping = having to go shopping
b. Hardly any essential foodstuffs = having to make repeated shopping trips
c. Shops are crowded = unable to maintain the recommended 2m distance

Also we live next to a long distance path, walkers are fairly common on nice days especially in summer, now there are many more people, mainly elderly but also family groups, no distancing between each other, at a tight bit I've seen people squeezing past each other, some people either don't care or just don't understand.

[Dr Jekyll]

SpunkyGlory said:

It's mutating massively.

I read something earlier this week that said there are 250 variations of the virus as it's mutated that much. I won't pretend I understood the whole article, but it certainly made the virus sound quite intelligent and a threat for a long time to come.

Not really such a bad sign, when viruses mutate they tend to become less damaging to the patient rather than more.

[Vickers_VC10]

This thread is gold, just when you think you've seen it all a new poster wades in and outs the last ish comment.

Keep it up...

[turbobloke]

Sambucket said:

ElectricSoup said:

rich12 said:

How long would we realistically need to have a total lockdown for this to stop?
If everyone self isolated in their own homes with no contact with anyone who isn't in the house, how long roughly?
3 weeks?

At least. Italy's had 2 weeks, and the haven't started the down curve yet. Hopefully we'll see their situation improving in the next week. They did it too late, and we as a country did not learn form their mistake, an are sleep walking into a similar disaster.

Would it more accurate to say, how long for this to "pause".

Italy has had 3 weeks since the north was 'locked down' as per the link posted not long ago.

It's also more realistic to appreciate that the concept of lockdown in a liberal western democracy is theoretical, it won't work as expected in practice because some people won't adhere to it.