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Sounds like a terrible, terrible accident.
Poor chap.
Sounds like a terrible, terrible accident.
Poor chap.
What bridge?I was there you were not .Postion of the body in relation to the train and the nearest overbridge makes this highly suspect.I came to a stand at a signal which is just a few yards from Brookhouse Lane,as I walked towards the Northern train people were walking dogs on the lane below.The Norhtern service was just yards north of the lane.There is a footbridge further north after the canal underbridge.This must have happened at low speed as the northern service was on his approach to Congleton station.
Only the driver of the Northern service will know where the victim was and I didn't ask.I will not go into detail on the way the body was in relation to the train.The only real way for the victim to have been in that location was if he'd walked there.
Only the driver of the Northern service will know where the victim was and I didn't ask.I will not go into detail on the way the body was in relation to the train.The only real way for the victim to have been in that location was if he'd walked there.
streaky said:
In general, BTP pass these to the local force to deal.
In third-rail areas (e.g. the old Southern Railways area and the old LMS line from Manchester to Bury [is that still third-rail?]), the locals arrive and require power turned off. According to my sources down here, BTP don't do this automatically.
The SIO then opens a murder policy book and treats the scene as the locus of a potential murder. Train movements that might compromise the scene or safety of officers and others on the track are stopped (so in a sense the OP was fortunate that his train proceeded).
From experience (as a rail traveller to and from London) it takes at least two hours for services to start moving again, assuming the death is attributed to accident or suicide. Fortunately, there have been no recent murders on the railway tracks I use - the last was Maartje Tamboezer in 1986, one of the 'Railway Killer's victims. [A friend led the Operation Hart investigation team.] I imagine that - as with road closures - the police might close all running lines in the immediate vicinity to an on-track murder, and keep them closed for a long period (possibly several days). If the lines were into London, the chaos would be unbelievable.
Streaky
Bury line is now a tramline overhead wires.In third-rail areas (e.g. the old Southern Railways area and the old LMS line from Manchester to Bury [is that still third-rail?]), the locals arrive and require power turned off. According to my sources down here, BTP don't do this automatically.
The SIO then opens a murder policy book and treats the scene as the locus of a potential murder. Train movements that might compromise the scene or safety of officers and others on the track are stopped (so in a sense the OP was fortunate that his train proceeded).
From experience (as a rail traveller to and from London) it takes at least two hours for services to start moving again, assuming the death is attributed to accident or suicide. Fortunately, there have been no recent murders on the railway tracks I use - the last was Maartje Tamboezer in 1986, one of the 'Railway Killer's victims. [A friend led the Operation Hart investigation team.] I imagine that - as with road closures - the police might close all running lines in the immediate vicinity to an on-track murder, and keep them closed for a long period (possibly several days). If the lines were into London, the chaos would be unbelievable.
Streaky
I live in Congleton and the bridge Congletonian mentions can only be the one by the Station itself (it being the only Main Road across the lines - all others are 'B' roads). The bus stop isn't close enough to the lines to warrant sitting on the wall there - and the accident was nowhere near the station anyway. Brookhouse Lane is in open countryside and if it occured north of there then this man was way off the beaten track. Definitely dog walking territory but not on a route to anywhere.
Local news source this morning says "The incident happened just north of Congleton Railway Station near the viaduct."
http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/news/Police-p...
The viaduct is a good couple of miles away from the station
Congletonian - you need to give a little more detail on this - did you know the man in question? Suicide is looking quite likely - certainly your story is looking like a complete fabrication (perhaps based on rumour - I have no wish to cast aspersions on yourself)
Local news source this morning says "The incident happened just north of Congleton Railway Station near the viaduct."
http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/news/Police-p...
The viaduct is a good couple of miles away from the station
Congletonian - you need to give a little more detail on this - did you know the man in question? Suicide is looking quite likely - certainly your story is looking like a complete fabrication (perhaps based on rumour - I have no wish to cast aspersions on yourself)
dodgyviper said:
Congletonian said:
I am a local resident in Congleton and I just ask you can accept this was a terrible accident from a young man who was sitting on the bridge and fell off.
The article above puts him as a 52 year old.Congletonian - is there anything in your account that IS correct?
People say the strangest things, from the article
The finance controller from Congleton, said: "I get this train at the same time Monday to Thursday and I've never had any problems with it before.
The University of Manchester student, who lives in Scholar Green, said: "I don't usually get this train on a Wednesday, but I get it the same time on a Thursday and Friday.
WTF?
The finance controller from Congleton, said: "I get this train at the same time Monday to Thursday and I've never had any problems with it before.
The University of Manchester student, who lives in Scholar Green, said: "I don't usually get this train on a Wednesday, but I get it the same time on a Thursday and Friday.
WTF?
maser_spyder said:
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...
Sounds like a terrible, terrible accident.
Poor chap.
That thread has now been merged with this one to keep the discussion in one place.Sounds like a terrible, terrible accident.
Poor chap.
As I've already said the only definative evidence is that of the northern driver,the train had not reached the station, the location of the nearest over bridge .The train front is mostly cosmetic even a body at speed will do damage to the panelling nothing was visable from the front at all.Trust me I would not have walked the 200 yards or so to see the the driver.Even a pigeon at 30mph and above leaves remains on the front of a train there was nothing .By inference that indicates the person was lying down, nearest over bridge is from Brookhouse lane a good mile in either direction.
Oldred_V8S said:
People say the strangest things, from the article
The finance controller from Congleton, said: "I get this train at the same time Monday to Thursday and I've never had any problems with it before.
The University of Manchester student, who lives in Scholar Green, said: "I don't usually get this train on a Wednesday, but I get it the same time on a Thursday and Friday.
WTF?
The finance controller from Congleton, said: "I get this train at the same time Monday to Thursday and I've never had any problems with it before.
The University of Manchester student, who lives in Scholar Green, said: "I don't usually get this train on a Wednesday, but I get it the same time on a Thursday and Friday.
WTF?
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