another abuse gang
Discussion
del mar said:
You appear to be posting some sense here....
Post one doesn't need to end though, most of the discussion following it was about reasons / causes, nothing wrong with that at all.
We all appeared to agree many pages ago that there was a cultural aspect to it, you refer above to Pakistani muslims, which is a huge step from the early posts when Asian and men were offered, people were desperate to say it was just men, but progress has been made.
To look into the reasons as to why this happens should be encouraged, hence the thread should continue.
Bring in non Pakistani Grooming gangs that is perfectly fine, and yes it would show that there are white gangs - which there are, and it is not solely because they are Pakistani / Muslim, but don't bring in individuals to deflect from the thread title.
Every few weeks it blows up again and descends into the you said I said nonsense, and trying to desperately to bring in non gang paedophiles. There are loads of white paedophiles we know that, white people are very good at committing crime.
This is a thread for gangs though, irrespective of colour. Very few have made it about colour, on the accusing side - maybe not the best terminology, those defending have made it about colour.
The first page of the thread makes it clear that it’s about colour and trying to smear anyone of one particular religion. Post one doesn't need to end though, most of the discussion following it was about reasons / causes, nothing wrong with that at all.
We all appeared to agree many pages ago that there was a cultural aspect to it, you refer above to Pakistani muslims, which is a huge step from the early posts when Asian and men were offered, people were desperate to say it was just men, but progress has been made.
To look into the reasons as to why this happens should be encouraged, hence the thread should continue.
Bring in non Pakistani Grooming gangs that is perfectly fine, and yes it would show that there are white gangs - which there are, and it is not solely because they are Pakistani / Muslim, but don't bring in individuals to deflect from the thread title.
Every few weeks it blows up again and descends into the you said I said nonsense, and trying to desperately to bring in non gang paedophiles. There are loads of white paedophiles we know that, white people are very good at committing crime.
This is a thread for gangs though, irrespective of colour. Very few have made it about colour, on the accusing side - maybe not the best terminology, those defending have made it about colour.
del mar said:
You appear to be posting some sense here....
Post one doesn't need to end though, most of the discussion following it was about reasons / causes, nothing wrong with that at all.
We all appeared to agree many pages ago that there was a cultural aspect to it, you refer above to Pakistani muslims, which is a huge step from the early posts when Asian and men were offered, people were desperate to say it was just men, but progress has been made.
To look into the reasons as to why this happens should be encouraged, hence the thread should continue.
Bring in non Pakistani Grooming gangs that is perfectly fine, and yes it would show that there are white gangs - which there are, and it is not solely because they are Pakistani / Muslim, but don't bring in individuals to deflect from the thread title.
Every few weeks it blows up again and descends into the you said I said nonsense, and trying to desperately to bring in non gang paedophiles. There are loads of white paedophiles we know that, white people are very good at committing crime.
This is a thread for gangs though, irrespective of colour. Very few have made it about colour, on the accusing side - maybe not the best terminology, those defending have made it about colour.
Course it’s not about colour. For some. Post one doesn't need to end though, most of the discussion following it was about reasons / causes, nothing wrong with that at all.
We all appeared to agree many pages ago that there was a cultural aspect to it, you refer above to Pakistani muslims, which is a huge step from the early posts when Asian and men were offered, people were desperate to say it was just men, but progress has been made.
To look into the reasons as to why this happens should be encouraged, hence the thread should continue.
Bring in non Pakistani Grooming gangs that is perfectly fine, and yes it would show that there are white gangs - which there are, and it is not solely because they are Pakistani / Muslim, but don't bring in individuals to deflect from the thread title.
Every few weeks it blows up again and descends into the you said I said nonsense, and trying to desperately to bring in non gang paedophiles. There are loads of white paedophiles we know that, white people are very good at committing crime.
This is a thread for gangs though, irrespective of colour. Very few have made it about colour, on the accusing side - maybe not the best terminology, those defending have made it about colour.
del mar said:
which posts on the front page ?
No doubt you’ll be blind to what’s being said belowPost 3
mat777 said:
Are they of a similar heritage to the other recent gang?
If yes, then look at the average age of (forced) brides in their home countries, and couple this with their attitude to white girls being worthless trash
Post 7If yes, then look at the average age of (forced) brides in their home countries, and couple this with their attitude to white girls being worthless trash
CaptainSlow said:
mat777 said:
Are they of a similar heritage to the other recent gang?
Not been released yet but based on the area and other similar recent cases then we can all hazard a guess. I'm more surprised about the ages of the gang. ShawCrossShark said:
It just keeps getting worse. Story around here at the moment is a white van cruising around the schools trying to entice girls in. All reports from a number of different schools with the same story - 2 men, asian, white van
It's now being mentioned to all schoolchildren to walk home in groups, schools are issuing instructions to kids and parents and has been in the local press
Heard it on the radio news last night. Two men in a white van, no mention of ethnicity even though every other report and accounts hear first hand all say it
It's now being mentioned to all schoolchildren to walk home in groups, schools are issuing instructions to kids and parents and has been in the local press
Heard it on the radio news last night. Two men in a white van, no mention of ethnicity even though every other report and accounts hear first hand all say it
Dindoit said:
Still not described as a gang. So not relevant. Not a gang, I know. But again demonstrating the different types of abuse that go on. Sexually assaulting a 2 year old. Heinous.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/paedophile-b...
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/paedophile-b...
Alpinestars said:
Not a gang, I know. But again demonstrating the different types of abuse that go on. Sexually assaulting a 2 year old. Heinous.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/paedophile-b...
All paedophilia needs to be stamped out. I should have been on the second of two week's jury service, but was released from it yesterday after a 6 day trial. Two of my fellow jurors had previously served on abuse cases. I hope I never have to.https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/paedophile-b...
In other news, Catholics are wrong uns too: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-4651590...
freakybacon said:
BBC said:
Basharat Khaliq, 38, of Deanwood Crescent, Bradford, is charged with five counts of rape and one count of assault by penetration
Saeed Akhtar, 55, of Back Girlington Road, Bradford, is charged with two counts of inciting child prostitution and one count of rape
Yasar Majid, 37, of Laxfield Drive, Milton Keynes, is charged with one count of rape
Naveed Akhtar, 43, of Newport Place, Bradford, is charged with three counts of rape
Parvaze Ahmed 36, of Farcliffe Road, Bradford, is charged with three counts of rape
Izar Hussain, 32, of St Leonard's Road, Bradford, is charged with three counts of rape and one count of attempted rape
Zeeshan Ali, 32, of Durham Terrace, Bradford, is charged with one count of sexual assault
Kieran Harris, 28, of Fir Parade, Dewsbury, is charged with two counts of rape
Faheem Iqbal, 27, of no fixed abode, is charged with aiding and abetting rape
Mohammed Usman, 31, of Quaker Street, Bradford, is charged with two counts of rape
I think there might be a pattern here, but I'm struggling to see it.Saeed Akhtar, 55, of Back Girlington Road, Bradford, is charged with two counts of inciting child prostitution and one count of rape
Yasar Majid, 37, of Laxfield Drive, Milton Keynes, is charged with one count of rape
Naveed Akhtar, 43, of Newport Place, Bradford, is charged with three counts of rape
Parvaze Ahmed 36, of Farcliffe Road, Bradford, is charged with three counts of rape
Izar Hussain, 32, of St Leonard's Road, Bradford, is charged with three counts of rape and one count of attempted rape
Zeeshan Ali, 32, of Durham Terrace, Bradford, is charged with one count of sexual assault
Kieran Harris, 28, of Fir Parade, Dewsbury, is charged with two counts of rape
Faheem Iqbal, 27, of no fixed abode, is charged with aiding and abetting rape
Mohammed Usman, 31, of Quaker Street, Bradford, is charged with two counts of rape
Aaannd again.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-468670...
BBC said:
Fifty-five men arrested in West Yorkshire over child sex abuse
This is since November.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-468670...
local POV
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/173564...
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/173530...
doesn't actually tell you much though.
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/173564...
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/173530...
doesn't actually tell you much though.
graylag said:
The first page of the thread makes it clear that it’s about colour and trying to smear anyone of one particular religion.
No, I was the OP on this thread and it was most certainly not supposed to be about colour or religion, but actually was about trying to understand the mentality of perpetrators of crimes like this.. In fact, when some people mentioned colour I immediately posted this:andymadmak on this thread in 2012 said:
I was trying to avoid any reference to ethnicity, back ground or religious beliefs. I don't know the make up of the 8 accused.
You read about individual abusers of all types and colours. I suppose I look upon those people as loners acting out their sick fantasies. What I don't get at all is the idea of a gang, a group, getting together in this way. Does none of them ever say "hang on a moment guys, we shouldn't be doing this to a 12 year old kid" ?
Gangs or groups was what I was trying to understand specifically (ie, the bit in bold) . You read about individual abusers of all types and colours. I suppose I look upon those people as loners acting out their sick fantasies. What I don't get at all is the idea of a gang, a group, getting together in this way. Does none of them ever say "hang on a moment guys, we shouldn't be doing this to a 12 year old kid" ?
Digga said:
Aaannd again.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-468670...
55 is a big number. Hopefully anyone involved these crimes, now or in the past, is going to get a knock on the door. BBC said:
Fifty-five men arrested in West Yorkshire over child sex abuse
This is since November.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-468670...
Alpinestars said:
55 is a big number. Hopefully anyone involved these crimes, now or in the past, is going to get a knock on the door.
I agree, the worrying thing is that there may be more who have slipped the net .Hopefully this may dissuade anybody else following in their grubby footsteps.
jas xjr said:
Alpinestars said:
55 is a big number. Hopefully anyone involved these crimes, now or in the past, is going to get a knock on the door.
I agree, the worrying thing is that there may be more who have slipped the net .Hopefully this may dissuade anybody else following in their grubby footsteps.
jas xjr said:
Alpinestars said:
55 is a big number. Hopefully anyone involved these crimes, now or in the past, is going to get a knock on the door.
I agree, the worrying thing is that there may be more who have slipped the net .Hopefully this may dissuade anybody else following in their grubby footsteps.
Alpinestars said:
jas xjr said:
Alpinestars said:
55 is a big number. Hopefully anyone involved these crimes, now or in the past, is going to get a knock on the door.
I agree, the worrying thing is that there may be more who have slipped the net .Hopefully this may dissuade anybody else following in their grubby footsteps.
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