Russians lose 200 tanks

[Jimbeaux]

Nadyenka said:

Fuzzy Wuzzy said:

Nadyenka said:

Lost soul said:

Jimbeaux said:

Lost soul said:

article said:

Russia did not need its 20,000 tanks

Thats a hell of a lot of armour , howm any A1M1's have they made 7-8000 then our few hundred on top , no match is it

Not really true. The gun range of the M1 over a T-72 or T-80 is far superior. There are problem with autoloaders jamming in the T tanks that apparently were too costly to retrofit. Remember also, Bradley and other light armored vehicles carry TOW and other tank-killing missles; there is not always a need for another tank or aircraft to kill an enemy tank. More Iraqi tanks were destroyed by missles from Bradley fighting vehicles than by other tanks IIRC.

I know , but then factor in how many troops (even badly trained troops)the Russkis have and then factor in that they also have shoulder mounted and vehicle mounted anti tank weapons , ok it seems to be accepted that their kit is not as good as the west's but a Uncle Joe said "Quantity has a quality of its own "

At least Russian soldiers do not always shoot at their allys like the Americans.

Yeah, right...

Chechnya: http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P1-72148802.html

Georgia: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL8262192

Russian sub Kursk: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/r...

Actually, you're right, they shoot their own!

Edited by Fuzzy Wuzzy on Tuesday 2nd March 14:18

It is still not almost as bad as the Americans

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/07/10495676...

This is from 2003 only

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article23...

Also from a British Newspaper

Many people know that the Americans are very bad for this.I do not know why the UK bothers to help them.

Still better than shooting one's own on purpose.

[tinman0]

Frankeh said:

I think Americans rely on technology more than common sense and intuition.

I trust we've all seen the video of the american plane bombing their own tanks. One of BBC's reporters was caught up in the blast. It was a pretty crazy news segment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLwwi8L7yos


And then there's the one from the cockpit view where they repeatedly ask if anyone is operating in the area and the ground says go for it.
Then 10 seconds later they come back on the video telling them not to engage. Bit late by then.
Oh, and he see's that they're painted orange as targets not to engage, but because no ones meant to be there he engages anywhere. Absolute hick trigger happy american attitude that im quite sure our guys wouldn't share.

Orange fking rockets? Not orange panels that you know indicate friendlies?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I6-2NJhnf4

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[Jimbeaux]

Frankeh said:

"Absolute hick trigger happy american attitude that im quite sure our guys wouldn't share."

Yep, that's us everytime. Thanks for that knowledgeable synopsis.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 2nd March 19:36

[Lost soul]

Jimbeaux said:

Frankeh said:

"Absolute hick trigger happy american attitude that im quite sure our guys wouldn't share."

Yep, that's us everytime. Thanks for that knowledgeable synopsis.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 2nd March 19:36

I guess what is always overlooked is that in modern warfare there is so much movement and so many things flying rolling or running about that it should be considered fortunate that there are not more cases of blue on blue

[Frankeh]

Oh come on. He actually SAYS orange panels in the video. Then figures, nah. They're obviously ORANGE MISSILES. That really popular brand of orange coloured missiles. The easyjet missiles?

Then later on he even says "Those orange panels are going to screw us" (Paraphrased) and "we're going to jail".

They were total fkups in that video. Pretty callus too laughing while essentially killing people.