Do you think it is acceptable to send immigrants to Rwanda?
Poll: Do you think it is acceptable to send immigrants to Rwanda?
Total Members Polled: 669
Discussion
bennno said:
Electro1980 said:
bennno said:
We are a soft touch nation, with over generous benefit and healthcare systems for non indigenous people who have never contributed.
Who’d stay in a tented camp in France if they can get a hotel here and 3 hot meals a day.
Why we are taking in Albanian asylum seekers at the same time as BA is pushing Albania as a holiday destination is beyond me, let’s align asylum with fco advice on where is safe to travel.
BA are offering holidays to Saudi Arabia. You go there as a same sex couple and see how it goes. Safe travel does not mean everyone is free from persecution.Who’d stay in a tented camp in France if they can get a hotel here and 3 hot meals a day.
Why we are taking in Albanian asylum seekers at the same time as BA is pushing Albania as a holiday destination is beyond me, let’s align asylum with fco advice on where is safe to travel.
We [rightly] persecute bigamy and pedophiles here, whilst in other countries you can be married to multiple wives and the age of consent is as low as 12.
The fact you compare pedophiles to homosexuality says everything… at least we know what type of person you are.
As I've been banned from posting on the other thread, maybe I can stake my claim to an opinion here?
The Supreme Court has made their judgement based on the Laws of the Land, as it stands, which should put an end to this stupid idea. There is no point in challenging this by the Govt as there is no time left for the necessary procedures to go through, even if there was half a chance the Lords would accept it.
Best left to the next lot, who have all the answers, and accept defeat with as much grace as can be mustered!
The Supreme Court has made their judgement based on the Laws of the Land, as it stands, which should put an end to this stupid idea. There is no point in challenging this by the Govt as there is no time left for the necessary procedures to go through, even if there was half a chance the Lords would accept it.
Best left to the next lot, who have all the answers, and accept defeat with as much grace as can be mustered!
C70R said:
Vanden Saab said:
chemistry said:
C70R said:
If it were ever in doubt as to how right-wing skewed the NP&E cesspit was, the actually public opinion (when polled more representatively) was a minority of 42% in favour of sending immigrants to Rwanda.
https://twitter.com/GyllKing/status/17248944221757...
Excluding don’t knows, more people support (42%) than oppose (39% sending people to Rwanda but there’s not an overall majority, so I’m not sure that poll really tells us anything concrete. https://twitter.com/GyllKing/status/17248944221757...
That said, it certainly doesn’t confirm a majority are opposed to sending people to Rwanda, as your post was seeking to imply.
Electro1980 said:
bennno said:
Electro1980 said:
bennno said:
We are a soft touch nation, with over generous benefit and healthcare systems for non indigenous people who have never contributed.
Who’d stay in a tented camp in France if they can get a hotel here and 3 hot meals a day.
Why we are taking in Albanian asylum seekers at the same time as BA is pushing Albania as a holiday destination is beyond me, let’s align asylum with fco advice on where is safe to travel.
BA are offering holidays to Saudi Arabia. You go there as a same sex couple and see how it goes. Safe travel does not mean everyone is free from persecution.Who’d stay in a tented camp in France if they can get a hotel here and 3 hot meals a day.
Why we are taking in Albanian asylum seekers at the same time as BA is pushing Albania as a holiday destination is beyond me, let’s align asylum with fco advice on where is safe to travel.
We [rightly] persecute bigamy and pedophiles here, whilst in other countries you can be married to multiple wives and the age of consent is as low as 12.
The fact you compare pedophiles to homosexuality says everything… at least we know what type of person you are.
We are pretty liberal here and homosexuality is nothing unusual. Who cares.
Whilst in parts of Asia and Africa you can be polygamous, married or consent aged just 12 which would get you locked up here.
In Uganda homosexuality is not illegal, so why can’t those fleeing countries where it’s illegal go there - why should a sexual preference become a fast pass to a British passport or Green card?
bennno said:
Electro1980 said:
bennno said:
Electro1980 said:
bennno said:
We are a soft touch nation, with over generous benefit and healthcare systems for non indigenous people who have never contributed.
Who’d stay in a tented camp in France if they can get a hotel here and 3 hot meals a day.
Why we are taking in Albanian asylum seekers at the same time as BA is pushing Albania as a holiday destination is beyond me, let’s align asylum with fco advice on where is safe to travel.
BA are offering holidays to Saudi Arabia. You go there as a same sex couple and see how it goes. Safe travel does not mean everyone is free from persecution.Who’d stay in a tented camp in France if they can get a hotel here and 3 hot meals a day.
Why we are taking in Albanian asylum seekers at the same time as BA is pushing Albania as a holiday destination is beyond me, let’s align asylum with fco advice on where is safe to travel.
We [rightly] persecute bigamy and pedophiles here, whilst in other countries you can be married to multiple wives and the age of consent is as low as 12.
The fact you compare pedophiles to homosexuality says everything… at least we know what type of person you are.
We are pretty liberal here and homosexuality is nothing unusual. Who cares.
Whilst in parts of Asia and Africa you can be polygamous, married or consent aged just 12 which would get you locked up here.
In Uganda homosexuality is not illegal, so why can’t those fleeing countries where it’s illegal go there - why should a sexual preference become a fast pass to a British passport or Green card?
Previous said:
I've no issue with helping those fleeing persecution to find saftey, plus support and a place to rebuild their lives.
I belive the current system is abused, and therefore I'm not opposed to helping refugees settle anywhere where they will be safe and without fear - here or another safe country, where that option is available, based upon the good relationships we have with other countries.
As long as Rwanda doesn't pose additional risk to the refugees, then I'm as happy they are supported there as I would be then settling in Rotherham.
Rwanda may offer better employment opportunities too.
That's quite a substantial "as long as" there!I belive the current system is abused, and therefore I'm not opposed to helping refugees settle anywhere where they will be safe and without fear - here or another safe country, where that option is available, based upon the good relationships we have with other countries.
As long as Rwanda doesn't pose additional risk to the refugees, then I'm as happy they are supported there as I would be then settling in Rotherham.
Rwanda may offer better employment opportunities too.
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2022/country-chap...
DaveTheRave87 said:
I think the purpose of the Rwanda plan isn't to send anyone there, it's to make those who wish to arrive illegal think that they might end up in Rwanda.
It's more of a deterrent than an actual immigration solution.
You are absolutely correct. But lets not ruin a good sIt's more of a deterrent than an actual immigration solution.
tstorm …swisstoni said:
DaveTheRave87 said:
I think the purpose of the Rwanda plan isn't to send anyone there, it's to make those who wish to arrive illegal think that they might end up in Rwanda.
It's more of a deterrent than an actual immigration solution.
a It's more of a deterrent than an actual immigration solution.
You are absolutely correct. But lets not ruin a good s
tstorm …StevieBee said:
Absolutely not.
It's one rung above treating human beings like livestock. Has overtones reminiscent of slavery and not something a civil society nation like the UK should even be thinking about let alone trying to do.
There are solutions to be found at the point of origin, along the route of migration and on the north French coast. These, however, all require a level of intellect, compassion, partnership working with other nations and other virtues which our current government seems to be devoid of.
My view too. It's one rung above treating human beings like livestock. Has overtones reminiscent of slavery and not something a civil society nation like the UK should even be thinking about let alone trying to do.
There are solutions to be found at the point of origin, along the route of migration and on the north French coast. These, however, all require a level of intellect, compassion, partnership working with other nations and other virtues which our current government seems to be devoid of.
swisstoni said:
DaveTheRave87 said:
I think the purpose of the Rwanda plan isn't to send anyone there, it's to make those who wish to arrive illegal think that they might end up in Rwanda.
It's more of a deterrent than an actual immigration solution.
You are absolutely correct. But lets not ruin a good sIt's more of a deterrent than an actual immigration solution.
tstorm …Zarco said:
StevieBee said:
Absolutely not.
It's one rung above treating human beings like livestock. Has overtones reminiscent of slavery and not something a civil society nation like the UK should even be thinking about let alone trying to do.
There are solutions to be found at the point of origin, along the route of migration and on the north French coast. These, however, all require a level of intellect, compassion, partnership working with other nations and other virtues which our current government seems to be devoid of.
My view too. It's one rung above treating human beings like livestock. Has overtones reminiscent of slavery and not something a civil society nation like the UK should even be thinking about let alone trying to do.
There are solutions to be found at the point of origin, along the route of migration and on the north French coast. These, however, all require a level of intellect, compassion, partnership working with other nations and other virtues which our current government seems to be devoid of.
If France did the same and accepted those that still tried to come back into their country it would stop over night. Blaming the UK for something that is not within their power to stop while ignoring that France could stop it overnight is... strange
popeyewhite said:
Yes Rwanda or somewhere similar is the only fix for the illegal immigrant crisis. If they are safe there I really don't see the problem. Lots of lovely sunshine and a reasonable healthcare system. As most are young men they could even do some work whilst enjoying their stay.
The UK Supreme Court disagrees with you. What do you know that they don’t?If it’s as nice as you say, how is it a deterrent?
popeyewhite said:
Yes Rwanda or somewhere similar is the only fix for the illegal immigrant crisis. If they are safe there I really don't see the problem. Lots of lovely sunshine and a reasonable healthcare system. As most are young men they could even do some work whilst enjoying their stay.
Have you a list of countries that are "somewhat similar" to Rwanda?chrispmartha said:
popeyewhite said:
Yes Rwanda or somewhere similar is the only fix for the illegal immigrant crisis. If they are safe there I really don't see the problem. Lots of lovely sunshine and a reasonable healthcare system. As most are young men they could even do some work whilst enjoying their stay.
The UK Supreme Court disagrees with you. What do you know that they don’t?If it’s as nice as you say, how is it a deterrent?
Eric Mc said:
popeyewhite said:
Yes Rwanda or somewhere similar is the only fix for the illegal immigrant crisis. If they are safe there I really don't see the problem. Lots of lovely sunshine and a reasonable healthcare system. As most are young men they could even do some work whilst enjoying their stay.
Have you a list of countries that are "somewhat similar" to Rwanda?popeyewhite said:
chrispmartha said:
popeyewhite said:
Yes Rwanda or somewhere similar is the only fix for the illegal immigrant crisis. If they are safe there I really don't see the problem. Lots of lovely sunshine and a reasonable healthcare system. As most are young men they could even do some work whilst enjoying their stay.
The UK Supreme Court disagrees with you. What do you know that they don’t?If it’s as nice as you say, how is it a deterrent?
Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff