'cost of living is too high'

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okgo

38,532 posts

200 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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If I want to moan about the cost of eating out three times a week I will, just because you do worse than me, that doesn't matter, the point is, it is getting too high.

You seem to be moaning that people who do better than you and have better lifestyles don't know thwe struggle people like you face etc etc blah blah, well most people work hard or work smart to not have to, they have earned the right to moan as much as you have.

andyroo

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2,469 posts

212 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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That isn't the case. I am moaning about people who exaggerate their situations. They claim to be skint because of the government, yet buy themselves what they want.

If I have to make an adjustment, I do it, knowing that really, compared to previous generations, I've got a lot to be grateful for.

Edited by andyroo on Thursday 14th April 12:57

ally_f

245 posts

189 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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I think the OPs point was the kind of generalised soundbites that Radio 1 insist on playing week in week out, rather than suggesting people are not entitled to voice their concerns about a lack of free cash att he end of the month. Last week's was "The cost of living has gone up too much...I used to fill my trolley 'til it was overflowing and not worry about how much it was going to cost, now I take a basket and I know I won't have anough money when I get to the till". Really? Really? Has the cost of your weekly shop quadrupled in the last couple of years? It's a similar one with insurance "Fred had to pay £1900 to insure his car and he only earns £15k a year"...perhaps Fred should think twice about buying a Subaru Impreza and getting done for speeding repeatedly then!

I hate it when they play this type of clip to back up their sensationalist headlines.

JohnnyRims

900 posts

161 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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They're moaning about the rapid increase in costs of things that maybe two years ago they were able to afford but now can't despite no drop in income, rather than suggesting they might starve to death. Easy.

andyroo

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Thursday 14th April 2011
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JohnnyRims said:
They're moaning about the rapid increase in costs of things that maybe two years ago they were able to afford but now can't despite no drop in income, rather than suggesting they might starve to death. Easy.
But by referring to it as 'cost of living' makes it sound like some great poverty is on it's way.

okgo

38,532 posts

200 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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So what.

It hits everyone. I work hard so I don't have to live on a council estate etc so if I think things are rising sharply I will moan about it.

andyroo

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Thursday 14th April 2011
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okgo said:
So what.
That's exactly the attitude. So what, I just want as much as I can get and sod everybody else.

okgo

38,532 posts

200 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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Why not?

I don't go to work for other people do I? I already pay plenty of money for seemingly nothing (see council tax thread).

What you're forgetting is its your choice to work for little money and have a less extravagant lifestyle, I choose not to (although I'm not living it up by any stretch) so whether you're on £10k or £100k its going to hit you just as hard.

The difference is the £100k guy can curve his lifestyle to compensate, but he's worked harder and smarter and luckier for that luxury.


DJC

23,563 posts

238 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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okgo said:
Why not?

I don't go to work for other people do I? I already pay plenty of money for seemingly nothing (see council tax thread).

What you're forgetting is its your choice to work for little money and have a less extravagant lifestyle, I choose not to (although I'm not living it up by any stretch) so whether you're on £10k or £100k its going to hit you just as hard.

The difference is the £100k guy can curve his lifestyle to compensate, but he's worked harder and smarter and luckier for that luxury.
Because a bird called Marie once said something about cake.

In other words when you know you are in a better situation than others...you dont lord it over them. You shut up and use a little discretion.

Jalopnik

1,271 posts

220 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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DonkeyApple said:
It wasn't exactly too long ago when people really only went out for a big night the weekend after payday, didn't eat out that often, spend money on ready meals, flash holidays and gadgets and didn't have credit cards or finance agreements on sofas, cars, TVs etc.

It's not that the cost of living is too high at all it is that there are at least 2 generations who have lost all concept of money management.

The last decade has seen the massive social and media indocrintation that you have a right to everything, everyone is a princess or mega star and buying things you don't need is an acceptable lifestlye.
This ^^^^ - sums it up perfectly! biggrin

okgo

38,532 posts

200 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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Sod that.

didn't you move to another country for a huge payrise?

grantone

640 posts

175 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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andyroo said:
But by referring to it as 'cost of living' makes it sound like some great poverty is on it's way.
What would you include in your 'cost of living', would it include any money for entertainment, presents, holidays, etc...?

poo at Paul's

14,225 posts

177 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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HardToLove said:
Having to tell your little one that they cannot go on the school camp as we cannot afford it this year hurts, while the "free school dinner" lot go anyway for a subsidised £5 gets me upset TBH.
That sucks. How much is your son or daughter's school camp?

Edited by poo at Paul's on Thursday 14th April 15:03

RemainAllHoof

76,688 posts

284 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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oyster said:
Kebab shops will close.
WHAT??? NEVER! I will prop up the local kebab shop myself if I have to.

andyroo

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212 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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grantone said:
What would you include in your 'cost of living', would it include any money for entertainment, presents, holidays, etc...?
What ever is required to actually live. Anything that is for enjoying yourself is surplus to that.

Frankeh

12,558 posts

187 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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Is the cost of living to high, or is the cost of their living too high?

I could probably live off £500 a month if I had to. Phone would go, broadband/tv would go, gym membership would go, share a house (I do that anyway, but share with more people)..


grantone

640 posts

175 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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andyroo said:
What ever is required to actually live. Anything that is for enjoying yourself is surplus to that.
How many hours on minimum wage working per week would you expect to be enough to pay your own life costs?

Genuine questions BTW, your thread has intrigued me about what a realistic expectation of living standards should be in the UK. Personally I would expect it to be around 25 hours, working 40 hours minimum wage per week should push you quite a long way past just living and into have money for discretionary purchases or savings.

andyroo

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Thursday 14th April 2011
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I used to rent with my wife whilst we were both earning minimum wage and doing 40 hours a week when we started out. We had money for a decent flat, a newish car, big tv, xbox, sky, holidays etc

glazbagun

14,322 posts

199 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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andyroo said:
I'm sick of media soundbites of people who are out and about during work hours complaining that the cost of living is too high - when they are fighting to get food on their tables and keep a roof over their heads, then they can say it - having to cut the movies package from sky does not constitute unaffordable living!
Despite having almost no debt, my parents almost went bust over winter, and fuel prices have them seriously considering selling the family home so as to move into a crappy one bedroom flat closer to their business in the city. They, combined, work 26 hours a day, six days a week, haven't taken a holiday abroad in three years and say they've never seen it so bad since the early 90's recession. I'd say it depends on how much disposable income you have.

Regarding reports- Its propbably easier to ask people in the streets their opinion as to pop down to the Honda factory or local supermarket and ask working staff how they're handling the hour-cuts, or inflation.

Digga

40,592 posts

285 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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glazbagun said:
Regarding reports- Its propbably easier to ask people in the streets their opinion as to pop down to the Honda factory or local supermarket and ask working staff how they're handling the hour-cuts, or inflation.
Which begs the question; why do they bother.

Ask a stupid person, get a stupid answer.