Your voting intentions
Poll: Your voting intentions
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Discussion
Rivenink said:
Castrol for a knave said:
JagLover said:
Dagnir said:
If you think the population of this country is as happy, fulfilled, stable, trustworthy, secure, safe, relaxed, prosperous etc. Etc. Etc. (You get the idea)......then you're simply living in a different country.
Focusing on a few modern, hot topics of social inequality (that were in their time far less here than most other countries!) in an attempt to drag down the past to justify your progressive mindset, is completely reductive, wholly misplaced and utterly contemptible.
That seems true enoughFocusing on a few modern, hot topics of social inequality (that were in their time far less here than most other countries!) in an attempt to drag down the past to justify your progressive mindset, is completely reductive, wholly misplaced and utterly contemptible.
People seem to think they are living in more progressive times due to a few social issues as you highlight. There are two main problems with this however. Firstly that they are often imported from America, and American issues do not translate so well to here where the fundamental issue was always class rather than race. Secondly we are slowly transitioning from a mass middle class society to one that is far more stratified by wealth. So economically we are not becoming more progressive and comparing now to the 1990s shows stark differences.
This has, to an extent, been diverted by vested interests on the left and the right, arguing about whether my hamster can be gender fluid.
I agree regarding your comment about wealth. There is an element of society that is accelerating away and that's partly due to inherited wealth and partly due to opportunities provided to them by way of education and connections, that a good many will never see and never be able to leverage.
It's all about creating every single distraction they can to divert attention away from the primary issue affecting everyones lives: the systematic transfer of wealth to the wealthiest in society. Keep them too busy raging about migrants and transgender people to think about where the hundreds and hundreds of billions of pounds of Quantative Easing ended up.
This is why democracy is dead, they're not really even trying to keep up the pretence any more.
Rivenink said:
This is what the culture wars are all about, and why the Government has been so keen on stoking them.
It's all about creating every single distraction they can to divert attention away from the primary issue affecting everyones lives: the systematic transfer of wealth to the wealthiest in society. Keep them too busy raging about migrants and transgender people to think about where the hundreds and hundreds of billions of pounds of Quantative Easing ended up.
It's all about creating every single distraction they can to divert attention away from the primary issue affecting everyones lives: the systematic transfer of wealth to the wealthiest in society. Keep them too busy raging about migrants and transgender people to think about where the hundreds and hundreds of billions of pounds of Quantative Easing ended up.
chrispmartha said:
Jordie Barretts sock said:
Silvanus said:
cossy400 said:
So SKS is now doubting his manifesto and saying it might not happen due to the Tories ruining the economy.
It's nothing new to lie I suppose.
Which manifesto is this? Labour haven't released their manifesto yet. It's nothing new to lie I suppose.
That's the paraphrase anyway.
Would you prefer them to lie to you and promise the earth?
Rishi and his 5 point plan etc
Now it ll be SKS and his bo$£%ks
Id scrap the lot of them and have one lot so we didnt have to listen to the childish chanting in the commons and they just got on with it.
jshell said:
I can't quite figure who the good and who the bad guys are any more.
But, I suppose that Trudeau inviting a literal Waffen SS member into the Canadian parliament didn't do him any damage, so this might not ruffle too many feathers.
How TF did we get here?
It's the old thing that more than one thing can be true at once isn't it.But, I suppose that Trudeau inviting a literal Waffen SS member into the Canadian parliament didn't do him any damage, so this might not ruffle too many feathers.
How TF did we get here?
You can absolutely support Ukraine fighting Russia's invasion and accept that means some pretty s
tty people will be involved in that fighting.Accepting it doesn't mean that you have to welcome literal neo-nazi's into Parliament and be photographed with them holding their flag and call them “heroes”.
What on earth was Johnson thinking.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:jshell said:
I can't quite figure who the good and who the bad guys are any more.
But, I suppose that Trudeau inviting a literal Waffen SS member into the Canadian parliament didn't do him any damage, so this might not ruffle too many feathers.
How TF did we get here?
It's the old thing that more than one thing can be true at once isn't it.But, I suppose that Trudeau inviting a literal Waffen SS member into the Canadian parliament didn't do him any damage, so this might not ruffle too many feathers.
How TF did we get here?
You can absolutely support Ukraine fighting Russia's invasion and accept that means some pretty s
tty people will be involved in that fighting.Accepting it doesn't mean that you have to welcome literal neo-nazi's into Parliament and be photographed with them holding their flag and call them “heroes”.
What on earth was Johnson thinking.
Jordie Barretts sock said:
Ta. Didnt realise that was today.
That'll make things interesting.
119 said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:jshell said:
I can't quite figure who the good and who the bad guys are any more.
But, I suppose that Trudeau inviting a literal Waffen SS member into the Canadian parliament didn't do him any damage, so this might not ruffle too many feathers.
How TF did we get here?
It's the old thing that more than one thing can be true at once isn't it.But, I suppose that Trudeau inviting a literal Waffen SS member into the Canadian parliament didn't do him any damage, so this might not ruffle too many feathers.
How TF did we get here?
You can absolutely support Ukraine fighting Russia's invasion and accept that means some pretty s
tty people will be involved in that fighting.Accepting it doesn't mean that you have to welcome literal neo-nazi's into Parliament and be photographed with them holding their flag and call them “heroes”.
What on earth was Johnson thinking.
Jordie Barretts sock said:
Silvanus said:
Jordie Barretts sock said:
You would think so. They surely realise with Reform's vote share, they are neck and neck with Labour.
I think you over estimate Reforms vote shareLabour ~ 42%
Con ~ 25%
Ref ~ 12%
Reform will go the same way as UKIP, lots of votes, no seats.
Jordie Barretts sock said:
Silvanus said:
Jordie Barretts sock said:
You would think so. They surely realise with Reform's vote share, they are neck and neck with Labour.
I think you over estimate Reforms vote shareLabour ~ 42%
Con ~ 25%
Ref ~ 12%
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