Oz body slam, now house mistress abuses boys in NSW.

Oz body slam, now house mistress abuses boys in NSW.

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Godzuki

73,668 posts

257 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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That wasn't his question. He was asking at what point does that fantasy stop being paedophillia. A 2 minute search discovered that 11+ for girls, and 12+ for boys has another name.

deckster

9,630 posts

257 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Godzuki said:
That wasn't his question. He was asking at what point does that fantasy stop being paedophillia. A 2 minute search discovered that 11+ for girls, and 12+ for boys has another name.
The cut-off between paeodophilia and hebephilia is puberty, is it not? Which again isn't subject to a prescribed legal or numerical definition so far as I am aware.

Godzuki

73,668 posts

257 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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deckster said:
The cut-off between paeodophilia and hebephilia is puberty, is it not? Which again isn't subject to a prescribed legal or numerical definition so far as I am aware.
Yup.. It gave an average age, which would be around 11+ for girls, and 12+ for boys. That's what I said.

singlecoil

33,926 posts

248 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Godzuki said:
deckster said:
The cut-off between paeodophilia and hebephilia is puberty, is it not? Which again isn't subject to a prescribed legal or numerical definition so far as I am aware.
Yup.. It gave an average age, which would be around 11+ for girls, and 12+ for boys. That's what I said.
That's almost what you said.

Godzuki

73,668 posts

257 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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singlecoil said:
That's almost what you said.
Well, isn;t this all turning into a semantics thread. I'll paste what I read on the definition.

"Hebephilia refers to the sexual preference for individuals in the early years of puberty (generally ages 11–14, though onset of puberty may vary). Girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11; boys at age 12 or 13. Hebephilia differs from ephebophilia, which refers to the sexual preference for individuals in later adolescence,[1"

There, that was you'll see what I mean. Can we stop with the silly semantics?

singlecoil

33,926 posts

248 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Godzuki said:
singlecoil said:
That's almost what you said.
Well, isn;t this all turning into a semantics thread. I'll paste what I read on the definition.

"Hebephilia refers to the sexual preference for individuals in the early years of puberty (generally ages 11–14, though onset of puberty may vary). Girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11; boys at age 12 or 13. Hebephilia differs from ephebophilia, which refers to the sexual preference for individuals in later adolescence,[1"

There, that was you'll see what I mean. Can we stop with the silly semantics?
I've had another read of what you said, and believe that I now see what you were getting at. Perhpas I just find the way you put things a little awkward.

Bing o

15,184 posts

221 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Is the human race divided into two clases of people then - those who have had children and those who havent?
appreciating the true awfullness of paedophelia?.
It was an attempt at irony, Eric, based on many comments you get in the lounge.

Jerwatt

22,263 posts

203 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Tsippy said:
At that age in my school, there were girls who wanted to fk the male teachers (some succeeded according to the rumour mill) and boys who would be more than up for fking the female teachers (again some may have succeeded)....and those who fancied fudge packing and fanny rubbing the staff.

Still doesn't make what she did right, in fact I think it's disgusting, but I don't think that the 'psychological damage' that people claim actually exists. If any of the kids in my year had achieved their desire of banging the fit teachers at the ages of 11-14 they'd have been getting high fives laugh
Does it not occur to you that puberty happens at different stages with different people, so they might not have been wanting to do it at that age? Or that they did not actually want to do it, because perhaps they just weren't ready for it (or the teacher was perhaps a munter - would it be the same if it had been the very large fat lady teacher with more than a small hint of a moustache)? I think you need to go and look at how some people have been affected by this sort of thing. Just because not all people are affected it does not mean that none will be.

See the article where it says "One victim later said the woman had pressured the boys, saying: "Come on, let's go, don't be a puss", and he had "felt like a wimp" until he agreed to oral sex."

Of course, that sounds like he really wanted to do it... rolleyes


andy_s

19,423 posts

261 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Position of trust, position of authority, abuse of that position, illegal sexual activity, inappropriate sexual activity.

Yup, send her down.

Although I agree that the 'mental trauma' suffered by the victims is probably not as much as an abduction/rape scenario, I think I'd be pretty pissed off as a parent on their behalf.


Eric Mc

122,203 posts

267 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Bing o said:
Eric Mc said:
Is the human race divided into two clases of people then - those who have had children and those who havent?
appreciating the true awfullness of paedophelia?.
It was an attempt at irony, Eric, based on many comments you get in the lounge.
Send me the complete boxed set of Whoose Parrots.

Flintstone

8,644 posts

249 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Godzuki said:
Why is it when it is a women you never hear the term paedophile?
A schizophrenic paedophile?

Google [bot]

6,682 posts

183 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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SMH said:
A school house mistress who sexually abused six boys is to be jailed for at least five years.

In the NSW District Court today, Judge Anthony Garling handed down the minimum term while sentencing the 41-year-old woman to a maximum eight-year term.

The judge in December found the woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, guilty of 21 sex offences involving boys, aged 11 or 12, who attended the NSW school where she worked.

The offences, which occurred in 2009, included 18 counts of sexual intercourse.

The judge rejected the woman's defence of mental illness, but found she was suffering from a bipolar disorder at the time.

The sentencing is continuing.

dmulally

6,216 posts

182 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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Bi-polar at the time? Selective bi-polar...?

I did know a chick who had that. Nutjob who would be normal and stabby crazy depending on the day she was having. She was also a ranga.

Pony

917 posts

222 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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nice

shakotan

10,729 posts

198 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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dmulally said:
Bi-polar at the time? Selective bi-polar...?

I did know a chick who had that. Nutjob who would be normal and stabby crazy depending on the day she was having. She was also a ranga.
Texas, Power, or Park?

jdw1234

6,021 posts

217 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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shakotan said:
dmulally said:
Bi-polar at the time? Selective bi-polar...?

I did know a chick who had that. Nutjob who would be normal and stabby crazy depending on the day she was having. She was also a ranga.
Texas, Power, or Park?
I found it funny!!

jesta1865

3,448 posts

211 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Those who keep their "interest" to observing, watching media etc are obviously behaving in an aberrant (and abhorent) way but the bature of their crime is an order of magnitude lower than actual molesting or abusing. It is up to the courts to decide how serious the various offences are - or indeed if what the person was doing constuituted an offence at all.
i understand your logic, but i feel its flawed here, if you are watching media contain the abuse of children under the age of consent and you are excited about it then by default you are condoning that action and to me that makes you (the viewer not eric mc) as guilty as the person in said media doing the abuse.

i have to say, i wonder about these people and can not for the life of me work out what makes them tick


Eric Mc

122,203 posts

267 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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That's not the way the law sees it.

Condoning something is NOT the same as doing it.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

192 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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Pony said:
nice

Godzuki

73,668 posts

257 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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Eric Mc said:
That's not the way the law sees it.

Condoning something is NOT the same as doing it.
What is the law with having kiddy porn on your computer? How does the law see that 'passive' act?