Bull gets his own back

[HundredthIdiot]

Pics from the Mail...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-...

[B16JUS]

Ive seen 2 bull fights in spain ( both the same location different years ) and both times they have treated the bull well no stabbing killing etc.

Infact it was quite nice and entertaining, but obvously other parts of spain torture etc the bull.

[Frankeh]

HundredthIdiot said:

Frankeh said:

HundredthIdiot said:

Frankeh said:

HundredthIdiot said:

Frankeh said:

Baahaha. Serves them right.

Go to watch a bull get slaughtered then complain when it hurts you? Pull the other one.

Did you even listen to the video?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullfighting#Recortes

No. I don't have sound.

Right. Best not to let ignorance stop you from raising your postcount. The internet needs you!

Oh, I watched a bull fight without sound and assumed it was a Spanish bullfight. Go suck one.

So, the fact that the bull managed to execute a perfect two-stage leap on to a fence then into a stand gave you absolutely no clue that this was a bullfight of the "being chased around by a bull" sort rather than the "stabbing a bull to death" sort?

Or maybe you had no idea that Recortes even existed and were just arguing from ignorance.

There wasn't even anyone in the pen. Please enlighten me as to how I would have possibly known what kind of bull fight it was just by looking at a bull standing alone in a pen.

Excuse me for assuming it was the violent kind.

In conclusion, go suck one and stop picking fights on the internet.

Also, SAY DAT 2 MY FACE.

[tamore]

get in bully!

double top!

[Wing Commander]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f2KnZ3iqhc

Another example of stupid people

[Laurel Green]

Wing Commander said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f2KnZ3iqhc

Another example of stupid people

Who said bullfighting is barbaric? Those bulls seemed determined to get into the arena and get things started.

[peterpeter]

I always find it amazing that in the UK we are so critical about bullfighting, yet many of the same people defend fox-hunting at the same time
Even worse we quite happily eat meat from animals that have been farmed cruelly for far longer than the bull suffers in that ring.

just because we can actually see the bull dying, somehow its far worse than 10,000 chickens living a horrendous existence for a few months in a battery farm. People who shove KFC down their gobs and at the same time are horrified about bullfighting as if its barbaric. I think they would be far more shocked about how the meat industry has to operate to produce cheap food if they cared to take a look

I am not pro bull fighting, anti fox-hunting or vegetarian but what's clear is that the hypocrisy here is throbbing.

[remedy]

peterpeter said:

I always find it amazing that in the UK we are so critical about bullfighting, yet many of the same people defend fox-hunting at the same time
Even worse we quite happily eat meat from animals that have been farmed cruelly for far longer than the bull suffers in that ring.

just because we can actually see the bull dying, somehow its far worse than 10,000 chickens living a horrendous existence for a few months in a battery farm. People who shove KFC down their gobs and at the same time are horrified about bullfighting as if its barbaric. I think they would be far more shocked about how the meat industry has to operate to produce cheap food if they cared to take a look

I am not pro bull fighting, anti fox-hunting or vegetarian but what's clear is that the hypocrisy here is throbbing.

People don't go to watch the animals getting farmed cruelly and cheer on the farmer or slaughterman.
However, I'm hoping that battery farming is going out of fashion as people want to better understand where their food is coming from.

The animals get shot in the head. Not stabbed multiple times and chased round the ring. Oh, nor are they stabbed a few times before the event to get them suitably annoyed before we send a bolt through the brain. Not good for the meat, all that adrenalin.

Fox hunting, I don't disagree with. After all, a bull isn't vermin. Plus the hounds are pack hunting as they would be in the wild. They catch the fox and it gets ripped apart. As dogs do.

[groucho]

I think peterpeter is spot on with his comparison with fox hunting. That last sentence by the last poster...well...

Not you, lamp lover.

Edited by groucho on Thursday 19th August 20:21

[remedy]

groucho said:

I think peterpeter is spot on with his comparison with fox hunting. That last sentence by the last poster...well...

Not you, lamp lover.

Edited by groucho on Thursday 19th August 20:21

How exactly is fox-hunting exactly the same - or a "spot on" comparison with bull fighting?

[groucho]

remedy said:

groucho said:

I think peterpeter is spot on with his comparison with fox hunting. That last sentence by the last poster...well...

Not you, lamp lover.

Edited by groucho on Thursday 19th August 20:21

How exactly is fox-hunting exactly the same - or a "spot on" comparison with bull fighting?

Do I have to hold your hand and run you through his sentence? Lordy! No I doubt it, you already know what I was referring to.

[carmonk]

It's a shame a kid was injured as clearly it's not the kid's fault he has low-life parents but the adults who got injured deserved all they got and more. A pity the bull didn't plough through the lot of them. Scum.

[peterpeter]

remedy said:

peterpeter said:

I always find it amazing that in the UK we are so critical about bullfighting, yet many of the same people defend fox-hunting at the same time
Even worse we quite happily eat meat from animals that have been farmed cruelly for far longer than the bull suffers in that ring.

just because we can actually see the bull dying, somehow its far worse than 10,000 chickens living a horrendous existence for a few months in a battery farm. People who shove KFC down their gobs and at the same time are horrified about bullfighting as if its barbaric. I think they would be far more shocked about how the meat industry has to operate to produce cheap food if they cared to take a look

I am not pro bull fighting, anti fox-hunting or vegetarian but what's clear is that the hypocrisy here is throbbing.

People don't go to watch the animals getting farmed cruelly and cheer on the farmer or slaughterman.
However, I'm hoping that battery farming is going out of fashion as people want to better understand where their food is coming from.

The animals get shot in the head. Not stabbed multiple times and chased round the ring. Oh, nor are they stabbed a few times before the event to get them suitably annoyed before we send a bolt through the brain. Not good for the meat, all that adrenalin.

Fox hunting, I don't disagree with. After all, a bull isn't vermin. Plus the hounds are pack hunting as they would be in the wild. They catch the fox and it gets ripped apart. As dogs do.

so you are saying cruel farming is ok then just because we don't see it?
and just because people aren't cheering it on, we should focus all of our rage on bullfighting?

Would it be ok if the bullfight happened privately ?

You seem to be more horrified by the fact people get enjoyment out of it than the fact the animal is killed in an apparent cruel manner.
And in fox-hunting it is solely about enjoyment. It's a tradition and we defend that tradition rightly (or wrongly)in the UK

I actually think a bullfight shows an animal far more respect than other ways of slaughtering and far more respect than the fox receives.

I dont buy your argument for fox hunting- at least the bull is eaten. We all assume the bull is suffering terribly. But how can we actually measure that compared to the suffering of a battery chicken, lab monkey, or a deer that gets shot and carries an injury for a few hours before dying. -
Its all a load of emotional bks and seems more of a vehicle to bash the spanish than a sensible argument.

again I am not really anti or pro anything here- just anti hypocrit!

[remedy]

groucho said:

remedy said:

groucho said:

I think peterpeter is spot on with his comparison with fox hunting. That last sentence by the last poster...well...

Not you, lamp lover.

Edited by groucho on Thursday 19th August 20:21

How exactly is fox-hunting exactly the same - or a "spot on" comparison with bull fighting?

Do I have to hold your hand and run you through his sentence? Lordy! No I doubt it, you already know what I was referring to.

His sentance? Are you referring to my post or not?

[remedy]

peterpeter said:

remedy said:

peterpeter said:

I always find it amazing that in the UK we are so critical about bullfighting, yet many of the same people defend fox-hunting at the same time
Even worse we quite happily eat meat from animals that have been farmed cruelly for far longer than the bull suffers in that ring.

just because we can actually see the bull dying, somehow its far worse than 10,000 chickens living a horrendous existence for a few months in a battery farm. People who shove KFC down their gobs and at the same time are horrified about bullfighting as if its barbaric. I think they would be far more shocked about how the meat industry has to operate to produce cheap food if they cared to take a look

I am not pro bull fighting, anti fox-hunting or vegetarian but what's clear is that the hypocrisy here is throbbing.

People don't go to watch the animals getting farmed cruelly and cheer on the farmer or slaughterman.
However, I'm hoping that battery farming is going out of fashion as people want to better understand where their food is coming from.

The animals get shot in the head. Not stabbed multiple times and chased round the ring. Oh, nor are they stabbed a few times before the event to get them suitably annoyed before we send a bolt through the brain. Not good for the meat, all that adrenalin.

Fox hunting, I don't disagree with. After all, a bull isn't vermin. Plus the hounds are pack hunting as they would be in the wild. They catch the fox and it gets ripped apart. As dogs do.

so you are saying cruel farming is ok then just because we don't see it?
and just because people aren't cheering it on, we should focus all of our rage on bullfighting?

Would it be ok if the bullfight happened privately ?

You seem to be more horrified by the fact people get enjoyment out of it than the fact the animal is killed in an apparent cruel manner.
And in fox-hunting it is solely about enjoyment. It's a tradition and we defend that tradition rightly (or wrongly)in the UK

I actually think a bullfight shows an animal far more respect than other ways of slaughtering and far more respect than the fox receives.

I dont buy your argument for fox hunting- at least the bull is eaten. We all assume the bull is suffering terribly. But how can we actually measure that compared to the suffering of a battery chicken, lab monkey, or a deer that gets shot and carries an injury for a few hours before dying. -
Its all a load of emotional bks and seems more of a vehicle to bash the spanish than a sensible argument.

again I am not really anti or pro anything here- just anti hypocrit!

No of course I do't agree with cruel farming methods - that's why I said I was hoping they were going out of fashion as people move to buying more free range produce.
Unfortunately we need to eat - and to do so with mass farming methods its death is quick and painless to the animal.
Bull fighting by its very nature, isn't.

Respect, ha. I respect the bull for actually being able to make a name for itself and fight back. Something it's rarely given the chance to do.

[carmonk]

peterpeter said:

I actually think a bullfight shows an animal far more respect than other ways of slaughtering and far more respect than the fox receives.

And at the end of the day, it's all about respect

[Randy Winkman]

carmonk said:

peterpeter said:

I actually think a bullfight shows an animal far more respect than other ways of slaughtering and far more respect than the fox receives.

And at the end of the day, it's all about respect

In this instance, the bull is showing the crowd what it thinks of their "respect".

[peterpeter]

Randy Winkman said:

carmonk said:

peterpeter said:

I actually think a bullfight shows an animal far more respect than other ways of slaughtering and far more respect than the fox receives.

And at the end of the day, it's all about respect

In this instance, the bull is showing the crowd what it thinks of their "respect".

yes exactly- and the fact that the bull can fight back and kill people in the crowd or the bullfighter is good. at least it CAN happen.

I find it the whole idea of it far less cowardly than some fat st sitting in a tree pointing a gun at a deer.

[remedy]

peterpeter said:

Randy Winkman said:

carmonk said:

peterpeter said:

I actually think a bullfight shows an animal far more respect than other ways of slaughtering and far more respect than the fox receives.

And at the end of the day, it's all about respect

In this instance, the bull is showing the crowd what it thinks of their "respect".

yes exactly- and the fact that the bull can fight back and kill people in the crowd or the bullfighter is good. at least it CAN happen.

I find it the whole idea of it far less cowardly than some fat st sitting in a tree pointing a gun at a deer.

Again, VERMIN control. You know, spreading TB and killing farmers cattle, stripping trees back and ruining farmers land/livelihoods.

Still, the fat sts sat in their city houses don't see that do they - just the cute doe-eyed bambie bounding through the lush green fields.

[carmonk]

peterpeter said:

Randy Winkman said:

carmonk said:

peterpeter said:

I actually think a bullfight shows an animal far more respect than other ways of slaughtering and far more respect than the fox receives.

And at the end of the day, it's all about respect

In this instance, the bull is showing the crowd what it thinks of their "respect".

yes exactly- and the fact that the bull can fight back and kill people in the crowd or the bullfighter is good. at least it CAN happen.

I find it the whole idea of it far less cowardly than some fat st sitting in a tree pointing a gun at a deer.

Pity you get ungrateful bulls like this one. There's no pleasing some bulls, they just can't see when they're onto a good thing.