How to beat the EU?

[Busa_Rush]

.:ian:. said:

Nic jones said:

Can someone tell me what the average financial saving of 60W energy saving bulb over a standard bulb is over 12 months?

If we assume it to be a living room light that is on for 6 hours per day everyday.

(I'm sure I could work it out but frankly, that involves thinking)

Thanks

60w x 6 hrs x 365 days = 131KWH @ 9.5p/KWH = £12.44
11w x 6 hrs x 365 days = 24KWH @ 9.5p/KWH = £2.28

If that was possible . . . the 11 watt bulbs are so dim they're next to useless. You need at least a 21 or 23 watt bulb to get reasonable light level, so the savings are reduced. Look at the Lux measurements here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/e...

[Bill]

Mojooo said:

The energy saving lightbulbs have caught up with the old ones, they come on straight away and give out enough light, IMO.

In which case why do the energy firms only send out crappy old ones that don't?

[grumbledoak]

.:ian:. said:

60w x 6 hrs x 365 days = 131KWH @ 9.5p/KWH = £12.44
11w x 6 hrs x 365 days = 24KWH @ 9.5p/KWH = £2.28

You need to read Le TVR's post above. You could probably double the 'cost' of the energy saver, and you wouldn't want to read under one in the evening. Add the extra cost of them, which you pay one way or another, and the exaggerated lifetimes, and they aren't such a clear win. The equivalent years worth of savings as petrol wouldn't give you much of a trip.

[mondeoman]

grumbledoak said:

.:ian:. said:

60w x 6 hrs x 365 days = 131KWH @ 9.5p/KWH = £12.44
11w x 6 hrs x 365 days = 24KWH @ 9.5p/KWH = £2.28

You need to read Le TVR's post above. You could probably double the 'cost' of the energy saver, and you wouldn't want to read under one in the evening. Add the extra cost of them, which you pay one way or another, and the exaggerated lifetimes, and they aren't such a clear win. The equivalent years worth of savings as petrol wouldn't give you much of a trip.

B&Q "energy efficient" bulbs - £4.26

'orrible things, yukky light

"normal" bulbs - 50p each

[mudster]

supersingle said:

^ They don't give a good spectrum of light which makes them unpleasant and headache inducing to read by.

Also, they're not nearly as efficient as made out. The makers lie about the light output and they use more power than stated (google power factor).

They're going to have to be sold on lumen output rather than wattage in the near future and I would agree some manufacturers have been a little creative with the actual output.