Farage in Brussels - a national embarrassment
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alfie2244 said:
Guybrush said:
alfie2244 said:
lostkiwi said:
If we had an employee with stats like that they would be sacked. No question.
Its either gross incompetence, gross negligence or gross misconduct.
Job very well done IMO... the clue is in the name UKIP and it's raison d'etre (i.e. Brexit)and would NOT have happened without him....... however the rather large lady hasn't sung yet so he may still have a bit of work to do.Its either gross incompetence, gross negligence or gross misconduct.
Incidentally, he has minimised his frequency of turning up just to claim the daily allowance that so many on the EU gravy train do, despite appearing to do no work.
If Remainers are angry then they should vent this anger / abuse at those that either led the UK into this mess and or cocked a deaf ear (ridiculed, belittled, abused take your choice)to anybody that had the temerity to raise concerns on where it was obvious the Titanic was clearly heading to anybody not wearing tinted glasses. Thereby leading to the point where we are today i.e. Remainers are in a minority and need to stop whingeing and look at this as an opportunity, a new door opened not an old one closed.
All the people who voted for him think that he has done a superb job.
All the people who didn't vote for him are saying that he didn't do a proper job.
He has achieved more than any other politician in the last 20 years.
I doubt that he could have worked any harder on my behalf.
Are the comments in the European parliament by Farage and Juncker actually so far removed from the kind of things we hear in our own parliament week in week out?
Cameron said:
Ask my mother? I think I know what my mother would say. I think she’d look across the dispatch box and she’d say: put on a proper suit, do up your tie and sing the national anthem.
Esseesse said:
Are the comments in the European parliament by Farage and Juncker actually so far removed from the kinds of things we hear in ours week in week out?
Ah yes but that's ok coz it was Dave and not Nige saying it.Cameron said:
Ask my mother? I think I know what my mother would say. I think she’d look across the dispatch box and she’d say: put on a proper suit, do up your tie and sing the national anthem.
listen to them today in the backround in the HOC...children most of them....eta Listen when Carswell speaks ...no wonder we have kids on here FFS.
Edited by alfie2244 on Wednesday 29th June 12:25
alfie2244 said:
lostkiwi said:
If we had an employee with stats like that they would be sacked. No question.
Its either gross incompetence, gross negligence or gross misconduct.
Job very well done IMO... the clue is in the name UKIP and it's raison d'etre (i.e. Brexit)and would NOT have happened without him....... however the rather large lady hasn't sung yet so he may still have a bit of work to do.Its either gross incompetence, gross negligence or gross misconduct.
He was elected into the EU Parliament to vote on our behalf on matters important to us.
However he also was trying to get us out (with no mandate from the country at that time to do so as UKIP held 24/72 UK seats).
He failed to vote on more than 60% of occasions.
Then uses our lack of ability to get things changed as a reason for leaving the EU (even when he himself has been negligent in performing his duty in using his vote).
In spite of which we still managed to get our way more often than most other EU countries.
Can anyone else see the hypocrisy in all this?
And people STILL think he did a good job for Britain? If we hadn't voted Brexit would they still think that?
alfie2244 said:
It's the anger at him I don't understand....he openly stated what he wanted and achieved it...unlike most other duplicitous, serve serving, politicians that lean whichever the way the wind is blowing.
The Remainers are angry because they thought Farage was a joke, and all UKIP supporters a joke. They thought complaints against the EU were a joke, see also complaints against immigration. They are angry with themselves for not taking the situation seriously enough, and they are angry for being proven naive and deluded about their fellow countrymen, the majority of whom have an entirely different philosophy of life, understanding of British culture and huge grievance about the state of British and European politics. In short, they have been caught on the hop by Farage. lostkiwi said:
So let me get this straight....
He was elected into the EU Parliament to vote on our behalf on matters important to us.
However he also was trying to get us out (with no mandate from the country at that time to do so as UKIP held 24/72 UK seats).
He failed to vote on more than 60% of occasions.
Then uses our lack of ability to get things changed as a reason for leaving the EU (even when he himself has been negligent in performing his duty in using his vote).
In spite of which we still managed to get our way more often than most other EU countries.
Can anyone else see the hypocrisy in all this?
And people STILL think he did a good job for Britain? If we hadn't voted Brexit would they still think that?
Why would you vote on matters that are not in the interests of Britain?He was elected into the EU Parliament to vote on our behalf on matters important to us.
However he also was trying to get us out (with no mandate from the country at that time to do so as UKIP held 24/72 UK seats).
He failed to vote on more than 60% of occasions.
Then uses our lack of ability to get things changed as a reason for leaving the EU (even when he himself has been negligent in performing his duty in using his vote).
In spite of which we still managed to get our way more often than most other EU countries.
Can anyone else see the hypocrisy in all this?
And people STILL think he did a good job for Britain? If we hadn't voted Brexit would they still think that?
lostkiwi said:
alfie2244 said:
It's the anger at him I don't understand....he openly stated what he wanted and achieved it...unlike most other duplicitous, serve serving, politicians that lean whichever the way the wind is blowing.
I'm angry at him because he's a lying conniving arrogant prat. danllama said:
All this discussion about migrants vs refugess is really missing the point.
The poster ILLUSTRATES the EU's FAILURE to deal with the crisis at hand, and over a prolonged period. To this day, in fact. Surely this is something that the citizens of the EU should have been able to trust them to handle??
That is the point.
At what cost?The poster ILLUSTRATES the EU's FAILURE to deal with the crisis at hand, and over a prolonged period. To this day, in fact. Surely this is something that the citizens of the EU should have been able to trust them to handle??
That is the point.
I'm sure we could stop every single migrant from setting foot on European soil, but what would it take to do that in terms of manpower and equipment? At what point do you reach a degree of migration which is cheaper to the taxpayer than it would be to reduce it further?
popeyewhite said:
The Remainers are angry because they thought Farage was a joke, and all UKIP supporters a joke. They thought complaints against the EU were a joke, see also complaints against immigration. They are angry with themselves for not taking the situation seriously enough, and they are angry for being proven naive and deluded about their fellow countrymen, the majority of whom have an entirely different philosophy of life, understanding of British culture and huge grievance about the state of British and European politics. In short, they have been caught on the hop by Farage.
I can't speak for any remainer apart from myself, but any 'anger' I have is soley based on the possibility of our economy going down the swanny, taking my job, house and future with it. To say nothing of a gerneration who will barely live to see the ultimate ramifications of Brexit smugly happy with disenfranchising the generation who will have to bear the brunt of it and denying them access to free movement across the EU and the opportunities to study and work anywhere on the continent.That all said, I respect the 'will of the people' and I m more dissapointed rather than bitter or angry.
KrissKross said:
lostkiwi said:
So let me get this straight....
He was elected into the EU Parliament to vote on our behalf on matters important to us.
However he also was trying to get us out (with no mandate from the country at that time to do so as UKIP held 24/72 UK seats).
He failed to vote on more than 60% of occasions.
Then uses our lack of ability to get things changed as a reason for leaving the EU (even when he himself has been negligent in performing his duty in using his vote).
In spite of which we still managed to get our way more often than most other EU countries.
Can anyone else see the hypocrisy in all this?
And people STILL think he did a good job for Britain? If we hadn't voted Brexit would they still think that?
Why would you vote on matters that are not in the interests of Britain?He was elected into the EU Parliament to vote on our behalf on matters important to us.
However he also was trying to get us out (with no mandate from the country at that time to do so as UKIP held 24/72 UK seats).
He failed to vote on more than 60% of occasions.
Then uses our lack of ability to get things changed as a reason for leaving the EU (even when he himself has been negligent in performing his duty in using his vote).
In spite of which we still managed to get our way more often than most other EU countries.
Can anyone else see the hypocrisy in all this?
And people STILL think he did a good job for Britain? If we hadn't voted Brexit would they still think that?
We have government by representation (and it equally applies to our EU politicians) where we elect them to represent us.
Not turning up is failing to represent us. If something is not in the interests of Britain then vote against it.
If it is then vote for it.
For morality issues vote as you think the electorate would want you to vote. But to not turn up??? Thats an insult to your electorate.
lostkiwi said:
alfie2244 said:
It's the anger at him I don't understand....he openly stated what he wanted and achieved it...unlike most other duplicitous, serve serving, politicians that lean whichever the way the wind is blowing.
I'm angry at him because he's a lying conniving arrogant prat. alfie2244 said:
lostkiwi said:
alfie2244 said:
It's the anger at him I don't understand....he openly stated what he wanted and achieved it...unlike most other duplicitous, serve serving, politicians that lean whichever the way the wind is blowing.
I'm angry at him because he's a lying conniving arrogant prat. Cheers.
You may want to think about something - where did I dispute the result or complain about it? This is about Farage and how he is an embarrassment.
popeyewhite said:
lostkiwi said:
alfie2244 said:
It's the anger at him I don't understand....he openly stated what he wanted and achieved it...unlike most other duplicitous, serve serving, politicians that lean whichever the way the wind is blowing.
I'm angry at him because he's a lying conniving arrogant prat. Boo bah boo bah boo hoo boo hoo...
I want a replay! It's not fair! I want a replay!
The ball wasn't round enough.
Come on, start a petition...
Iceland are a shop not a football term deserving of the result.
Demand a replay. NOW!
I call on all those in the huge IN pram to throw their toys out again. NOW!
I want a replay! It's not fair! I want a replay!
The ball wasn't round enough.
Come on, start a petition...
Iceland are a shop not a football term deserving of the result.
Demand a replay. NOW!
I call on all those in the huge IN pram to throw their toys out again. NOW!
tarnished said:
lostkiwi said:
We elected him (as a country as I never would have personally) to represent us in the EU - a task he appears to have been woefully negligent in performing.
Not to represent us in the EU, to get us out of the EU. There's a clue in the party name. A task he's done remarkably well at by any measure.You wouldn't accept it if your MP told you he didn't have time to help you on a constituency matter or participate in parliamentary debates because he was busy focusing on a single issue of strategy, and it shouldn't have been acceptable for Farage either.
That he delivered on a single issue for the people who voted for him is beyond question, but so is the fact that he failed to provide proper representation for his electorate as a whole on day to day issues in Europe. If he wanted to focus all his efforts on getting the UK out of Europe, then he should've done that, rather than putting himself forwards as an MEP.
lostkiwi said:
alfie2244 said:
lostkiwi said:
If we had an employee with stats like that they would be sacked. No question.
Its either gross incompetence, gross negligence or gross misconduct.
Job very well done IMO... the clue is in the name UKIP and it's raison d'etre (i.e. Brexit)and would NOT have happened without him....... however the rather large lady hasn't sung yet so he may still have a bit of work to do.Its either gross incompetence, gross negligence or gross misconduct.
He was elected into the EU Parliament to vote on our behalf on matters important to us.
However he also was trying to get us out (with no mandate from the country at that time to do so as UKIP held 24/72 UK seats).
He failed to vote on more than 60% of occasions.
Then uses our lack of ability to get things changed as a reason for leaving the EU (even when he himself has been negligent in performing his duty in using his vote).
In spite of which we still managed to get our way more often than most other EU countries.
Can anyone else see the hypocrisy in all this?
And people STILL think he did a good job for Britain? If we hadn't voted Brexit would they still think that?
Well that's progress of sorts.
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