Sycamore gap tree felled - Words Fail Me
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Previous said:
No chance of an example being made.
The same week as this tree felling story, the teenager who went armed with a knife to school and stabbed his teacher in the abdomen, recently in Tewkesbury, was sentenced.
He'd text family to say sorry in advance, and called 999 to tell them what he was about to do - so clear planning and intent.
He got 14 months.
What do we reckon a criminal damage charge (at best) will get?
Write a letter to say sorry and pick up litter for an afternoon?
He will probably get 24 months.The same week as this tree felling story, the teenager who went armed with a knife to school and stabbed his teacher in the abdomen, recently in Tewkesbury, was sentenced.
He'd text family to say sorry in advance, and called 999 to tell them what he was about to do - so clear planning and intent.
He got 14 months.
What do we reckon a criminal damage charge (at best) will get?
Write a letter to say sorry and pick up litter for an afternoon?
Sentencing for some crimes is just a joke in the UK.
Silvanus said:
Pit Pony said:
Silvanus said:
119 said:
All this over a tree?
It's not jus a tree though is it, I think that would be pretty clear by now. It may not mean anything to you, but it does to a large number of people.By the nature of its surroundings, it formed a focal point of the landscape, visited by many people over the years for various reasons & was the subject of some fantastic photographs.
That notwithstanding, it was still just a tree.
If you have personal memories associated, then fair enough.
There are millions of dogs & cats in the world, tens of thousands die daily unnoticed. When it is your own pet though, it rips you apart.
Similarly many elderly folks pass away every day, but when its one of your grandparents it hits differently.
For the vast majority who have no connection, it will be just a tree.
OzzyR1 said:
Putting personal emotions aside, the poster above is right - it is/was just a tree.
By the nature of its surroundings, it formed a focal point of the landscape, visited by many people over the years for various reasons & was the subject of some fantastic photographs.
That notwithstanding, it was still just a tree.
If you have personal memories associated, then fair enough.
There are millions of dogs & cats in the world, tens of thousands die daily unnoticed. When it is your own pet though, it rips you apart.
Similarly many elderly folks pass away every day, but when its one of your grandparents it hits differently.
For the vast majority who have no connection, it will be just a tree.
But it didn’t just die.By the nature of its surroundings, it formed a focal point of the landscape, visited by many people over the years for various reasons & was the subject of some fantastic photographs.
That notwithstanding, it was still just a tree.
If you have personal memories associated, then fair enough.
There are millions of dogs & cats in the world, tens of thousands die daily unnoticed. When it is your own pet though, it rips you apart.
Similarly many elderly folks pass away every day, but when its one of your grandparents it hits differently.
For the vast majority who have no connection, it will be just a tree.
If someone’s pet or grandparent were killed in what appeared to be an unprovoked, motiveless attack, it would make the news.
Appears proportionate reporting in that respect,
Edited by vladcjelli on Monday 2nd October 05:21
OzzyR1 said:
Silvanus said:
Pit Pony said:
Silvanus said:
119 said:
All this over a tree?
It's not jus a tree though is it, I think that would be pretty clear by now. It may not mean anything to you, but it does to a large number of people.By the nature of its surroundings, it formed a focal point of the landscape, visited by many people over the years for various reasons & was the subject of some fantastic photographs.
That notwithstanding, it was still just a tree.
If you have personal memories associated, then fair enough.
There are millions of dogs & cats in the world, tens of thousands die daily unnoticed. When it is your own pet though, it rips you apart.
Similarly many elderly folks pass away every day, but when its one of your grandparents it hits differently.
For the vast majority who have no connection, it will be just a tree.
Meanwhile vast swathes of jungle and habitat are getting flattened in Asia and nobody here really gives a toss, but the felling of this tree has caused national outrage because essentially, people liked to look at it.
Mindless and disgusting vandalism yes, but the reaction has been somewhat overdramatic.
Mindless and disgusting vandalism yes, but the reaction has been somewhat overdramatic.
foxbody-87 said:
Meanwhile vast swathes of jungle and habitat are getting flattened in Asia and nobody here really gives a toss, but the felling of this tree has caused national outrage because essentially, people liked to look at it.
Mindless and disgusting vandalism yes, but the reaction has been somewhat overdramatic.
Speak for yourself, plenty of people give a toss about the worlds deforestation, I for one do, I also give a toss about the UK's trees too . This however, is about something else, it's about a landmark tree.Mindless and disgusting vandalism yes, but the reaction has been somewhat overdramatic.
Oliver Hardy said:
Previous said:
No chance of an example being made.
The same week as this tree felling story, the teenager who went armed with a knife to school and stabbed his teacher in the abdomen, recently in Tewkesbury, was sentenced.
He'd text family to say sorry in advance, and called 999 to tell them what he was about to do - so clear planning and intent.
He got 14 months.
What do we reckon a criminal damage charge (at best) will get?
Write a letter to say sorry and pick up litter for an afternoon?
He will probably get 24 months.The same week as this tree felling story, the teenager who went armed with a knife to school and stabbed his teacher in the abdomen, recently in Tewkesbury, was sentenced.
He'd text family to say sorry in advance, and called 999 to tell them what he was about to do - so clear planning and intent.
He got 14 months.
What do we reckon a criminal damage charge (at best) will get?
Write a letter to say sorry and pick up litter for an afternoon?
Sentencing for some crimes is just a joke in the UK.
foxbody-87 said:
Meanwhile vast swathes of jungle and habitat are getting flattened in Asia and nobody here really gives a toss, but the felling of this tree has caused national outrage because essentially, people liked to look at it.
Mindless and disgusting vandalism yes, but the reaction has been somewhat overdramatic.
Don't judge everyone by your own low standards. Plenty of us are horrified about the loss of forest and habitat in many parts of the world. Mindless and disgusting vandalism yes, but the reaction has been somewhat overdramatic.
S600BSB said:
Oliver Hardy said:
Previous said:
No chance of an example being made.
The same week as this tree felling story, the teenager who went armed with a knife to school and stabbed his teacher in the abdomen, recently in Tewkesbury, was sentenced.
He'd text family to say sorry in advance, and called 999 to tell them what he was about to do - so clear planning and intent.
He got 14 months.
What do we reckon a criminal damage charge (at best) will get?
Write a letter to say sorry and pick up litter for an afternoon?
He will probably get 24 months.The same week as this tree felling story, the teenager who went armed with a knife to school and stabbed his teacher in the abdomen, recently in Tewkesbury, was sentenced.
He'd text family to say sorry in advance, and called 999 to tell them what he was about to do - so clear planning and intent.
He got 14 months.
What do we reckon a criminal damage charge (at best) will get?
Write a letter to say sorry and pick up litter for an afternoon?
Sentencing for some crimes is just a joke in the UK.
otolith said:
Randy Winkman said:
And imagine if someone deliberately wrecked a Picasso or a Le Mans winning D-Type Jag? Would that be OK because they are just a painting and an old car?
JSO had a go at wrecking some paintings. I seem to remember that it generated some news reports and outrage.
Pit Pony said:
Silvanus said:
119 said:
All this over a tree?
It's not jus a tree though is it, I think that would be pretty clear by now. It may not mean anything to you, but it does to a large number of people.98elise said:
Pit Pony said:
Silvanus said:
119 said:
All this over a tree?
It's not jus a tree though is it, I think that would be pretty clear by now. It may not mean anything to you, but it does to a large number of people.Bonefish Blues said:
They made a bit of a show of squirting ketchup onto the protective glass TBF - I don't think they wanted to do any damage. All very middle class
They did damage the frame of the Van Gogh a bit by gluing themselves to it, but yeah, nothing irreplaceable destroyed - lots of people cared, though. 
Randy Winkman said:
And imagine if someone deliberately wrecked a Picasso or a Le Mans winning D-Type Jag? Would that be OK because they are just a painting and an old car?
Please tell me I'm not the only one who read that and thought who cares about a Citroen Picasso before realising what you actually meant.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff