The British should bail out the Russians apparently.

[Nadyenka]

cardigankid said:

Nadyenka said:

beanbag said:

Vanya said:

Nadyenka said:

beanbag said:

funding the Russian bh wife.


For this reason I have a lot of contempt for them in general. Perhaps this is a sweeping statement to make but I accept there is the exception to this rule and there are a lot of good Russian business persons out there. I've just yet to meet them.

It is stupid statement

I completely agree Nadyenka, quite offensive... no wait... very offensive.

Oh well. No apologies for this. Even my Russian friends wholeheartedly agree....

I do not think Russian friends that you have would agree and let you insult their wifes and daughters and friends.this is what make me angry.I do not care about how you think of Business person.

Edited by Nadyenka on Wednesday 25th February 02:46

You're not for real, surely?

Edited by cardigankid on Wednesday 25th February 18:37

I do not care what he think of Business persons.It make me angry about how he talk about his wife.We are not this way.

[beanbag]

Nadyenka said:

cardigankid said:

Nadyenka said:

beanbag said:

Vanya said:

Nadyenka said:

beanbag said:

funding the Russian bh wife.


For this reason I have a lot of contempt for them in general. Perhaps this is a sweeping statement to make but I accept there is the exception to this rule and there are a lot of good Russian business persons out there. I've just yet to meet them.

It is stupid statement

I completely agree Nadyenka, quite offensive... no wait... very offensive.

Oh well. No apologies for this. Even my Russian friends wholeheartedly agree....

I do not think Russian friends that you have would agree and let you insult their wifes and daughters and friends.this is what make me angry.I do not care about how you think of Business person.

Edited by Nadyenka on Wednesday 25th February 02:46

You're not for real, surely?

Edited by cardigankid on Wednesday 25th February 18:37

I do not care what he think of Business persons.It make me angry about how he talk about his wife.We are not this way.

I'm presuming you are Russian. I didn't say all of you. But a lot of wives and wealthy Russian women are exactly like this.....

They have an awful reputation in Vienna for being "toxic wives" or arrogant buggers. That's just the way it is and my Russian buddies do agree with this.

In fact from personal experience, the first person I started seeing in Vienna was a Russian. She was from a town near the Belarussian border (can't remember the name), but she was called Oxana. Stunning girl and she just assumed I had money I suppose.

The moment I told her I wanted to stay in for the weekend as I was skint until pay-day she left me and called me a "pauper". I'm hardly that, but it proves my point and at the time the little suka left me speechless.

I'm now engaged to a much more down-to-earth Bulgarian.

[Nadyenka]

beanbag said:

Nadyenka said:

cardigankid said:

Nadyenka said:

beanbag said:

Vanya said:

Nadyenka said:

beanbag said:

funding the Russian bh wife.


For this reason I have a lot of contempt for them in general. Perhaps this is a sweeping statement to make but I accept there is the exception to this rule and there are a lot of good Russian business persons out there. I've just yet to meet them.

It is stupid statement

I completely agree Nadyenka, quite offensive... no wait... very offensive.

Oh well. No apologies for this. Even my Russian friends wholeheartedly agree....

I do not think Russian friends that you have would agree and let you insult their wifes and daughters and friends.this is what make me angry.I do not care about how you think of Business person.

Edited by Nadyenka on Wednesday 25th February 02:46

You're not for real, surely?

Edited by cardigankid on Wednesday 25th February 18:37

I do not care what he think of Business persons.It make me angry about how he talk about his wife.We are not this way.

I'm presuming you are Russian. I didn't say all of you. But a lot of wives and wealthy Russian women are exactly like this.....

They have an awful reputation in Vienna for being "toxic wives" or arrogant buggers. That's just the way it is and my Russian buddies do agree with this.

In fact from personal experience, the first person I started seeing in Vienna was a Russian. She was from a town near the Belarussian border (can't remember the name), but she was called Oxana. Stunning girl and she just assumed I had money I suppose.

The moment I told her I wanted to stay in for the weekend as I was skint until pay-day she left me and called me a "pauper". I'm hardly that, but it proves my point and at the time the little suka left me speechless.

I'm now engaged to a much more down-to-earth Bulgarian.

I think the Russian women in Vienna have give us all a bad name then .I am much more happy to be with a man that is fun and make me happy.It is more important to me than how much money he earn.

[beanbag]

Nadyenka said:

beanbag said:

Nadyenka said:

cardigankid said:

Nadyenka said:

beanbag said:

Vanya said:

Nadyenka said:

beanbag said:

funding the Russian bh wife.


For this reason I have a lot of contempt for them in general. Perhaps this is a sweeping statement to make but I accept there is the exception to this rule and there are a lot of good Russian business persons out there. I've just yet to meet them.

It is stupid statement

I completely agree Nadyenka, quite offensive... no wait... very offensive.

Oh well. No apologies for this. Even my Russian friends wholeheartedly agree....

I do not think Russian friends that you have would agree and let you insult their wifes and daughters and friends.this is what make me angry.I do not care about how you think of Business person.

Edited by Nadyenka on Wednesday 25th February 02:46

You're not for real, surely?

Edited by cardigankid on Wednesday 25th February 18:37

I do not care what he think of Business persons.It make me angry about how he talk about his wife.We are not this way.

I'm presuming you are Russian. I didn't say all of you. But a lot of wives and wealthy Russian women are exactly like this.....

They have an awful reputation in Vienna for being "toxic wives" or arrogant buggers. That's just the way it is and my Russian buddies do agree with this.

In fact from personal experience, the first person I started seeing in Vienna was a Russian. She was from a town near the Belarussian border (can't remember the name), but she was called Oxana. Stunning girl and she just assumed I had money I suppose.

The moment I told her I wanted to stay in for the weekend as I was skint until pay-day she left me and called me a "pauper". I'm hardly that, but it proves my point and at the time the little suka left me speechless.

I'm now engaged to a much more down-to-earth Bulgarian.

I think the Russian women in Vienna have give us all a bad name then .I am much more happy to be with a man that is fun and make me happy.It is more important to me than how much money he earn.

Sorry to hear that. Perhaps when I finally visit my friends in Moscow my impression will change but it really is like that in Vienna.

I do have some Russian friends who are girls and they are lovely as friends, but I also know the way they treat their blokes as total sugar-daddies.

It makes me laugh just looking at it, but I would never date a girl like that again. (Although like I said they are stunning!!!)

[Vanya]

beanbag said:

Sorry to hear that. Perhaps when I finally visit my friends in Moscow my impression will change but it really is like that in Vienna.

I do have some Russian friends who are girls and they are lovely as friends, but I also know the way they treat their blokes as total sugar-daddies.

It makes me laugh just looking at it, but I would never date a girl like that again. (Although like I said they are stunning!!!)

May I suggest that you experience more of the Russian general population as opposed to a small "expatted" microcosm before spouting such ignorant observations?
I lived in Russia for nearly 7 years and my work took to many regions in that time though most of my time was spent in Moscow.
Yes there are the types of which you speak but they in no way, by any stretch of the imagine, represent the majority. The largest majority are far more normal and unassuming.
In the main, the normal "joe" on the street if you will, are a humble yet strong people and can demonstrate such kindness and hospitatlity that takes your breath away.
That's my limited experience of the Russian general population.
Are there not types of your species that make you less than proud, your tone suggests that you are one that has a superiority above the rest of us and that "your" people are better than everyone else, or at least better than Russians?
You are not an authority on Russian people, their manner or their culture, contrary to your uninformed postings.
Just because you've encountered a handful of Russians you know all Russians???!!!

If they let you passed passport control, I wouldn't, and you really want to mix with normal Russians, I defy you to not arrive to a different view of these people.
Oh yeah, be careful, you're Oxana experience... if you want to wet your wick with a girl that's so gorgeous she wouldn't even see you as human if she was of another nationality, what do you expect?
You got what you wanted, presumably. If anything it looks like you were the one that failed to deliver if you couldn't even afford to take her to the local canteen #17 or Kartoshka.

I'm done here.

[Nadyenka]

I think it is not fair that he say this also but it is ok.I hope he does change his opinion.

[beanbag]

Vanya said:

beanbag said:

Sorry to hear that. Perhaps when I finally visit my friends in Moscow my impression will change but it really is like that in Vienna.

I do have some Russian friends who are girls and they are lovely as friends, but I also know the way they treat their blokes as total sugar-daddies.

It makes me laugh just looking at it, but I would never date a girl like that again. (Although like I said they are stunning!!!)

May I suggest that you experience more of the Russian general population as opposed to a small "expatted" microcosm before spouting such ignorant observations?
I lived in Russia for nearly 7 years and my work took to many regions in that time though most of my time was spent in Moscow.
Yes there are the types of which you speak but they in no way, by any stretch of the imagine, represent the majority. The largest majority are far more normal and unassuming.
In the main, the normal "joe" on the street if you will, are a humble yet strong people and can demonstrate such kindness and hospitatlity that takes your breath away.
That's my limited experience of the Russian general population.
Are there not types of your species that make you less than proud, your tone suggests that you are one that has a superiority above the rest of us and that "your" people are better than everyone else, or at least better than Russians?
You are not an authority on Russian people, their manner or their culture, contrary to your uninformed postings.
Just because you've encountered a handful of Russians you know all Russians???!!!

If they let you passed passport control, I wouldn't, and you really want to mix with normal Russians, I defy you to not arrive to a different view of these people.
Oh yeah, be careful, you're Oxana experience... if you want to wet your wick with a girl that's so gorgeous she wouldn't even see you as human if she was of another nationality, what do you expect?
You got what you wanted, presumably. If anything it looks like you were the one that failed to deliver if you couldn't even afford to take her to the local canteen #17 or Kartoshka.

I'm done here.

An angry feminist. Wonderful.

Supposedly wanting to "wet my wick" was a wonderful one and your subsequent statement just reinforces my view on a lot of Eastern women.

I also enjoyed your "superiority" statements. I'm guessing you are referring to my corruptions statistics? I'm just stating facts. I don't trust Russian businesses. Nor do I trust Bulgarian businesses. There is a very good reason for these countries having such massive corruption and it's for good reason lesser corrupt Western countries don't trust them.

I'd like to additionally point out your view on men is quite vile and misconstrued also. I'm not one for "wetting my wick" with the first person I meet so goodness know where you managed to get that suggestion from. (Perhaps this is your limited experience with men??) With that in mind; "You are not an authority on men, their ways or mannerisms".....

I'd also like to point out that there are a great many Russians in Vienna. They seem to like it here but I'll be honest that the Russians that do come are invariably very wealthy so perhaps your "average Joe" isn't the sort of person I meet every day. They're also very happy to suggest that Russians are very arrogant people. Again perhaps this is the "Viennese" sort.

I think they are a very fun and very kind people so long as you don't get too personal with them and I spent a lot of time during Euro 2008 hanging out with them and supporting them so it's hardly a handful I've spent time with.

With regards to your hospitality statement, I've yet to see that. I was asked to leave a Russian karaoke bar because I was not Russian and only Russians were allowed to be there. This was regardless of the fact that I was in the company of five Russian friends. Perhaps this is different in Russia.

Either way, I'd like to just point out that you spouted nothing but a copious amount of bullst by placing words in my mouth (so to speak), and I suggest you go away and bury your head in the sand where we can't see it again.

Edited by beanbag on Thursday 26th February 13:10

Edited by beanbag on Thursday 26th February 13:12

[beanbag]

Nadyenka said:

I think it is not fair that he say this also but it is ok.I hope he does change his opinion.

I've met a great many Russian people however unfortunately not in Russia. A few of them are very good friends of mine, and they agree with what I am saying. I've shown them this thread!

However I'm 100% certainly Russians are not all like this. I've repeated this many times; However I'd like to reinforce that Viennese Russians are certainly as I describe them.

I'm speaking totally from experience and not from stereotypes......

[speedy_thrills]

It's the pointlessness of the second half of this thread that gets me. How boring are your lives at the moment?

[beanbag]

speedy_thrills said:

It's the pointlessness of the second half of this thread that gets me. How boring are your lives at the moment?

Very.

Roll on skiing this weekend!

[emicen]

beanbag said:

Vanya said:

beanbag said:

Sorry to hear that. Perhaps when I finally visit my friends in Moscow my impression will change but it really is like that in Vienna.

I do have some Russian friends who are girls and they are lovely as friends, but I also know the way they treat their blokes as total sugar-daddies.

It makes me laugh just looking at it, but I would never date a girl like that again. (Although like I said they are stunning!!!)

May I suggest that you experience more of the Russian general population as opposed to a small "expatted" microcosm before spouting such ignorant observations?
I lived in Russia for nearly 7 years and my work took to many regions in that time though most of my time was spent in Moscow.
Yes there are the types of which you speak but they in no way, by any stretch of the imagine, represent the majority. The largest majority are far more normal and unassuming.
In the main, the normal "joe" on the street if you will, are a humble yet strong people and can demonstrate such kindness and hospitatlity that takes your breath away.
That's my limited experience of the Russian general population.
Are there not types of your species that make you less than proud, your tone suggests that you are one that has a superiority above the rest of us and that "your" people are better than everyone else, or at least better than Russians?
You are not an authority on Russian people, their manner or their culture, contrary to your uninformed postings.
Just because you've encountered a handful of Russians you know all Russians???!!!

If they let you passed passport control, I wouldn't, and you really want to mix with normal Russians, I defy you to not arrive to a different view of these people.
Oh yeah, be careful, you're Oxana experience... if you want to wet your wick with a girl that's so gorgeous she wouldn't even see you as human if she was of another nationality, what do you expect?
You got what you wanted, presumably. If anything it looks like you were the one that failed to deliver if you couldn't even afford to take her to the local canteen #17 or Kartoshka.

I'm done here.

A angry feminist. Wonderful.

Supposedly wanting to "wet my wick" was a wonderful one and your subsequent statement just reinforces my view on a lot of Eastern women.

I also enjoyed your "superiority" statements. I'm guessing you are referring to my corruptions statistics? I'm just stating facts. I don't trust Russian businesses. Nor do I trust Bulgarian businesses. There is a very good reason for these countries having such massive corruption and it's for good reason lesser corrupt Western countries don't trust them.

I'd like to additionally point out your view on men is quite vile and misconstrued also. I'm not one for "wetting my wick" with the first person I meet so goodness know where you managed to get that suggestion from. (Perhaps this is your limited experience with men??) With that in mind; "You are not an authority on men, their ways or mannerisms".....

I'd also like to point out that there are a great many Russians in Vienna. They seem to like it here but I'll be honest that the Russians that do come are invariably very wealthy so perhaps your "average Joe" isn't the sort of person I meet every day. They're also very happy to suggest that Russians are very arrogant people. Again perhaps this is the "Viennese" sort.

I think they are a very fun and very kind people so long as you don't get too personal with them and I spent a lot of time during Euro 2008 hanging out with them and supporting them so it's hardly a handful I've spent time with.

With regards to your hospitality statement, I've yet to see that. I was asked to leave a Russian karaoke bar because I was not Russian and only Russians were allowed to be there. This was regardless of the fact that I was in the company of five Russian friends. Perhaps this is different in Russia.

Either way, I'd like to just point out that you spouted nothing a copious quantity of bullst by placing words in my mouth (so to speak), and suggest you go away and bury your head in the sand where we can't see it again.

Had the pleasure of hanging out with a couple of russian millionairesses whilst skiing recently.

Whilst stunning, both reminded me far too much of my ex (the one that ended a 4yr relationship to go hump an ex-footballer ).

I forget, "that little suka", suka = bh or we?

[fluffyducky]

I don't mean to interrupt the discussion regarding the virtues of the Russian fairer sex and all but take a butchers at this:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/SaveLDV/

Extract from LDV email recieved today at our place:

"We are clearly now at a critical point in lobbying the govermnent for assistance to secure the future of LDV.

There is a serious investor at the table who the government have agreed is credible and intent on investing to give LDV an exciting future.
We simply now need to convince the government to provide the reduced short term bridging loan to allow the investment process to be completed and we can secure thousands of British jobs in the industry. We therefore need to demonstrate to the goverment that this small loan (in comparison to the bail-out for the banks) is in the best interests of the country and that it is what taxpayers want to see...

...We have an E petition open on the No 10 website and we need to gather support quickly this week.

The link is: http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/SaveLDV/ "

[beanbag]

fluffyducky said:

I don't mean to interrupt the discussion regarding the virtues of the Russian fairer sex and all but take a butchers at this:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/SaveLDV/

Extract from LDV email recieved today at our place:

"We are clearly now at a critical point in lobbying the govermnent for assistance to secure the future of LDV.

There is a serious investor at the table who the government have agreed is credible and intent on investing to give LDV an exciting future.
We simply now need to convince the government to provide the reduced short term bridging loan to allow the investment process to be completed and we can secure thousands of British jobs in the industry. We therefore need to demonstrate to the goverment that this small loan (in comparison to the bail-out for the banks) is in the best interests of the country and that it is what taxpayers want to see...

...We have an E petition open on the No 10 website and we need to gather support quickly this week.

The link is: http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/SaveLDV/ "

Not being funny, but the business failed because nobody was buying the goods. Why on earth should the taxpayer fund a business again that will ultimately fail within the UK. The only way to bring down the costs and avoid the sodding unions would be to outsource.

LDV provides antiquated designs and technologies that don't even come close to Ford and it's unfortunately no surprise they failed in this economic climate.

This is one petition that I won't sign personally. There are much more viable businesses out there that require more government attention.

[Ozzie Osmond]

Agreed. See page 1.

Ozzie Osmond said:

In the global truck market LDV is about as relevant as the new Longbridge MGF in the world of sports cars. There is absolutely no point whatsoever propping it up with your money, my money or anyone else's money.