Britains Fattest Woman Dies

[Lost soul]

supersingle said:

We live in a nation where the nanny state takes total responsibility for people's welfare. We shouldn't blame people who relinquish all responsibility for themselves.

I have no feeling for such people , let them terminate them selves by food or drink or drugs i really do not care

[grumbledoak]

ShadownINja said:

One of the failings of the NHS is that they only fix symptoms.

That might well be the most insightful comment on the thread.


As regards tax, I think we should add VAT to take-away food so it isn't artificially cheap. Anything more complex is just going to allow pressure groups and prejudice to penalize us for lifestyle choices (I'm thinking eating meat, for starters).

[Buzz word]

Boozy said:

Buzz word said:

I usually suffer for compassion in these cases but I recognise the son from down the gym. I guess as its a bit closer to home I just feel sorry for the lad and his siblings losing their mum so young.

Is he a crash mat?

Nope, fit young lad. Always see him in the free weights area. He's the one in the foreground of the second pic down. He is always putting the effort in.

[BrassMan]

Plotloss said:

HundredthIdiot said:

Plotloss said:

I've said for years a tax should be introduced on the nutritional value of food.

What you talking about Willis?

Like, more calories = more tax? A bag of sugar would cost a fortune.

My BMI is 20.3. Why should I have to pay more for all the food I eat?

Forget gastric bands, just surgically remove their taste buds when they hit 20 stone.

No but something a bit more elegant than that.

So a turkey twizzler would be taxed out of sight yet fresh chicken breast would stay at a similar price to the market value.

You mean right where it is now, when compared with the Turkey Twizzler?

[Plotloss]

Yeah, so there'd be no putative tax on the fresh chicken but a significant amount on the twizzler.

How bloody hard is it to slice a chicken breast and coat it in crushed cornflakes or breadcrumbs?

[wiggy001]

grumbledoak said:

ShadownINja said:

One of the failings of the NHS is that they only fix symptoms.

That might well be the most insightful comment on the thread.


As regards tax, I think we should add VAT to take-away food so it isn't artificially cheap. Anything more complex is just going to allow pressure groups and prejudice to penalize us for lifestyle choices (I'm thinking eating meat, for starters).

Er... we already have VAT on takeaway food!

[grumbledoak]

wiggy001 said:

Er... we already have VAT on takeaway food!

Really, has the whole eat-in, take out distinction gone? Good.

[Don]

They're going to need a really big coffin.

[FourWheelDrift]

Don said:

They're going to need a really big coffin.

[Tommy Winchester]

FourWheelDrift said:

Don said:

They're going to need a really big coffin.

Funniest thing I have seen all day.

On a serious note, I dislike her more than I dislike Tony Blair...

Thats saying something!

[Randy Winkman]

supersingle said:

We live in a nation where the nanny state takes total responsibility for people's welfare. We shouldn't blame people who relinquish all responsibility for themselves. They are the victims of government largess.

We should be blaming ourselves for allowing the state to become so huge and all powerful.

Aren't you letting a political viewpoint cloud your view a bit? We can eat pretty much whatever we want with little or no Government interference. I could spend the next month eating nothing, eating nothing but cornflakes, or eating just about every food under the sun. The Government would have nothing whatsoever to do with it. I could also drink as little or as much alcohol as I wanted and do as little or as much exercise as I wanted.

[carmonk]

wiggy001 said:

Because I am of the view that public funds should not be used to help those that refuse to help themselves, especially not when it's to the tune of hundreds of thousands of pounds and definitely not when we refuse cancer treatments and the like on the grounds of the drugs being too expensive.

Would those be the treatments for cancers across the board, or does it exclude 85% of lung cancers, a significant proportion of mouth and throat cancers, 40% of bowel cancers, most melanomas, and no doubt hundreds of other preventable varieties? And what about those who continue to drive carelessly knowing the dangers - deny them treatment when the come a cropper? And what about drinkers? They put more strain on public services than fatties (although many, unfortunately, are both). And of course drug addicts and those who practice unsafe sex, I guess they're on the list too..? And so on and so forth. The upshot is if we behaved sensibly and took care of ourselves the hospitals would be almost empty.

[FourWheelDrift]

Sell off the NHS and in one swoop pay off a large part, if not all of the national debt and let everyone use whatever money they were paying into the NHS to take out their own private healthcare insurance.







I know...... who'd be stupid enough to buy such a huge money losing business

[supersingle]

Randy Winkman said:

supersingle said:

We live in a nation where the nanny state takes total responsibility for people's welfare. We shouldn't blame people who relinquish all responsibility for themselves. They are the victims of government largess.

We should be blaming ourselves for allowing the state to become so huge and all powerful.

Aren't you letting a political viewpoint cloud your view a bit? We can eat pretty much whatever we want with little or no Government interference. I could spend the next month eating nothing, eating nothing but cornflakes, or eating just about every food under the sun. The Government would have nothing whatsoever to do with it. I could also drink as little or as much alcohol as I wanted and do as little or as much exercise as I wanted.

The state always picks up the pieces. It removes any incentive to take responsibility for oneself.

At the same time the state punishes the responsible through taxation.

I find it incredible that people see the solution to such problems to be greater taxation and state control.

The state supports thousands of people who are too fat to work. Under a free market most of those people wouldn't get so fat because there would be a real disincentive to doing so. But no, the state knows best and keeps mailing them their giros so that they can eat themselves to death.

So yes, I feel sorry for these people and I reserve my hatred for the state.

[Randy Winkman]

supersingle said:

Randy Winkman said:

supersingle said:

We live in a nation where the nanny state takes total responsibility for people's welfare. We shouldn't blame people who relinquish all responsibility for themselves. They are the victims of government largess.

We should be blaming ourselves for allowing the state to become so huge and all powerful.

Aren't you letting a political viewpoint cloud your view a bit? We can eat pretty much whatever we want with little or no Government interference. I could spend the next month eating nothing, eating nothing but cornflakes, or eating just about every food under the sun. The Government would have nothing whatsoever to do with it. I could also drink as little or as much alcohol as I wanted and do as little or as much exercise as I wanted.

The state always picks up the pieces. It removes any incentive to take responsibility for oneself.

At the same time the state punishes the responsible through taxation.

I find it incredible that people see the solution to such problems to be greater taxation and state control.

The state supports thousands of people who are too fat to work. Under a free market most of those people wouldn't get so fat because there would be a real disincentive to doing so. But no, the state knows best and keeps mailing them their giros so that they can eat themselves to death.

So yes, I feel sorry for these people and I reserve my hatred for the state.

Your "hatred for the state" clearly outweighs your hatred for irresponsible citizens.

[Flintstone]

croyde said:

Jinx said:

Thudd said:

Perhaps she was mentally ill? She was certainly "not right".
This needed treating as an addiction.

Cold Turkey?

With a lot of Cranberry sauce.

Edited by croyde on Tuesday 27th July 16:31

She's certainly stuffed now.

[grumbledoak]

Randy Winkman said:

Your "hatred for the state" clearly outweighs your hatred for irresponsible citizens.

I think you have misunderstood. Authority and responsibility are two sides of the same coin. The state often grows it's power and authority by removing individual power and responsibility. This is inherent.

Edited by grumbledoak on Tuesday 27th July 21:30

[Randy Winkman]

grumbledoak said:

Randy Winkman said:

Your "hatred for the state" clearly outweighs your hatred for irresponsible citizens.

I think you have misunderstood. Authority and responsibility are two sides of the same coin. The state often grows it's power and authority by removing individual power and responsibility. This is inherent.

Edited by grumbledoak on Tuesday 27th July 21:30

I don't feel I've had power and responsibility removed. Perhaps some lazy people do though.

[grumbledoak]

Randy Winkman said:

I don't feel I've had power and responsibility removed.

Then you've not been thinking hard enough. I presume you pay tax toward the NHS? If you subsequently cannot afford private health care then you have very much had power and responsibility removed from you.

I won't comment on the lazy remark.

[El Guapo]

Tommy Winchester said:

On a serious note, I dislike her more than I dislike Tony Blair...

Now that really is cruel.