New cable car crossing for River Thames!

New cable car crossing for River Thames!

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XJSJohn

15,970 posts

220 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Bing o said:
Murph7355 said:
Compare it to the transport systems serving our other major cities and I think you'll find that there are few better. Worldwide?
I'm posting this response in my air-conditioned MRT ride 20 metres underground, and the trip is costing me 47p. I don't know what a Yorkshireman considers Worldwide, but it's further than Liverpool.

Anyway, my point was that as a commuter of many a year, it would be nice if they did something for the average commuter for once rather than Johnny foreigner and the Olympics.

And I'm more than aware of the limitations facing the Tube, one of my best friends is an engineering PM on the Underground.
Smug bd hehe

Whats an MRT?? hehe ... it was only last month that i discovered that we have a Yellow Line paperbag

Bing o

15,184 posts

220 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Ross1988 said:
Except the no eating and drinking rule, but apart from that, easily the best public transport I have used.
You've never been on a carriage witha Durian then have you wink

Ross1988

1,234 posts

184 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Bing o said:
You've never been on a carriage witha Durian then have you wink
Nope I have not fortunately! It can't be as bad as BO from 17 sources within 15 meters of you thought can it like on my local public transport, although this may of changed as I have not used public buses since I gained my driving license 5 years ago.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Jackleman said:
youngsyr said:
Guess who picks up the bill if TFL cannot find sufficient sponsorship?

Strikes me that it would be better to secure sponsorship before building, rather than the other way around, but hell, it's only taxpayers' money. Who cares?!
This whole argument about investing tax payers money I can understand, however I was proven wrong when they finally opened the Spinnaker Tower in Portsmouth, it has been a resounding success and from what I understand brings in a lot more money than the initial investment.
That's all well and good, but if it's an investment of taxpayer's money for a projected return then they should be open about it, publish the business case and let the taxpayers assess it and hold the people pushing it to account.

That is not the way this is being promoted - it's investing taxpayer's money through the backdoor by claiming that sponsorship, which isn't in place when the decision was made to go ahead with the scheme, will pick up the cost.

They haven't even decided on how much a ticket will cost, for God's sake! If this were a commercial venture it wouldn't have got anywhere near being approved as it stands, but it seems that as it's a public venture, finalising the details before ploughing on doesn't matter, because the good old tax payer will always pick up any shortfall.



FraserLFA

5,083 posts

175 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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GKP said:
Zip wire. Much better.
They tend to be only one way. unless you build 2. Then there's the chance of collisions. And if you only have one, how do you get the harnesses back to the start?

You haven't thought this through, have you? hehe

tinman0

18,231 posts

241 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Bing o said:
tinman0 said:
Sucks to be you.
Not really, I left the London 'hole behind me, so to speak. If the British want to polish turds rather than clean the cistern and bowl that's up to them.
Then stopping bhing about the underground! If you couldn't hack it in London (understandable), no one is going to hold it against you. wink

Bing o

15,184 posts

220 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Ross1988 said:
Nope I have not fortunately! It can't be as bad as BO from 17 sources within 15 meters of you thought can it like on my local public transport
Trust me, durian is far far far far worse.

catso

14,798 posts

268 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Symbolica said:
I used the one in Cologne a few times and you get stunning views across the Rhine, but I'd take issue with one bit:

Article said:
The cable car will span the Thames, providing a low-emission, quick, direct and fully accessible link
Quick they ain't hehe
Likely have to wait an hour to get on it, it'd be quicker to swim...

james_tigerwoods

16,290 posts

198 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Pffft - I want to see a trebuchet crossing over the Thames...

Murph7355

37,818 posts

257 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Bing o said:
Trust me, durian is far far far far worse.
Indeed. Though they had a separate law for that as well as all the others biggrin

tbf though, they seem to have eased up on many. Can't possibly be because Malaysia was looking increasingly attractive smile

munky

5,328 posts

249 months

Thursday 21st April 2011
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Oakey said:
dugt said:
That does actually sound like a good idea. Obviously a cable car isnt going to be for commuting, so may as well make it worth the ride.
Why? I'm sure they have commuter cable cars in New York?
Which is fine if the cable car goes from somewhere lots of commuters are, to somewhere lots of commuters need to get to. I'm not sure there's a huge commuter demand from the dome to the eXcel centre. For a tourist attraction fine, but the BBC at least was portraying it as a green alternative to the evil CO2 producing traffic jams crossing bridges & tunnels

Jackleman

Original Poster:

974 posts

167 months

Thursday 21st April 2011
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munky said:
Which is fine if the cable car goes from somewhere lots of commuters are, to somewhere lots of commuters need to get to. I'm not sure there's a huge commuter demand from the dome to the eXcel centre. For a tourist attraction fine, but the BBC at least was portraying it as a green alternative to the evil CO2 producing traffic jams crossing bridges & tunnels
I thought there were quite a few people living in these areas? It is London isn't it.

TEKNOPUG

19,019 posts

206 months

Thursday 21st April 2011
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"Oooh look I can see Poplar! Great....."

hehe

munky

5,328 posts

249 months

Thursday 21st April 2011
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Jackleman said:
munky said:
Which is fine if the cable car goes from somewhere lots of commuters are, to somewhere lots of commuters need to get to. I'm not sure there's a huge commuter demand from the dome to the eXcel centre. For a tourist attraction fine, but the BBC at least was portraying it as a green alternative to the evil CO2 producing traffic jams crossing bridges & tunnels
I thought there were quite a few people living in these areas? It is London isn't it.
Yeah, but I don't think many people will want to commute from a music arena to a conference centre. Neither of these places are in the centre of London. Most commuters will commute into the centre, not from a south eastern wasteland (around the dome) to a north eastern expanse of nothingness but a conference centre and City aiport. Maybe a handful of people might find it useful to get to the airport (still a fair walk with luggage) but not enough to warrant a cable car.

area around the dome