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NinjaPower said:
They are claiming that they are releasing the documents in order to stop a war 'which was planned for July 2014'.
Sounds really quite tinfoil-hat-tastic to me.
It wasn't that long ago when the NSA deliberately making encryption weaker or intercepting laptops in order to place malware would be tinfoil hat territory...Sounds really quite tinfoil-hat-tastic to me.
But that one does seem more tinfoilhatish that most!
NinjaPower said:
They are claiming that they are releasing the documents in order to stop a war 'which was planned for July 2014'.
Sounds really quite tinfoil-hat-tastic to me.
I think it's being misread and it's a plea to release it. Although knowing JY he wouldn't say something without backup.Sounds really quite tinfoil-hat-tastic to me.
Edward Snowden: Smartphone users can do 'very little' to stop security services getting control of devices
article said:
Mr Snowden, responsible for the biggest leak of top secret intelligence documents the world has ever seen, said GCHQ could gain access to a handset by sending it an encrypted text message and use it for such things as taking pictures and listening in.
BlackLabel said:
Edward Snowden: Smartphone users can do 'very little' to stop security services getting control of devices
This is hardly news to anyone, I don't know why Snowden chose to live a life on the run in Siberia to gift us information that is pretty well accepted. What a knob.article said:
Mr Snowden, responsible for the biggest leak of top secret intelligence documents the world has ever seen, said GCHQ could gain access to a handset by sending it an encrypted text message and use it for such things as taking pictures and listening in.
FredClogs said:
This is hardly news to anyone, I don't know why Snowden chose to live a life on the run in Siberia to gift us information that is pretty well accepted. What a knob.
So he didn't release a single thing that wasn't known?You are the only militant lefty I've ever read comments by that doesn't think this guy is a hero.
Snowden should be recognised as champion of democracy who has rightly exposed the state's cheating and lies.
People like Fred Cloggs who just roll over and acquiesce in 24/7 monitoring by the state would do well to find a copy of George Orwell's 1984 and catch up with their reading.
Between monitoring your location, communications and credit card the state has everything. Now put that in the hands of Jeremy Corbyn's new socialist revolution and just make sure you don't step out of line.....
People like Fred Cloggs who just roll over and acquiesce in 24/7 monitoring by the state would do well to find a copy of George Orwell's 1984 and catch up with their reading.
Between monitoring your location, communications and credit card the state has everything. Now put that in the hands of Jeremy Corbyn's new socialist revolution and just make sure you don't step out of line.....
Pesty said:
FredClogs said:
This is hardly news to anyone, I don't know why Snowden chose to live a life on the run in Siberia to gift us information that is pretty well accepted. What a knob.
So he didn't release a single thing that wasn't known?You are the only militant lefty I've ever read comments by that doesn't think this guy is a hero.
But you know, best not say much more about this - they're watching...
BlackLabel said:
Edward Snowden: Smartphone users can do 'very little' to stop security services getting control of devices
He's just piped up today to coincide with the European Court decision today on the nutty Austrian v Facebook case. Every Snowden revelation is timed to coincide with some data privacy freak event in Brussels. article said:
Mr Snowden, responsible for the biggest leak of top secret intelligence documents the world has ever seen, said GCHQ could gain access to a handset by sending it an encrypted text message and use it for such things as taking pictures and listening in.
Also noticed the 'Internet giants obstruct the war on terror' in today's press. Same thing.
dubloon said:
Snowden should be recognised as champion of democracy who has rightly exposed the state's cheating and lies.
People like Fred Cloggs who just roll over and acquiesce in 24/7 monitoring by the state would do well to find a copy of George Orwell's 1984 and catch up with their reading.
Between monitoring your location, communications and credit card the state has everything. Now put that in the hands of Jeremy Corbyn's new socialist revolution and just make sure you don't step out of line.....
+1People like Fred Cloggs who just roll over and acquiesce in 24/7 monitoring by the state would do well to find a copy of George Orwell's 1984 and catch up with their reading.
Between monitoring your location, communications and credit card the state has everything. Now put that in the hands of Jeremy Corbyn's new socialist revolution and just make sure you don't step out of line.....
In a democratic western world this type of public monitoring is absurd and seems to me to be a consequence of lack of border controls and very loose immigration policies.
It also serves as a self protection measure against public uprising when a government starts to fail on numerous fronts. Again it shouts of anti-democracy and very much more like ultimate state control (ie. communism).
BlackLabel said:
Edward Snowden: Smartphone users can do 'very little' to stop security services getting control of devices
The most popular smartphone OS, Android, is open source.
How exactly can sending an ‘encrypted text’ (whatever that is - I assume an SMS message) to a consumer handset, enable someone to remotely take control of the local OS & do all the claimed nefarious things?
article said:
Mr Snowden, responsible for the biggest leak of top secret intelligence documents the world has ever seen, said GCHQ could gain access to a handset by sending it an encrypted text message and use it for such things as taking pictures and listening in.
I call BS on this headline.The most popular smartphone OS, Android, is open source.
How exactly can sending an ‘encrypted text’ (whatever that is - I assume an SMS message) to a consumer handset, enable someone to remotely take control of the local OS & do all the claimed nefarious things?
DaveCWK said:
I call BS on this headline.
The most popular smartphone OS, Android, is open source.
How exactly can sending an ‘encrypted text’ (whatever that is - I assume an SMS message) to a consumer handset, enable someone to remotely take control of the local OS & do all the claimed nefarious things?
Like the Stagefright vulnerability for example? Affects something like 95% of Android handsets.The most popular smartphone OS, Android, is open source.
How exactly can sending an ‘encrypted text’ (whatever that is - I assume an SMS message) to a consumer handset, enable someone to remotely take control of the local OS & do all the claimed nefarious things?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stagefright_(bug)
That's just one that we now know about.
DaveCWK said:
The most popular smartphone OS, Android, is open source.
I'm not so sure about that, for two reasons.Firstly, I'm not convinced it's entirely open source.
Secondly, I'm not convinced it's the only exploitable software the phones run.
And thirdly, as above.
Tonsko said:
DaveCWK said:
I call BS on this headline.
The most popular smartphone OS, Android, is open source.
How exactly can sending an ‘encrypted text’ (whatever that is - I assume an SMS message) to a consumer handset, enable someone to remotely take control of the local OS & do all the claimed nefarious things?
Like the Stagefright vulnerability for example? Affects something like 95% of Android handsets.The most popular smartphone OS, Android, is open source.
How exactly can sending an ‘encrypted text’ (whatever that is - I assume an SMS message) to a consumer handset, enable someone to remotely take control of the local OS & do all the claimed nefarious things?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stagefright_(bug)
That's just one that we now know about.
SMS was created purely for software engineers for this very purpose, it was never intended to be a user messaging system, that happened by accident how ever odd that may sound now.
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