Who complained to the ASA about the global warming advert?
Poll: Who complained to the ASA about the global warming advert?
Total Members Polled: 187
Discussion
s.m.h. said:
TB quoted a while back on a guy that to me summed it up perfectly. It was along the lines that the world is not in danger - just mankind. This spinning lump of rock will be here for millions of years, whether man is on it or not!!
IIRC, Ian Stewart, the guy from "Earth the power of the planet" (that I know many PHers enjoyed very much 
) said more or less exactly that at the end of the last episode. Nice there is something that both sides of the debate can agree on then!s.m.h. said:
So, what happens in 10 years time when we are sitting in the dark as the nuclear power stations wont have been finished (or indeed ordered), those f
king green idiots have forced the closing of coal stations and the whole country ends up in the dark age. Silly expensive wind farms are standing still as the companies that build them go bankrupt due to no gov. funding and start failing...Yup the climate debate will be old news, as there will be feck all power and the world will continue warming and cooling just as it always has.
At least we'll be safe from invasion as the country would be worthless king green idiots have forced the closing of coal stations and the whole country ends up in the dark age. Silly expensive wind farms are standing still as the companies that build them go bankrupt due to no gov. funding and start failing...Yup the climate debate will be old news, as there will be feck all power and the world will continue warming and cooling just as it always has. 
ludo said:
ETA: Also IIRC during the last ice age, sea levels were much lower than today because of the water locked away in the ice sheet, and the English channel was almost dry, in which case it wouldn't be surprising to find a stoneage settlement in the English channel.
And then those crazy Stone Age guys discovered the internal combustion engine which eventually melted the ice cap that at one time extended as far south as Finchley?Edited to add the 'F' in 'inchley'.
Edited by Blib on Saturday 17th October 17:28
Blib said:
ludo said:
ETA: Also IIRC during the last ice age, sea levels were much lower than today because of the water locked away in the ice sheet, and the English channel was almost dry, in which case it wouldn't be surprising to find a stoneage settlement in the English channel.
And then those crazy Stone Age guys discovered the internal combustion engine which eventually melted the ice cap that at one time extended as far south as inchley?ludo said:
Blib said:
ludo said:
ETA: Also IIRC during the last ice age, sea levels were much lower than today because of the water locked away in the ice sheet, and the English channel was almost dry, in which case it wouldn't be surprising to find a stoneage settlement in the English channel.
And then those crazy Stone Age guys discovered the internal combustion engine which eventually melted the ice cap that at one time extended as far south as inchley?
ETA: I should have added that you and I could go into a forest with a lighted fag, drop it and see 'in your face evidence' of cigarettes causing forest fires.
Ludo, care to show us all how man made CO2 causes Climate Change?
Blimey, my spooling.
Edited by Blib on Saturday 17th October 17:44
Edited by Blib on Saturday 17th October 17:45
ludo said:
s.m.h. said:
TB quoted a while back on a guy that to me summed it up perfectly. It was along the lines that the world is not in danger - just mankind. This spinning lump of rock will be here for millions of years, whether man is on it or not!!
IIRC, Ian Stewart, the guy from "Earth the power of the planet" (that I know many PHers enjoyed very much ) said more or less exactly that at the end of the last episode. Nice there is something that both sides of the debate can agree on then!I was a bit pissed when I did mine so it's short and doesn't make a lot of sense...
My complaint said:
The advert is a load of unscientific bobbins, and uses the most ludicrous piece of mawkish 'think of the children' nonsense to try and morally blackmail viewers into thinking everything will be okay if only they switched the TV off at night. The jury is still out on whether man has any influence on climate change, so this alarmist flimflam is definitely jumping the gun.
ludo said:
Blib said:
ludo said:
ETA: Also IIRC during the last ice age, sea levels were much lower than today because of the water locked away in the ice sheet, and the English channel was almost dry, in which case it wouldn't be surprising to find a stoneage settlement in the English channel.
And then those crazy Stone Age guys discovered the internal combustion engine which eventually melted the ice cap that at one time extended as far south as inchley?Blib said:
Ludo, care to show us all how mad made CO2 causes Climate Change?
this is the basic line of reasoning (as I have pointed out before), you can always investigate the arguments in more detail if you are really interested, but there is no point in discussing it on a forum where the idea that man isn't responsible for the rise in CO2 levels is not accepted, so email me if you have any questions.http://www.skepticalscience.com/empirical-evidence...
groucho said:
ludo said:
s.m.h. said:
TB quoted a while back on a guy that to me summed it up perfectly. It was along the lines that the world is not in danger - just mankind. This spinning lump of rock will be here for millions of years, whether man is on it or not!!
IIRC, Ian Stewart, the guy from "Earth the power of the planet" (that I know many PHers enjoyed very much ) said more or less exactly that at the end of the last episode. Nice there is something that both sides of the debate can agree on then!Blib said:
ludo said:
Blib said:
ludo said:
ETA: Also IIRC during the last ice age, sea levels were much lower than today because of the water locked away in the ice sheet, and the English channel was almost dry, in which case it wouldn't be surprising to find a stoneage settlement in the English channel.
And then those crazy Stone Age guys discovered the internal combustion engine which eventually melted the ice cap that at one time extended as far south as inchley?ludo said:
Blib said:
Ludo, care to show us all how mad made CO2 causes Climate Change?
this is the basic line of reasoning (as I have pointed out before), you can always investigate the arguments in more detail if you are really interested, but there is no point in discussing it on a forum where the idea that man isn't responsible for the rise in CO2 levels is not accepted, so email me if you have any questions.http://www.skepticalscience.com/empirical-evidence...
Ludo, do you remember yesterday when you wasted a whole day with s2art?
Read the question that I've posted. Not the one you believe that I've posted.Thank you.
Blib said:
ludo said:
Blib said:
Ludo, care to show us all how mad made CO2 causes Climate Change?
this is the basic line of reasoning (as I have pointed out before), you can always investigate the arguments in more detail if you are really interested, but there is no point in discussing it on a forum where the idea that man isn't responsible for the rise in CO2 levels is not accepted, so email me if you have any questions.http://www.skepticalscience.com/empirical-evidence...
Ludo, do you remember yesterday when you wasted a whole day with s2art?
Read the question that I've posted. Not the one you believe that I've posted.Thank you.
At this point, I don't give a rat's arse anymore about whether MMGW is real. Experience has taught me that whenever groups of people don't bother with reasoning anymore and start ramming a message home by emotionally blackmailing the great unwashed through their children, there are always strong ulterior motives at work.
This piece of government propaganda only differs from the works of Messrs. Goebbels and associates in that it's less sophisticated.
If there is a case for the battle against MMGW, they've just lost me.
This piece of government propaganda only differs from the works of Messrs. Goebbels and associates in that it's less sophisticated.
If there is a case for the battle against MMGW, they've just lost me.
Edited by 900T-R on Saturday 17th October 18:21
OK. I still think it's not a bad advert. nicely animated, well filmed, not offensive. As for the misleading bit then it could have been improved by saying "some scientists" instead of just "scientists".
As to some posters' views about it being one sided - possibly - but it's a short advert on the importance of reducing CO2 emmisions, not an intellectual debate on whether CO2 is as much of a threat as say deforestation of the rain forests.
And seriously, is there one of you who believes that increased levels of CO2 in the atmosphere is actually a good thing? The only bone of contention is how much of a bad thing it is.
As to some posters' views about it being one sided - possibly - but it's a short advert on the importance of reducing CO2 emmisions, not an intellectual debate on whether CO2 is as much of a threat as say deforestation of the rain forests.
And seriously, is there one of you who believes that increased levels of CO2 in the atmosphere is actually a good thing? The only bone of contention is how much of a bad thing it is.
Lodged mine. This is the YEAR's biggest piss boiler.
The advertisement is yet another massive waste by Government of taxpayers money. I object in the strongest possible terms to myself and my young children being exposed to such an utterly HORRIFIC tale at any time of day, never mind the morning. The advertisement, such as it was, represents only one side of the CO2 argument, an argument which is FAR from decided. I object to this attempt by Government to brainwash me, and frighten my children into believing a thing which has dark, ulterior motives behind it.
The advertisement is yet another massive waste by Government of taxpayers money. I object in the strongest possible terms to myself and my young children being exposed to such an utterly HORRIFIC tale at any time of day, never mind the morning. The advertisement, such as it was, represents only one side of the CO2 argument, an argument which is FAR from decided. I object to this attempt by Government to brainwash me, and frighten my children into believing a thing which has dark, ulterior motives behind it.
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