Will you continue to wear a mask in public after Jan 27th?

[anonymous-user]

Narcisus said:

Nickgnome said:

Narcisus said:

S600BSB said:

Ari said:

Sainsburys this morning. Face-covering Faithful are down to about 85%, saving the planet one fetid scrap of Esty fashion mask at a time.

It's progress I guess, but some of these people are going to be wearing these things for ever I suspect...

Everyone should stop judging others - we make our own decisions regarding what's best for our communities, family, self etc.

So I wore a mask on Friday night at the theatre in Leeds (along with 75% plus of the audience), then at the supermarket on Sat morning and on the train up to Edinburgh for the rugby, but didn't bother outside in the actual stadium for the match. I have also done a couple of LFTs since Thurs. We should all do our own assessment of risk, act accordingly and not judge.

Thankfully the infection rate is falling, but still nearly 900 per 100,000 where I am in the North.

Wasting your time on this thread

The same people that resented mandated Mask wearing now seem to resent the freedom of choice of those that feel in certain circumstances wish to continue wearing them.

They don't seem to be able to let it go, otherwise this thread would have dwindled away.

They have to have something to make life worthwhile Brexit then Covid and eagerly awaiting the next 'thing' to focus on.

Maybe some have resentment but I would suggest that for many it’s a difficulty in understanding why anyone would want to continue the farce that they make any difference in the real world.

In addition you have genuine concern for those that continue to wear them due to being scared senseless for the post two years by the various behavioural nudge units.

[S600BSB]

thiscocks said:

S600BSB said:

thiscocks said:

What about when covid rates are down further (due to less testing), will you suddenly not be worried about catching any other virus either?

Don't really know what you mean by that mate. Who wants to catch any virus? I certainly buy an annual flu jab and will continue to do so in the future. As I said before on the thread, I hope everyone takes a bit more notice of personal hygiene and space in future as a result of the pandemic.

So I guess there's a death rate number that your happy with for not wearing a mask?

Death rate? Of course not. Better to think in terms of infection rate surely. I will probably wear a mask at certain times in crowded indoor spaces until the rate comes down to something like where it was last summer. Hopefully it will fall quickly now.

[Nickgnome]

garyhun said:

Maybe some have resentment but I would suggest that for many it’s a difficulty in understanding why anyone would want to continue the farce that they make any difference in the real world.

In addition you have genuine concern for those that continue to wear them due to being scared senseless for the post two years by the various behavioural nudge units.

Except of course in other parts of the globe mask wearing at certain times is taken as a considerate behaviour and does not attract the opprobrium and even abuse that some here like to dish out.

When those largely far Eastern visitors come to our shores most just accept their behaviours. It's a pity that some here cannot.

[thiscocks]

S600BSB said:

thiscocks said:

S600BSB said:

thiscocks said:

What about when covid rates are down further (due to less testing), will you suddenly not be worried about catching any other virus either?

Don't really know what you mean by that mate. Who wants to catch any virus? I certainly buy an annual flu jab and will continue to do so in the future. As I said before on the thread, I hope everyone takes a bit more notice of personal hygiene and space in future as a result of the pandemic.

So I guess there's a death rate number that your happy with for not wearing a mask?

Death rate? Of course not. Better to think in terms of infection rate surely. I will probably wear a mask at certain times in crowded indoor spaces until the rate comes down to something like where it was last summer. Hopefully it will fall quickly now.

But no one tests for any other virus so its surely impossible to judge what a 'safe' infection rate is. The infection rate is purely based on how many people choose to test anyway, so you have to go on hospital admissions or deaths for a more realistic comparison to other illnesses.

[S600BSB]

thiscocks said:

S600BSB said:

thiscocks said:

S600BSB said:

thiscocks said:

What about when covid rates are down further (due to less testing), will you suddenly not be worried about catching any other virus either?

Don't really know what you mean by that mate. Who wants to catch any virus? I certainly buy an annual flu jab and will continue to do so in the future. As I said before on the thread, I hope everyone takes a bit more notice of personal hygiene and space in future as a result of the pandemic.

So I guess there's a death rate number that your happy with for not wearing a mask?

Death rate? Of course not. Better to think in terms of infection rate surely. I will probably wear a mask at certain times in crowded indoor spaces until the rate comes down to something like where it was last summer. Hopefully it will fall quickly now.

But no one tests for any other virus so its surely impossible to judge what a 'safe' infection rate is. The infection rate is purely based on how many people choose to test anyway, so you have to go on hospital admissions or deaths for a more realistic comparison to other illnesses.

I certainly get your point. It's back to us all assessing the risk for ourselves isn't it? I know so many people who got infected with the Omicron variant - way more than Delta etc. Hopefully they will soon be few and far between.

[Kermit power]

S600BSB said:

thiscocks said:

S600BSB said:

thiscocks said:

What about when covid rates are down further (due to less testing), will you suddenly not be worried about catching any other virus either?

Don't really know what you mean by that mate. Who wants to catch any virus? I certainly buy an annual flu jab and will continue to do so in the future. As I said before on the thread, I hope everyone takes a bit more notice of personal hygiene and space in future as a result of the pandemic.

So I guess there's a death rate number that your happy with for not wearing a mask?

Death rate? Of course not. Better to think in terms of infection rate surely. I will probably wear a mask at certain times in crowded indoor spaces until the rate comes down to something like where it was last summer. Hopefully it will fall quickly now.

What does the infection rate tell you without the death rate?

The daily infection rate in January last year peaked at 68,000. In January of this year, it peaked at 224,000.

In comparison, the seven day average deaths in January last year peaked at 1,250. This year, they peaked at 275.

In other words, last year, one person died for every 54.5 people infected, whereas this year it is one death for every 814.5 people infected.

Even allowing for there being more testing now than there was a year ago (which I'm not convinced of, as I don't know anyone still routinely taking LF tests now), you can't possibly take anything concrete from the infection rate alone at the moment.

[S600BSB]

Kermit power said:

What does the infection rate tell you without the death rate?

The daily infection rate in January last year peaked at 68,000. In January of this year, it peaked at 224,000.

In comparison, the seven day average deaths in January last year peaked at 1,250. This year, they peaked at 275.

In other words, last year, one person died for every 54.5 people infected, whereas this year it is one death for every 814.5 people infected.

Even allowing for there being more testing now than there was a year ago (which I'm not convinced of, as I don't know anyone still routinely taking LF tests now), you can't possibly take anything concrete from the infection rate alone at the moment.

But nor can you from the death rate given that we know Omicron causes far fewer deaths and has been the dominant strain now for a while.

Bottom line is that I haven't had Covid (I do a LTF usually twice a week) and don't want to get it. I have houses in the UK and France so travel between the two frequently - when the Franch let us in - so it would be an inconvenience to get it. I also like working, and don't want that disrupted by the virus either. It pays for my cars - which is still why I primarily come on PH!

As I have said before, I will do my risk assessment and act accordingly, hopefully for the benefit of my community, family and self. You do the same.

[Dastardly Dick]

S600BSB said:

Everyone should stop judging others - we make our own decisions regarding what's best for our communities, family, self etc.

Good advice indeed.
Pity it wasnt taken up by the media and jabbers calling unvaccinated people filthy, spreaders, driving this pandemic, threatning restrictions on us unless we complied and similarly towards non masked people etc....

But now its proven to have all been a big hypefest we're the ones who arent allowed to judge some fool wearing old spandex knickers across their front facing exhaust orifice?
Pardon me if I dont get all chummy with the likes of those who subjected us to the aforementioned behaviours.

[S600BSB]

Dastardly Dick said:

S600BSB said:

Everyone should stop judging others - we make our own decisions regarding what's best for our communities, family, self etc.

Good advice indeed.
Pity it wasnt taken up by the media and jabbers calling unvaccinated people filthy, spreaders, driving this pandemic, threatning restrictions on us unless we complied and similarly towards non masked people etc....

But now its proven to have all been a big hypefest we're the ones who arent allowed to judge some fool wearing old spandex knickers across their front facing exhaust orifice?
Pardon me if I dont get all chummy with the likes of those who subjected us to the aforementioned behaviours.

Agree with you about the media.

[Ari]

S600BSB said:

Don't really know what you mean by that mate. Who wants to catch any virus? I certainly buy an annual flu jab and will continue to do so in the future. As I said before on the thread, I hope everyone takes a bit more notice of personal hygiene and space in future as a result of the pandemic.

Ah, understood. I assumed the mask thing was something new since the Covid thing, but if you're also concerned about Flu, you've presumably been wearing masks in supermarkets for many years?

You know, what with your our own assessment of risk, acting accordingly and all that?

[Ari]

hyphen said:

Ari said:

Sainsburys this morning. Face-covering Faithful are down to about 85%, saving the planet one fetid scrap of Esty fashion mask at a time.

It's progress I guess, but some of these people are going to be wearing these things for ever I suspect...

How were the staff? As in my nearby Sainsburys and Waitrose I have noticed that despite the company coming out for masks, they aren't enforcing their own staff who are 50-50.

Vast majority were not bothering at all. Maybe 5% of the staff were peering over their bits of Esty cloth, the rest were just getting on with their life and their work.

[Nickgnome]

Ari said:

Ah, understood. I assumed the mask thing was something new since the Covid thing, but if you're also concerned about Flu, you've presumably been wearing masks in supermarkets for many years?

You know, what with your our own assessment of risk, acting accordingly and all that?

Live and learn . Unlike some.

Now will you stop with your inane comments to those who do not hold the same view as you.

[S600BSB]

Ari said:

S600BSB said:

Don't really know what you mean by that mate. Who wants to catch any virus? I certainly buy an annual flu jab and will continue to do so in the future. As I said before on the thread, I hope everyone takes a bit more notice of personal hygiene and space in future as a result of the pandemic.

Ah, understood. I assumed the mask thing was something new since the Covid thing, but if you're also concerned about Flu, you've presumably been wearing masks in supermarkets for many years?

You know, what with your our own assessment of risk, acting accordingly and all that?

No. Evidence I have read suggests Omicron is far more transmissible than flu mate. I obviously wouldn't want to have flu, but again it's about understanding and assessing risk. Not complicated.

[Vanden Saab]

Ari said:

S600BSB said:

Don't really know what you mean by that mate. Who wants to catch any virus? I certainly buy an annual flu jab and will continue to do so in the future. As I said before on the thread, I hope everyone takes a bit more notice of personal hygiene and space in future as a result of the pandemic.

Ah, understood. I assumed the mask thing was something new since the Covid thing, but if you're also concerned about Flu, you've presumably been wearing masks in supermarkets for many years?

You know, what with your our own assessment of risk, acting accordingly and all that?

[SWoll]

Nickgnome said:

Live and learn . Unlike some.

Now will you stop with your inane comments to those who do not hold the same view as you.

I don't think you've learned a thing in the past 2 years Nick, unlike most.

Ditto on the inane comments BTW, people in glass houses and all that.

[Lotusgone]

Nickgnome said:

Ari said:

Ah, understood. I assumed the mask thing was something new since the Covid thing, but if you're also concerned about Flu, you've presumably been wearing masks in supermarkets for many years?

You know, what with your our own assessment of risk, acting accordingly and all that?

Live and learn . Unlike some.

Now will you stop with your inane comments to those who do not hold the same view as you.

I agree with Ari. Where were your masks when, in 2019, over 26000 died of flu & pneumonia in the UK? (Office of National Statistics, if you're interested)

[SWoll]

Lotusgone said:

Nickgnome said:

Ari said:

Ah, understood. I assumed the mask thing was something new since the Covid thing, but if you're also concerned about Flu, you've presumably been wearing masks in supermarkets for many years?

You know, what with your our own assessment of risk, acting accordingly and all that?

Live and learn . Unlike some.

Now will you stop with your inane comments to those who do not hold the same view as you.

I agree with Ari. Where were your masks when, in 2019, over 26000 died of flu & pneumonia in the UK? (Office of National Statistics, if you're interested)

Still being made into curtains and tablecloths I'd imagine.

[Biker 1]

I had an interesting discussion with a relative last night over supper. She said she was only carrying on with the mask theatrics in supermarkets to 'reassure others who are obviously scared', despite the fact that she is triple vaxxed & had covid over Christmas so highly unlikely to be a super spreader. I asked how long she would continue but the answer was 'when everybody else stops wearing them'.
This going round in circles with some piece of old rag on your bonce is getting somewhat ridiculous now.

[Ari]

Lotusgone said:

I agree with Ari. Where were your masks when, in 2019, over 26000 died of flu & pneumonia in the UK? (Office of National Statistics, if you're interested)

Exactly!

But of course mask wearing wasn't a religion in 2019, if you'd suggested wearing one in a supermarket back then, all the people wearing them now would have been baffled at the notion.

Incredible how easily lead some people are.

[Ari]

Nickgnome said:

Live and learn . Unlike some.

Now will you stop with your inane comments to those who do not hold the same view as you.

The needle of my irony meter just snapped!