Brexit Poll 1/2/16
Poll: Brexit Poll 1/2/16
Total Members Polled: 1470
Discussion
turbobloke said:
Mario149 said:
Anyone else noticed that the poll initially showed ~70% voting to leave for the first week it was up but is now showing ~50%
Yes it was certainly well above 50% though if we add in 'leaning towards leave' it's still over 70%.Scuffers said:
anonymous said:
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I know what you mean, I think in the last month I have only meet one person that's in the remain camp, been a few don't knows, but almost all are for exit.Mind you, this is the same as before the GE in terms of finding a labour voter...
There are rarely comments on my Facebook about the referendum/EU, but when there are it's normally a liberal (often for me from someone quite academia/ivory tower) from school posting something pro-EU.
I sense this Brexit is getting a bit nasty. Having hinted that i'm not a fan of the EU in the past (probably during the Euro elections) one of my Italian colleagues was gloating at the falling £/Euro chart on his screen and made some gestures towards me. To which I blurted "Well at least we can devalue our currency!". This did not go down too well.
turbobloke said:
Mario149 said:
Anyone else noticed that the poll initially showed ~70% voting to leave for the first week it was up but is now showing ~50%
Yes it was certainly well above 50% though if we add in 'leaning towards leave' it's still over 70%.That would rule out outside influence, not sure if the mods could/would do it though.
gottans said:
Well so far I am confused, we have two choices stay with the re-negotiated terms or leave.
What exactly does leave mean? Does it mean leave the EU and be part of the EEA (European Economic Area) or be a completely separate country like the US or India, etc.
Thanks
What re negotiated terms? Unless the so called DEAL that CMD `won' is written into EU treaty, it can be rescinded at any time.What exactly does leave mean? Does it mean leave the EU and be part of the EEA (European Economic Area) or be a completely separate country like the US or India, etc.
Thanks
The EU has stated categorically that it is not going change any treaties anytime soon, if at all.
currybum said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
What re negotiated terms? Unless the so called DEAL that CMD `won' is written into EU treaty, it can be rescinded at any time.
The EU has stated categorically that it is not going change any treaties anytime soon, if at all.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35653155The EU has stated categorically that it is not going change any treaties anytime soon, if at all.
currybum said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
When dealing with a corrupt organization which has in the past stated it would amend its corrupt ways, `if' we give them extra billions of UK taxpayers cash every year, on top of the UK already being the second largest net contributor into EU coffers, but which then took the cash, and made no changes whatsoever to its corrupt ways, I would take nothing less than treaty change as being any kind of guarantee. The EU has stated there will be NO treaty change.
If you don't believe anything stated from EU officials, then there is really no discussion to be had with you.currybum said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
When dealing with a corrupt organization which has in the past stated it would amend its corrupt ways, `if' we give them extra billions of UK taxpayers cash every year, on top of the UK already being the second largest net contributor into EU coffers, but which then took the cash, and made no changes whatsoever to its corrupt ways, I would take nothing less than treaty change as being any kind of guarantee. The EU has stated there will be NO treaty change.
If you don't believe anything stated from EU officials, then there is really no discussion to be had with you.How can I believe anything stated from EU officials, with their factual track record of bullying, lies and corruption? The real wonder is that you, or anyone can find a way of believing `anything' they `say'.
currybum said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
When dealing with a corrupt organization which has in the past stated it would amend its corrupt ways, `if' we give them extra billions of UK taxpayers cash every year, on top of the UK already being the second largest net contributor into EU coffers, but which then took the cash, and made no changes whatsoever to its corrupt ways, I would take nothing less than treaty change as being any kind of guarantee. The EU has stated there will be NO treaty change.
If you don't believe anything stated from EU officials, then there is really no discussion to be had with you.http://order-order.com/2016/02/25/hungarian-pm-boa...
currybum said:
turbobloke said:
If so, surely it means that there's no (meaningful) discussion to be had with EU officials.
If you have an absolute position regardless of the detail of what is being said or other evidence then there is little point in having a discussion.Preconceived notions based on track record are resonably held, better known as background information.
currybum said:
turbobloke said:
If so, surely it means that there's no (meaningful) discussion to be had with EU officials.
If you have an absolute position regardless of the detail of what is being said or other evidence then there is little point in having a discussion.You can't have a meaningful discussion with anyone who has preconceived opinions based on ideology who are unlikely to ever change their mind regardless of changing evidence.
Mario149 said:
gottans said:
What exactly does leave mean? Does it mean leave the EU and be part of the EEA (European Economic Area) or be a completely separate country like the US or India, etc.
No-one knows yet....The actual opinion polls, now that we've had a few, look a bit different to the PH polls. Are we all out of touch here?
http://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/poll-of-p...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_...
http://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/poll-of-p...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_...
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