Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party?
Discussion
Murph7355 said:
Grrbang said:
As I understand it, we should be comparing the pay rise with next years inflation, which is predicted to be somewhere between 1-2%. In that sense it is a pay cut.
Not to put too fine a point on it, we should be comparing it to everyone else who's been doing their job over the last 15mths.As to comparing to everyone else who’s been doing their jobs let’s just compare the jobs within the NHS shall we? Has everyone in the NHS been stretched to the limit - all 1.4M or so employees? I very much doubt it. Now I can see a justification for rewarding the very front line staff for their efforts but they will be a minority of the staff. My own view is that these staff should be given a one off bonus for their efforts. Why should the vast majority who did not have to extend themselves be rewarded above anyone else?
I don't dislike Keir Starmer as a person, he appears to be a decent sort. But he is not a leader.
The Labour Party needed to be reformed, I was going to say that Starmer bottled it but I actually think he doesn't have the initiative for that kind of change.
I assume he's very intelligent and well educated but he's a plodder.
There were simple, honest answers to the question from the BBC this morning. He simply didn't have the wit to think of them quickly enough.
The Labour Party needed to be reformed, I was going to say that Starmer bottled it but I actually think he doesn't have the initiative for that kind of change.
I assume he's very intelligent and well educated but he's a plodder.
There were simple, honest answers to the question from the BBC this morning. He simply didn't have the wit to think of them quickly enough.
Andy 308GTB said:
I don't dislike Keir Starmer as a person, he appears to be a decent sort. But he is not a leader.
The Labour Party needed to be reformed, I was going to say that Starmer bottled it but I actually think he doesn't have the initiative for that kind of change.
I assume he's very intelligent and well educated but he's a plodder.
There were simple, honest answers to the question from the BBC this morning. He simply didn't have the wit to think of them quickly enough.
Why he couldn't say something like between 2-5% to be decided by a panel is beyond me, no doubt the don't ever commit to anything school of modern politics, and there are other public sector workers he could upset? But grow a pair Keir!The Labour Party needed to be reformed, I was going to say that Starmer bottled it but I actually think he doesn't have the initiative for that kind of change.
I assume he's very intelligent and well educated but he's a plodder.
There were simple, honest answers to the question from the BBC this morning. He simply didn't have the wit to think of them quickly enough.
Touring442 said:
Starmer getting involved in the Meghan/Harry drama.
Boris rightly says it's nobody else's business, especially a PM.
Starmer really is a prick, all soundbites and kneeling.
Yep that will play well in the Red Wall areas that are so supportive of the woke agenda ........Hasn't got a clue. Boris rightly says it's nobody else's business, especially a PM.
Starmer really is a prick, all soundbites and kneeling.
RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Joking aside, it's quite shocking now, when you see some of the Labour '97-'07 grandees and they come across as sensible and with gravitas. Back when they were in power, I'd have happily stabbed then all. Shows how far the quality's dropped.
Murph7355 said:
I wasn't intending to be critical of Beckett. I don't agree with her politics but I always thought she was more of a conviction politician so fair play to her.
Sadly calling a spade a spade is frowned upon today though.
Murph is an hours timeSadly calling a spade a spade is frowned upon today though.
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768 said:
eliot said:
I suspect the BBC will be sending that journalist for ‘re-education’
I was scratching my head at the BBC branding and wondering if someone was getting fired.Simple, obvious questions, directed at the cavernous void in the argument without unnecessary aggression. No wonder he wouldn't answer. Are there independent journalists reselling this stuff? Baffling, give her a promotion.
Slagathore said:
Had an advert on Facebook last night from Labour - a video of a nurse about why the 1% pay increase is so bad.
Just desperate, emotionally manipulative stuff. I thought Starmer would be better than Corbyn for this sort of stuff, but obviously not.
Notice how it's always referred to as Nurse's pay, when it's actually the whole NHS.Just desperate, emotionally manipulative stuff. I thought Starmer would be better than Corbyn for this sort of stuff, but obviously not.
A Winner Is You said:
Slagathore said:
Had an advert on Facebook last night from Labour - a video of a nurse about why the 1% pay increase is so bad.
Just desperate, emotionally manipulative stuff. I thought Starmer would be better than Corbyn for this sort of stuff, but obviously not.
Notice how it's always referred to as Nurse's pay, when it's actually the whole NHS.Just desperate, emotionally manipulative stuff. I thought Starmer would be better than Corbyn for this sort of stuff, but obviously not.
Like I said ..If your feeling brave
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