Guess who's not going to the wedding...?

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Zaxxon said:

Hmm lets see,
One son is a successful army officer, now apache pilot. Other is a Raf pilot, air sea rescue. Aunty is successful olympic showjumper. Uncle was a naval pilot. Father was a RAF pilot. Grandad was a naval captain in ww2. There are many other things but I cant be arsed typing on my ipad.

Given how diificult it is to get a flying slot in the RAF or RN do you think any of those achivements may have owed something to an accident of birth? I'd put Cherie Blair's achievements as higher than any of those when you look at where she started from.

Zaxxon said:

What did b,liar and winky achieve, other than fk this country?

I'd argue the bankers were as much, if not more to blame for the current economic situation than Blair or Brown. If it was just those two then the US and most of Western europe wouldn't be in a similar pickle

[deadslow]

Why don't they hold the wedding in their home town, somewhere in Germany?

[mph1977]

The Hypno-Toad said:

Very, very pleased to see those two traitors are not invited. A bit dangerous to invite the untalented stick insect though, I would imagine she will be trying her very best to upstage the bride in the fashion stakes.

invited as a wife of though ... not on her merits

[M001]

Countdown said:

Zaxxon said:

Hmm lets see,
One son is a successful army officer, now apache pilot. Other is a Raf pilot, air sea rescue. Aunty is successful olympic showjumper. Uncle was a naval pilot. Father was a RAF pilot. Grandad was a naval captain in ww2. There are many other things but I cant be arsed typing on my ipad.

Given how diificult it is to get a flying slot in the RAF or RN do you think any of those achivements may have owed something to an accident of birth? I'd put Cherie Blair's achievements as higher than any of those when you look at where she started from.

Zaxxon said:

What did b,liar and winky achieve, other than fk this country?

I'd argue the bankers were as much, if not more to blame for the current economic situation than Blair or Brown. If it was just those two then the US and most of Western europe wouldn't be in a similar pickle

So, because they are royalty they get the job anyway, even if they are crap at it? They must possess the skills to pass the relevant tests, and lets face it, nepotism is a fact of life.

Cherie Blair, the criminals apologist and she has played the "i'm connected" card to the full. I seem to remember she thought she could waltz through customs with x thousand pounds worth of goodies without paying duty.

The bankers were (partly) to blame along with a credit hungry public, and what did Blair and Brown do to reign it in??? Absolutely fk all!

Edited by M001 on Sunday 24th April 20:14

[Victor McDade]

Soovy said:

Are you on DRUGS?

Bliar - war criminal, failed barrister. Blood on hands. About sums it up.

Love him or loathe him, and I'm firmly in the latter category, you can't seriously mock blair's achievements.

Took a bunch of no hopers and led them to a landslide election victory. Won a further two elections comfortably. Instrumental in putting an end to the kosovan genocide, carried on major's fine work and brought relative peace to a nation, northern ireland, which hadn't seen any for decades.

Then even after a disastrous war, finds himself making tens of millions of pounds a year advising various nations and companies.

Slimy, immoral, and self serving yes but you cannot deny the mans success. The opposition would have loved blair as their leader. His ability to judge the electorates viewpoint and then twist this to his own advantage was brilliant. Had he fought the last election in place of brown, I think labour would have won. Not because he would have been better for the nation but just because he was the master manipulator and would have found a way to con the electorate again.

[arguti]

Victor McDade said:

Love him or loathe him, and I'm firmly in the latter category, you can't seriously mock blair's achievements.

Took a bunch of no hopers and led them to a landslide election victory. Won a further two elections comfortably. Instrumental in putting an end to the kosovan genocide, carried on major's fine work and brought relative peace to a nation, northern ireland, which hadn't seen any for decades.

Then even after a disastrous war, finds himself making tens of millions of pounds a year advising various nations and companies.

Slimy, immoral, and self serving yes but you cannot deny the mans success. The opposition would have loved blair as their leader. His ability to judge the electorates viewpoint and then twist this to his own advantage was brilliant. Had he fought the last election in place of brown, I think labour would have won. Not because he would have been better for the nation but just because he was the master manipulator and would have found a way to con the electorate again.

can't argue with this, pretty much sums him up.

[sharpfocus]

Victor McDade said:

Took a bunch of no hopers and led them to a landslide election victory. Won a further two elections comfortably. Instrumental in putting an end to the kosovan genocide, carried on major's fine work and brought relative peace to a nation, northern ireland, which hadn't seen any for decades.

Then even after a disastrous war, finds himself making tens of millions of pounds a year advising various nations and companies.

Slimy, immoral, and self serving yes but you cannot deny the mans success.

If that's what success looks like, I'd rather be a dismal failure.

[Zaxxon]

Countdown said:

Zaxxon said:

Hmm lets see,
One son is a successful army officer, now apache pilot. Other is a Raf pilot, air sea rescue. Aunty is successful olympic showjumper. Uncle was a naval pilot. Father was a RAF pilot. Grandad was a naval captain in ww2. There are many other things but I cant be arsed typing on my ipad.

Given how diificult it is to get a flying slot in the RAF or RN do you think any of those achivements may have owed something to an accident of birth? I'd put Cherie Blair's achievements as higher than any of those when you look at where she started from.

Zaxxon said:

What did b,liar and winky achieve, other than fk this country?

I'd argue the bankers were as much, if not more to blame for the current economic situation than Blair or Brown. If it was just those two then the US and most of Western europe wouldn't be in a similar pickle

Will and Harry are able and of a high enough standard to be entrusted to fly Air Sea Rescue and the Army's latest Apache(the hardest helo traing course in the world). But of course in your simple and twisted mind they are only there cause Granny says so.
Your a moron, that's a judgement call and I'm making it.

[DWP]

Zaxxon said:

Will and Harry are able and of a high enough standard to be entrusted to fly Air Sea Rescue and the Army's latest Apache(the hardest helo traing course in the world). But of course in your simple and twisted mind they are only there cause Granny says so.
Your a moron, that's a judgement call and I'm making it.

They have worked hard but it is inescapable that they had a better chance than others. When they were 2nd Lts or as the Blues and Royals call them Cornets, in other words at the level of the most junior officers in the Army, General Dannatt then Chief of the Defence Staff would address them as Sir.

[stripy7]

Zaxxon said:

Will and Harry are able and of a high enough standard to be entrusted to fly Air Sea Rescue and the Army's latest Apache(the hardest helo traing course in the world). But of course in your simple and twisted mind they are only there cause Granny says so.
Your a moron, that's a judgement call and I'm making it.

Thats right no strings pulled, no extra tuition or privileges, no blind eyes turned eg when MOD property was "borrowed" for a jolly to the IOW. Grow up FFS and join the real world.

[dandarez]

Shaw Tarse said:

Cameron isn't going

FH! My estimation of the Bearskins has just sunk.
You can now join up and in 1 year (18 years old) become a Bearskin (p*ssed up yob?) sentried outside Buck Palace guarding the Queen. Bloody hell, didn't used to be like this, but then must prove just how short of boots we really are.

Christ, this country. What a bloody mess.

[Halb]

Victor McDade said:

Took a bunch of no hopers and led them to a landslide election victory.

Labour was en route to a very comfortable victory, certainly not not hopers. Blair is usually credited as giving them the ridiculous majority they did ensuring a Presidential PMship for himself.

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Zaxxon said:

Will and Harry are able and of a high enough standard to be entrusted to fly Air Sea Rescue and the Army's latest Apache(the hardest helo traing course in the world). But of course in your simple and twisted mind they are only there cause Granny says so.
Your a moron, that's a judgement call and I'm making it.

Perhaps you should take your head out of your anus and re-read what I said;

Given the competition for flying slots in the RAF/RN do you believe that Charles, Andrew, William, and Harry all got selected on merit?

Prat.

[Traveller]

The UK version of a Disney theme park wedding. So it is not a state occasion, great, then why am I paying for the security then? Want to have your lavish wedding, please feel free to make use of state amenities, as we all should be able to, but make sure you pay for all of it yourself including the security. Willy and Kate, or should I address you more formally, make that Mickey and Minnie ?

I guess that makes Charles Goofy, and Camilla is the donkey, rather apt actually.

[grumbledoak]

Countdown said:

I'd argue the bankers were as much, if not more to blame for the current economic situation than Blair or Brown. If it was just those two then the US and most of Western europe wouldn't be in a similar pickle

What a bunch of absolute rubbish. I'd have happily watched a few banks go under. We didn't need to save them; that was a lie. But the debt that Gordon arranged for us is one hundred times bigger.

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grumbledoak said:

Countdown said:

I'd argue the bankers were as much, if not more to blame for the current economic situation than Blair or Brown. If it was just those two then the US and most of Western europe wouldn't be in a similar pickle

What a bunch of absolute rubbish. I'd have happily watched a few banks go under. We didn't need to save them; that was a lie. But the debt that Gordon arranged for us is one hundred times bigger.

So why is the US economy in the same situation? Why have Greece, Ireland, and Portugal needed financial support?

[Zaxxon]

Countdown said:

Perhaps you should take your head out of your anus and re-read what I said;

Given the competition for flying slots in the RAF/RN do you believe that Charles, Andrew, William, and Harry all got selected on merit?

Prat.

Having spoken to someone who worked with Harry in Afghanistan then Yes as far as the two youngans go, he is apparently an excellent officer in normal conditions and when operational. Perhaps you could supply some facts to show that they have not proved themselves to be worthy of their role or job? Of course it's just easier to be jealous and pathetic, whats wrong, didn't you make the grade?

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Zaxxon said:

Countdown said:

Perhaps you should take your head out of your anus and re-read what I said;

Given the competition for flying slots in the RAF/RN do you believe that Charles, Andrew, William, and Harry all got selected on merit?

Prat.

Having spoken to someone who worked with Harry in Afghanistan then Yes as far as the two youngans go, he is apparently an excellent officer in normal conditions and when operational. Perhaps you could supply some facts to show that they have not proved themselves to be worthy of their role or job? Of course it's just easier to be jealous and pathetic, whats wrong, didn't you make the grade?

FFS read what I have written.

I have not suggested they are not competent in their roles. The Armed Services do not normally put idiots in charge of million dollar machines. What I am saying is that they were given preferential treatment to be selected in the first place. With regards to their performance after being selected that's probably as much to do with the quality of training they receive. There are plenty of excellent CO and NCOs in the military, Harry and William aren't especially gifted as far as I can see, but obviously I don't have your contacts. Were you by any chance the 2nd trooper on the balcony?

[Zaxxon]

Countdown said:

FFS read what I have written.

I have not suggested they are not competent in their roles. The Armed Services do not normally put idiots in charge of million dollar machines. What I am saying is that they were given preferential treatment to be selected in the first place. With regards to their performance after being selected that's probably as much to do with the quality of training they receive. There are plenty of excellent CO and NCOs in the military, Harry and William aren't especially gifted as far as I can see, but obviously I don't have your contacts. Were you by any chance the 2nd trooper on the balcony?

No I wasn't the 2nd trooper you spastic, I'm a former Royal Marine who keeps in touch with mates who are still in, that is still allowed you realise.
A couple of those still in have served out there and have been attached to certain pongo regiments. Including Harry's, stories and reports are favourable.

The fact that they are now in charge of a Seaking or an Apache means that they have 'the right stuff' and thus would have most likely passed the initial recruiting interviews, made it to training and then there would be a good chance of getting to where they are today. Or can't you get your tiny roundhead brain around that concept. Not everything is a fricken conspiricy. Charles may have had a helping hand as there are stories that he was a bit of a challenged pilot. But Andy, for all his playboy lifestyle was also entrusted with a Seaking, although he was a typical Naval 'pig' officer.

Try again sunshine, I'm off for some beauty sleep.

[Night Runner]

Countdown said:

Zaxxon said:

Countdown said:

Perhaps you should take your head out of your anus and re-read what I said;

Given the competition for flying slots in the RAF/RN do you believe that Charles, Andrew, William, and Harry all got selected on merit?

Prat.

Having spoken to someone who worked with Harry in Afghanistan then Yes as far as the two youngans go, he is apparently an excellent officer in normal conditions and when operational. Perhaps you could supply some facts to show that they have not proved themselves to be worthy of their role or job? Of course it's just easier to be jealous and pathetic, whats wrong, didn't you make the grade?

FFS read what I have written.

I have not suggested they are not competent in their roles. The Armed Services do not normally put idiots in charge of million dollar machines. What I am saying is that they were given preferential treatment to be selected in the first place. With regards to their performance after being selected that's probably as much to do with the quality of training they receive. There are plenty of excellent CO and NCOs in the military, Harry and William aren't especially gifted as far as I can see, but obviously I don't have your contacts. Were you by any chance the 2nd trooper on the balcony?

Not able to answer his question then?