The BIG Freeeeze

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fastfreddy

8,577 posts

239 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
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"I'd just like to say, we are doing everything we can..."

nonegreen

7,803 posts

272 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
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This is a very special kind of winter. It uniquely supplies undrivable treacherous condition for people in the public sector. Yet private sector workers are able to travel to and from work with only slight delays and a few mishaps. It has managed to supply snow to individual driveways with varying coefficients of friction depending on the ownership of the BMW ie Public or private sector. Gender specific delivery of icy conditions is also prominant with female school teachers expecting the schools to remain closed until they feel like getting out from under their nice duvets.

The Government controlled media have too got lost in their inability to realise that a nation nearly a trillion pounds in debt perhaps ought to be knuckelling down to some work yet it puts the future of the labour party and the climate lies perpetrated by 5th form sciuntists in the pay of drug addicted prostitute using morally bankrupt totally bent civil servants first.

D-Angle

4,468 posts

244 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
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I bet Gordon is cursing his luck right now - if he had called an election when everyone asked him to, we would have been trying to get to the polls through all this! hehe

nelly1

5,631 posts

233 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
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nonegreen said:
...sciuntists...
hehe

HOGEPH

5,249 posts

188 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
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nelly1 said:
nonegreen said:
...sciuntists...
hehe
Are they from Sciunthorpe?

groucho

12,134 posts

248 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
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turbobloke said:
Can't a newspaper put that on the front page. Caught red handed, lieing, springs to mind.

Elroy Blue

8,692 posts

194 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
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nonegreen said:
This is a very special kind of winter. It uniquely supplies undrivable treacherous condition for people in the public sector. Yet private sector workers are able to travel to and from work with only slight delays and a few mishaps.
FFS..Get a life!

All those Police, nurses, fireman, ambulance workers haven't levitated themselves into work. There are plenty of PRIVATE companies closed because their employees can't get into work.

But hey...why let facts get in the way of ill informed drivel!

turbobloke

104,407 posts

262 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
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Elroy Blue said:
nonegreen said:
This is a very special kind of winter. It uniquely supplies undrivable treacherous condition for people in the public sector. Yet private sector workers are able to travel to and from work with only slight delays and a few mishaps.
FFS..Get a life!

All those Police, nurses, fireman, ambulance workers haven't levitated themselves into work. There are plenty of PRIVATE companies closed because their employees can't get into work.

But hey...why let facts get in the way of ill informed drivel!
How about not letting reasoned debate get in the way when insults will do?

It's not drivel btw.

Public sector workers have enjoyed pay rises during the recession that are nearly three times those experienced in the private sector:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/6827619/Tri...

They must have been rewarded for taking more sick leave:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2585711/Pub...
staff in town halls, health services, schools and other government-funded bodies took about 35 per cent more time off than employees in private companies, who each missed about seven days

With a bonus for not getting in to work when others clearly can:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/...
Snow Exposes the Public Sector Instinct to Give Up

How about providing evidence for your claims before resorting to insults? Maybe, if you looked first before posting, you'd have nothing to post smile

TankRizzo

7,320 posts

195 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
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I work for a large IT firm on a customer Public Sector site. Quite a few of us managed to get in, either walking locally or driving from a fair few miles away.

Our customers however have nearly all stayed at home.

turbobloke

104,407 posts

262 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
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TankRizzo said:
I work for a large IT firm on a customer Public Sector site. Quite a few of us managed to get in, either walking locally or driving from a fair few miles away.

Our customers however have nearly all stayed at home.
They have no contractual duty of loyalty to fulfil work agreements with your employer, however its employees do smile

Jasandjules

70,012 posts

231 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
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With the low solar activity this is going to get worse next winter I think (from my basic understanding) and it may well be far, far worse over the coming years. So another one of these next year will be AGW blown away...

The Hypno-Toad

12,378 posts

207 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
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TankRizzo said:
I work for a large IT firm on a customer Public Sector site. Quite a few of us managed to get in, either walking locally or driving from a fair few miles away.

Our customers however have nearly all stayed at home.
I've three phone numbers to call involving Council Tax (paying not complaining) and despite a number of attempts to reach them during the day yesterday, no reply to any of them.





Edited by The Hypno-Toad on Saturday 9th January 13:05

Elroy Blue

8,692 posts

194 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
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There'll be a post soon saying that the snow itself is the fault of public sector workers! Apparently we're the cause of all the other doom in the country.

My wife works in the Public sector. She went to work at 5.30am this morning. She walked a over a mile to where she has had to leave her car. She's driving around all the treacherous lanes in her own, little car caring for the elderly. So frankly, I will continue to challenge your ill informed, 'I'm superior' drivel!

odyssey2200

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18,650 posts

211 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
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My OH is a Civil Servant and was told not to come to work by her boss on Wednesday.

The car park ot the office is down a steepish slope and if it gets Icy the management company will not come on site to grit it due to Heath & Safety issues.


You couldn't make it uprolleyes

She did go to work on Thursday though

The Hypno-Toad

12,378 posts

207 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
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I wouldn't have a go at any member of public sector who does a job that benefits people. Everyone on here would surely agree that in conditions such as these they do an amazing job. As ever our nurses, fireman and police deserve our praise in times like these which will no doubt shortly be announced as a national emergency. However when you have experiences like mine of my local council;

1.) The lack of support when myself and my neighbours endured when we had a resident who insisted on having ridiculously noisy parties on a regular basis.
2.) The lovely framed certificate that they have in the council offices to reward monthly, the person who gave the best customer service.
3.) The fantastic signs at junctions urging me to cut my engine to stop MMGW.
4.) The wonderful new logo for the council commissioned in middle of a recession at a cost of £40000. This cost, of course, doesn't include replacing all the invoices, statements, council documents, etc.
5.) The fact that large quanties of the road surface on one of the two roads into my village is peeling away like the skin of an orange but instead of repairing it they putting in speed bumps on the other road.
6.) The fact that if you do want to talk to anyone about council tax face to face, you have a two hour window to do it in and you can't even pay any money in at the local office now.

I'd certainly say that my view of some aspects of the public sector has been lowered.

nonegreen

7,803 posts

272 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
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Elroy Blue said:
nonegreen said:
This is a very special kind of winter. It uniquely supplies undrivable treacherous condition for people in the public sector. Yet private sector workers are able to travel to and from work with only slight delays and a few mishaps.
FFS..Get a life!

All those Police, nurses, fireman, ambulance workers haven't levitated themselves into work. There are plenty of PRIVATE companies closed because their employees can't get into work.

But hey...why let facts get in the way of ill informed drivel!
I am probably a bit better informed than you actually and its amazing how the words "get here or you don't get paid" suddenly make the drive clear itself and the car gets going. I have a life thanks and the facts are the schools are closed and council services are disrupted to the point that 3 days after the initial snow fall the private sector is working normally and the public sector is coming out with ste like "we are snowed in" The are not really they are just believing thier own bullst.

Bill Carr

2,234 posts

236 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
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turbobloke said:
Elroy Blue said:
nonegreen said:
This is a very special kind of winter. It uniquely supplies undrivable treacherous condition for people in the public sector. Yet private sector workers are able to travel to and from work with only slight delays and a few mishaps.
FFS..Get a life!

All those Police, nurses, fireman, ambulance workers haven't levitated themselves into work. There are plenty of PRIVATE companies closed because their employees can't get into work.

But hey...why let facts get in the way of ill informed drivel!
How about not letting reasoned debate get in the way when insults will do?

It's not drivel btw.

Public sector workers have enjoyed pay rises during the recession that are nearly three times those experienced in the private sector:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/6827619/Tri...

They must have been rewarded for taking more sick leave:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2585711/Pub...
staff in town halls, health services, schools and other government-funded bodies took about 35 per cent more time off than employees in private companies, who each missed about seven days

With a bonus for not getting in to work when others clearly can:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/...
Snow Exposes the Public Sector Instinct to Give Up

How about providing evidence for your claims before resorting to insults? Maybe, if you looked first before posting, you'd have nothing to post smile
What?! No one told me that I'd had a payrise this year. Must have a word with my employer and ask them what's occurring, as the Telegraph says I'm due a few quid. That is, if I can be bothered to drag my lazy arse in to work. tongue out

Elroy Blue

8,692 posts

194 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
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nonegreen said:
Elroy Blue said:
nonegreen said:
This is a very special kind of winter. It uniquely supplies undrivable treacherous condition for people in the public sector. Yet private sector workers are able to travel to and from work with only slight delays and a few mishaps.
FFS..Get a life!

All those Police, nurses, fireman, ambulance workers haven't levitated themselves into work. There are plenty of PRIVATE companies closed because their employees can't get into work.

But hey...why let facts get in the way of ill informed drivel!
I am probably a bit better informed than you actually and its amazing how the words "get here or you don't get paid" suddenly make the drive clear itself and the car gets going. I have a life thanks and the facts are the schools are closed and council services are disrupted to the point that 3 days after the initial snow fall the private sector is working normally and the public sector is coming out with ste like "we are snowed in" The are not really they are just believing thier own bullst.
A bit better informed than me.....why, have you been reading the Daily Mail!!

My wife is working, her colleagues are working. I'm working, all my colleagues are working. My wife's friends are shop assistants (private sector for info), they haven't gone into work, nor would they consider getting up at 5am to go, or consider working through the night in extreme temperatures.

You might want to try working at 4am when it's -15 degrees rather than spouting rubbish on here!

Edited by Elroy Blue on Saturday 9th January 13:47

odyssey2200

Original Poster:

18,650 posts

211 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
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Elroy

My Mother, Sister, Wife and some of our friends are all Civil Servants and from my presonal experiance, based on over 30years of accounts of the way that the public sector is run and what it allows it's staff to get away with, I respectfully call bkS! on your account of the public sector.





Ten Ninety

244 posts

178 months

Saturday 9th January 2010
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Regarding school closures and teacher duvet-days... for this one we can actually blame the right-wing, free-market, private-sector lobbyists who bulldozered the concept of 'accountability' into the world of state education. Sadly, those well-meaning folks never appreciated that in schools, it's the law of unintended consequences which reigns supreme. And we've been dealing with the fallout ever since.

So, a couple of years back some ex-private-sector advisor to the government decides that schools are to be held accountable for the percentage of children who fail to attend, regardless of the reason. Yeah, that'll stop those dirty Trotskyites from fiddling their figures by marking truants down as 'authorised absence' and thus escaping penalty, won't it? Ha! That'll teach them!

But, of course, TLOUC always wins:

Scenario 1

Headteacher decides to open school in the snow. Fewer children than usual turn up. School's attendance figure falls. School fails to meet its annual attendance target. School fails its Ofsted inspection. Headteacher is sacked.

Scenario 2

Headteacher decides to close school in the snow. No children can attend. Snow closure days are not counted at all in attendance figures. School meets its annual attendance target. School passes its Ofsted inspection. Headteacher keeps his job.

And who makes the decision whether to close. Why, the headteacher, of course!

Anyway, keep smiling all you private-sector wealth-generators, as you battle through the blizzards to do your capitalist duty. Take joy from the knowledge that it's you, and you alone, who are keeping this country afloat in these tough times. I salute you all... From my duvet.