Nurses, Rail Staff and Now Driving Examiners
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oyster said:
I walked past a huge crowd of striking nurses today at a major London hospital. They were singing a few Katie Perry numbers and seemed to be in very high spirits. With the klaxons, flags, singing, joy and dancing it felt like a real party atmosphere there.
Just a pity some poor folk are in pain a bit longer as they had their treatments cancelled so the nurses could throw a street party.
Workers united and displaying camaraderie? bJust a pity some poor folk are in pain a bit longer as they had their treatments cancelled so the nurses could throw a street party.
ds. They should work for tuppence and be happyCoolHands said:
oyster said:
I walked past a huge crowd of striking nurses today at a major London hospital. They were singing a few Katie Perry numbers and seemed to be in very high spirits. With the klaxons, flags, singing, joy and dancing it felt like a real party atmosphere there.
Just a pity some poor folk are in pain a bit longer as they had their treatments cancelled so the nurses could throw a street party.
Workers united and displaying camaraderie? bJust a pity some poor folk are in pain a bit longer as they had their treatments cancelled so the nurses could throw a street party.
ds. They should work for tuppence and be happyThis is the modern way of striking. In the 70s and 80s unions went all out. It increased the disruption but was tough for members. Probably not feasible now when more people have mortgages.
Most people can get by with losing a day or two pay. On the other hand there is less pressure on the govt to cave in.
The schools strike is interesting. Covid proved that schools for example can shut for months without affecting education much. Grades actually went up as I recall. So I'm not sure a day or two a month will have much effect.
Pupils that want to learn can study at home for the odd day without huge effects I'm sure.
(of course the grades increase was obviously the effect of teachers marking their own homework)
https://news.stv.tv/scotland/exam-pass-rates-impro...
Most people can get by with losing a day or two pay. On the other hand there is less pressure on the govt to cave in.
The schools strike is interesting. Covid proved that schools for example can shut for months without affecting education much. Grades actually went up as I recall. So I'm not sure a day or two a month will have much effect.
Pupils that want to learn can study at home for the odd day without huge effects I'm sure.
(of course the grades increase was obviously the effect of teachers marking their own homework)
https://news.stv.tv/scotland/exam-pass-rates-impro...
The schools strike could be really self defeating.
The pupils who want to learn have access to so much material now, they may well end up ahead, since there won't be any disruption from the other pupils (or teachers). My employer, and probably lots of others, is making arrangements to cope with the schools being out again. From flexible working and split shifts to some offices organising their own "schools" on a rota system.
I've heard lots of teachers tell me they feel more like they are just providing day care for disruptive brats - who are exactly the children that won't be learning anything during the strike days and almost certainly won't benefit from any ad-hoc schooling that gets setup. So we'll end up with a situation where the disruptive ones fall massively behind, far more than they are already.
Leading to a real breakdown in the ability to manage the classes and making the teachers job ten times harder.
The pupils who want to learn have access to so much material now, they may well end up ahead, since there won't be any disruption from the other pupils (or teachers). My employer, and probably lots of others, is making arrangements to cope with the schools being out again. From flexible working and split shifts to some offices organising their own "schools" on a rota system.
I've heard lots of teachers tell me they feel more like they are just providing day care for disruptive brats - who are exactly the children that won't be learning anything during the strike days and almost certainly won't benefit from any ad-hoc schooling that gets setup. So we'll end up with a situation where the disruptive ones fall massively behind, far more than they are already.
Leading to a real breakdown in the ability to manage the classes and making the teachers job ten times harder.
pquinn said:
irc said:
The schools strike is interesting. Covid proved that schools for example can shut for months without affecting education much. Grades actually went up as I recall.
Only problem is that any 'improvement' was a load of smoke & mirrors. mikal83 said:
and as usual the Military will do the firemans job for them. Of course, those Soldiers, Sailors and Airman, are paid less than the fireman.
Military will never be able to do the job as good as the firemen. All that shell shock is dreadful on the nerves and it makes the cutting in really difficult and wobbly. poo at Paul's said:
mikal83 said:
and as usual the Military will do the firemans job for them. Of course, those Soldiers, Sailors and Airman, are paid less than the fireman.
Military will never be able to do the job as good as the firemen. All that shell shock is dreadful on the nerves and it makes the cutting in really difficult and wobbly. mikal83 said:
poo at Paul's said:
mikal83 said:
and as usual the Military will do the firemans job for them. Of course, those Soldiers, Sailors and Airman, are paid less than the fireman.
Military will never be able to do the job as good as the firemen. All that shell shock is dreadful on the nerves and it makes the cutting in really difficult and wobbly. (Firemen & their second jobs if you need a hint)
pquinn said:
mikal83 said:
poo at Paul's said:
mikal83 said:
and as usual the Military will do the firemans job for them. Of course, those Soldiers, Sailors and Airman, are paid less than the fireman.
Military will never be able to do the job as good as the firemen. All that shell shock is dreadful on the nerves and it makes the cutting in really difficult and wobbly. (Firemen & their second jobs if you need a hint)
mikal83 said:
and as usual the Military will do the firemans job for them. Of course, those Soldiers, Sailors and Airman, are paid less than the fireman.
Fire station accomodation is way better than much of the defence estate, benefits of a good union... Like a mini-break with future career training.Evanivitch said:
mikal83 said:
and as usual the Military will do the firemans job for them. Of course, those Soldiers, Sailors and Airman, are paid less than the fireman.
Fire station accomodation is way better than much of the defence estate, benefits of a good union... Like a mini-break with future career training.pablo said:
Next time you’re in A&E, tell the paramedics and nursing staff they’re not worth £2k a month whilst you cling to the fact that they are the only ones who can keep you or a loved one alive…..
So, everyone is an and e is going to die then? And has their lives saved by someone on less than 24k a year. ….Right
More hyperbolic nonsense.
Edited by poo at Paul's on Wednesday 8th February 20:11
mikal83 said:
Oh it was "a joke"...........oh OK.
Ask your mummy to explain it to you, maybe? Let us all praise the re self appointed joke police person. Where should be submit our humorous offerings for your approval?
The full address please.
I have Mrs B Chop, 49 Walt Street, Safespace, Wokesville, but need the postcode.
poo at Paul's said:
pablo said:
Next time you’re in A&E, tell the paramedics and nursing staff they’re not worth £2k a month whilst you cling to the fact that they are the only ones who can keep you or a loved one alive…..
So, everyone is an and e is going to die then? And has their lives saved by someone on less than 24k a year. ….Right
More hyperbolic nonsense.
Edited by poo at Paul's on Wednesday 8th February 20:11
One guy had a small fishing hook in his thumb. Another had cut his thumb on a kitchen knife.
I didn't see the knife cut, but he was acting quite normally. My message to the fishing hook guy - man the f
k up. Cut the hook with a pair of pliers and pull it through.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff