Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party?

Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party?

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Andy 308GTB

2,946 posts

223 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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A Winner Is You said:
Slagathore said:
Had an advert on Facebook last night from Labour - a video of a nurse about why the 1% pay increase is so bad.

Just desperate, emotionally manipulative stuff. I thought Starmer would be better than Corbyn for this sort of stuff, but obviously not.
Notice how it's always referred to as Nurse's pay, when it's actually the whole NHS.
100%
But try and explain that in a statement that can be tweeted. Or argued on social media. You'd just get tied in knots.
Sadly, targeting extra money for the staff that actually were on the front line is impossible in an organisation the size of the NHS.
Which is a shame because I do think many of them did really step up.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

188 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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Not the NHS, "our NHS"... rolleyes

Slagathore

5,827 posts

194 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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A Winner Is You said:
Slagathore said:
Had an advert on Facebook last night from Labour - a video of a nurse about why the 1% pay increase is so bad.

Just desperate, emotionally manipulative stuff. I thought Starmer would be better than Corbyn for this sort of stuff, but obviously not.
Notice how it's always referred to as Nurse's pay, when it's actually the whole NHS.
Yeah, doesn't quite hit the same if they use admin staff hehe

shed driver

2,214 posts

162 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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T6 vanman said:
If your feeling brave you could reply that the 1% is the band uplift for the year and that nurses will also receive an annual incremental pay increases within their banding and so will be receiving much more than 1%

Like I said ..If your feeling bravebiggrin
Not all staff get an annual increment, and it isn't automatic. All training has to be up to date, and once you reach the maximum pay band within that grade, that's it.

SD.

eccles

13,754 posts

224 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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Slagathore said:
Had an advert on Facebook last night from Labour - a video of a nurse about why the 1% pay increase is so bad.

Just desperate, emotionally manipulative stuff. I thought Starmer would be better than Corbyn for this sort of stuff, but obviously not.
My Mrs is a Staff Nurse, whilst she's not exactly happy about the amount, but she understands why and says she'd feel bad if they'd been given more.

Slagathore

5,827 posts

194 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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eccles said:
My Mrs is a Staff Nurse, whilst she's not exactly happy about the amount, but she understands why and says she'd feel bad if they'd been given more.
Yep, similar with the people I know, although, none of them would feel bad if they had more hehe But they are grateful for a job and despise the politicisation of the NHS. All the normal ones hate the clapping etc.

Starmer really should be using his expertise and knowledge of the legal system working out how to demolish Boris/Hancock on the things they actually have got wrong, starting with legality of all the VIP Lane contracts stuff and Hancock's deals for his pub landlord etc.

I hope that is quietly going on behind closed doors, but I won't hold my breathe.

bitchstewie

52,336 posts

212 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Hadn't even heard of this.

Hartlepool Labour MP Mike Hill quits, triggering red wall byelection

Interesting to see what happens.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

188 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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bhstewie said:
Hadn't even heard of this.

Hartlepool Labour MP Mike Hill quits, triggering red wall byelection

Interesting to see what happens.
Love the Guardian... "Tories may win, despite how rubbish they are..." rofl

williamp

19,328 posts

275 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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As ever with labour, there is more to the story

https://order-order.com/2020/03/02/hartlepool-mp-h...

Sexual harassment, readmitted to the party, and now the time for his tribunal is approaching, he decides to step aside. Stay classy, labour...

bitchstewie

52,336 posts

212 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Where do you start if you're Starmer.

Labour MP Nadia Whittome REFUSES to condemn protesters over night of violence in Bristol that left 20 officers injured and a police station trashed

When your MPs can't even say that setting fire to Police vans is wrong confused

Stick Legs

5,198 posts

167 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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This thread should be re-named 'Can Sir Keir Starmer SURVIVE the Labour Party?'.

turbobloke

104,657 posts

262 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Stick Legs said:
This thread should be re-named 'Can Sir Keir Starmer SURVIVE the Labour Party?'.
hehe

That said, politics is like Stingray - anything can happen in the next half hour.

Quisling

539 posts

41 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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bhstewie said:
Where do you start if you're Starmer.

Labour MP Nadia Whittome REFUSES to condemn protesters over night of violence in Bristol that left 20 officers injured and a police station trashed

When your MPs can't even say that setting fire to Police vans is wrong confused
WELL to be fair they were white police vans

loafer123

15,501 posts

217 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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Well at least he made me laugh this morning...time for a caption competition...



Quisling

539 posts

41 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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loafer123 said:
Well at least he made me laugh this morning...time for a caption competition...


he is like a budget version of justin trudeau but without the charisma

eliot

11,540 posts

256 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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loafer123 said:
Well at least he made me laugh this morning...time for a caption competition...


Hands up - who's got the superglue?

Vanden Saab

14,309 posts

76 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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loafer123 said:
Well at least he made me laugh this morning...time for a caption competition...


Now everyone will know what I stand for.

Touring442

3,096 posts

211 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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Quisling said:
he is like a budget version of justin trudeau but without the charisma
Genuine Tuesday morning LoL's, thank you!

98elise

27,019 posts

163 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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loafer123 said:
Well at least he made me laugh this morning...time for a caption competition...


Why does he always look so uncomfortable?

Captain Raymond Holt

12,232 posts

196 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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98elise said:
loafer123 said:
Well at least he made me laugh this morning...time for a caption competition...


Why does he always look so uncomfortable?
Needs a poo.

Always.
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