Lee Anderson MP
Discussion
LF5335 said:
crankedup5 said:
very good.However I distinctly remember many posters in here giving their considered opinions on the Boris election chances, most wrong of course as it transpired. Except me of course! I resisted any comment back then.
James6112 said:
LF5335 said:
crankedup5 said:
very good.However I distinctly remember many posters in here giving their considered opinions on the Boris election chances, most wrong of course as it transpired. Except me of course! I resisted any comment back then.
.He had some internet issues resulting in a new log in. (Took him 5 attempts though hence the username. I told you he was old!)
No offence Cranked
i am personally devastated that Lee has left the Tories.
I do feel its a good move for Reform. They now have Lee as one of their own and this can only benefit them
His high profile as TV presenter will shine light on them.
Also as I hinted elsewhere Lee is likely to get the tea time slot on GB News at least 2 times a week. It's a big departure for GB news who are desperate to capture more of an audience. Lee is thought to come across a s both a good presenter and connects to the audience.
The new show tentatively called Tea with Lee will also include the cookery segment that Lee is very keen on. It will be a mix of ;politics and cooking on a budget.
I do feel its a good move for Reform. They now have Lee as one of their own and this can only benefit them
His high profile as TV presenter will shine light on them.
Also as I hinted elsewhere Lee is likely to get the tea time slot on GB News at least 2 times a week. It's a big departure for GB news who are desperate to capture more of an audience. Lee is thought to come across a s both a good presenter and connects to the audience.
The new show tentatively called Tea with Lee will also include the cookery segment that Lee is very keen on. It will be a mix of ;politics and cooking on a budget.
anonymoususer said:
i am personally devastated that Lee has left the Tories.
I do feel its a good move for Reform. They now have Lee as one of their own and this can only benefit them
His high profile as TV presenter will shine light on them.
Also as I hinted elsewhere Lee is likely to get the tea time slot on GB News at least 2 times a week. It's a big departure for GB news who are desperate to capture more of an audience. Lee is thought to come across a s both a good presenter and connects to the audience.
The new show tentatively called Tea with Lee will also include the cookery segment that Lee is very keen on. It will be a mix of ;politics and cooking on a budget.
I do feel its a good move for Reform. They now have Lee as one of their own and this can only benefit them
His high profile as TV presenter will shine light on them.
Also as I hinted elsewhere Lee is likely to get the tea time slot on GB News at least 2 times a week. It's a big departure for GB news who are desperate to capture more of an audience. Lee is thought to come across a s both a good presenter and connects to the audience.
The new show tentatively called Tea with Lee will also include the cookery segment that Lee is very keen on. It will be a mix of ;politics and cooking on a budget.
unrepentant said:
crankedup5 said:
S600BSB said:
unrepentant said:
crankedup5 said:
It will be interesting to see which way his ‘red wall’ constituents vote in the GE. Traditional Labour voters who wanted to ‘get brexit done’ and a strong wish to control U.K. borders voted for Tory Party 2019. Now Labour are showing less interest in control of U.K. borders will Anderson be re-elected under the Refom U.K. rosette. Almost certainly as the Tory and Labour squabble over the same square yard of meadow.
It's far more likely that the right wing bigot vote will be split between the Tories and 30p Lee and Labour will sail through the middle and win easily.Hopefully there will be a few more defections to the Farage / Tice Ltd company scam masquerading as a political party and the Tories will lose even more seats to Labour.
If the Tories have lost people like Mum they're doomed.
valiant said:
James6112 said:
LF5335 said:
crankedup5 said:
very good.However I distinctly remember many posters in here giving their considered opinions on the Boris election chances, most wrong of course as it transpired. Except me of course! I resisted any comment back then.
.He had some internet issues resulting in a new log in. (Took him 5 attempts though hence the username. I told you he was old!)
No offence Cranked
Dang, I was ready to enjoy a continuance of wrong assumptions being made by a few posters who think they are being clever.
No offence taken, some posters in here are becoming ever more curious regarding my age, why I do not know why that interest is and for what purpose.
With it being the internet, I had to check this quote was real. Alas, it is:
Reading their website is like gammon bingo. The party for those who've failed at life and need to blame others for their own failure (I can also see why it'd be a protest vote against the Conservatives, but as others have pointed out, that likely just helps Labour).
Reading their website is like gammon bingo. The party for those who've failed at life and need to blame others for their own failure (I can also see why it'd be a protest vote against the Conservatives, but as others have pointed out, that likely just helps Labour).
MrBogSmith said:
With it being the internet, I had to check this quote was real. Alas, it is:
Reading their website is like gammon bingo. The party for those who've failed at life and need to blame others for their own failure.
Don't be a loser vote Tory or Labour then you only have yourself to blame, it has a ring to it. Reading their website is like gammon bingo. The party for those who've failed at life and need to blame others for their own failure.
Why do clever people think insulting people who they think are obviously beneath them is ever going to have any sucess. You would think their cleverness would give them the ability to look back at the many failures this attitude has achieved but no.
It also shows an amusing lack of understanding of politics, look at what Cameron said about the lib dems before going into coalition with them or Starmers ever changing view about Corbyn.
An understanding of politics is a good thing. Critical thinking is a major assett. When it comes to reform, that distills down to the realisation that public school educated multi millionaires, Tice, Farage & Habib are not in fact champions of the working class.
Instead, what they are up to is pretending to be anti establishment for their own ends & the mechanism they use is distorting the blame for very real issues by placing it squarely on the other, the voiceless, the weakest, the least able to stand up for themselves.
It's a play as old as Methuselah, take something complex & over simplify it. I'm sorry if pointing this out makes some people resentful, as it clearly does but it is nevertheless exactly what they are doing & the more people realise this the faster we heal.
Instead, what they are up to is pretending to be anti establishment for their own ends & the mechanism they use is distorting the blame for very real issues by placing it squarely on the other, the voiceless, the weakest, the least able to stand up for themselves.
It's a play as old as Methuselah, take something complex & over simplify it. I'm sorry if pointing this out makes some people resentful, as it clearly does but it is nevertheless exactly what they are doing & the more people realise this the faster we heal.
President Merkin said:
An understanding of politics is a good thing. Critical thinking is a major assett. When it comes to reform, that distills down to the realisation that public school educated multi millionaires, Tice, Farage & Habib are not in fact champions of the working class.
Instead, what they are up to is pretending to be anti establishment for their own ends & the mechanism they use is distorting the blame for very real issues by placing it squarely on the other, the voiceless, the weakest, the least able to stand up for themselves.
It's a play as old as Methuselah, take something complex & over simplify it. I'm sorry if pointing this out makes some people resentful, as it clearly does but it is nevertheless exactly what they are doing & the more people realise this the faster we heal.
There is no working class anymore and your characterisation of people you fail to understand is pitiful. Thinking that you are going to heal anything by Instead, what they are up to is pretending to be anti establishment for their own ends & the mechanism they use is distorting the blame for very real issues by placing it squarely on the other, the voiceless, the weakest, the least able to stand up for themselves.
It's a play as old as Methuselah, take something complex & over simplify it. I'm sorry if pointing this out makes some people resentful, as it clearly does but it is nevertheless exactly what they are doing & the more people realise this the faster we heal.
Insulting those you disagree with seems like the perfect plan. If only we were cleverer we would think like you.
Vanden Saab said:
MrBogSmith said:
With it being the internet, I had to check this quote was real. Alas, it is:
Reading their website is like gammon bingo. The party for those who've failed at life and need to blame others for their own failure.
Don't be a loser vote Tory or Labour then you only have yourself to blame, it has a ring to it. Reading their website is like gammon bingo. The party for those who've failed at life and need to blame others for their own failure.
Why do clever people think insulting people who they think are obviously beneath them is ever going to have any sucess. You would think their cleverness would give them the ability to look back at the many failures this attitude has achieved but no.
It also shows an amusing lack of understanding of politics, look at what Cameron said about the lib dems before going into coalition with them or Starmers ever changing view about Corbyn.
I don't think it requires much intelligence to realise that when Reform UK propose 'common sense' as a solution to problems, that their approaches probably aren't going to translate into the real, complex world.
My view is that simplistic popularism is targeted at and attracts those disenfranchised, those who feel left behind and a sense of anger and injustice at 'the elite' (often conflated with successful people). On the whole, those who life is working out we they want don't feel the need for wide-spread, fundamental reform, because it works for them.
Lee is a cretin and a hypocrite and has done the Conservative no favours.
The Lib Dems and their coalition achievement is a world away from anything Reform UK will achieve. UKIP, in a parliamentary not Brexit context, were unsuccessful, even when they received 3.8 million votes in 2015. And that was with a clear, appealing and effective leader.
Vanden Saab said:
There is no working class anymore and your characterisation of people you fail to understand is pitiful. Thinking that you are going to heal anything by
Insulting those you disagree with seems like the perfect plan. If only we were cleverer we would think like you.
The pure resentment in your post ilustrates my point beautifully. There is no possibiity of you working out you are being mugged off by millionaires until you open yourself up to introspection. Insulting those you disagree with seems like the perfect plan. If only we were cleverer we would think like you.
I think you look to be insulted to feed your sense of grievance. This is not me going out of my way to dunk on you personaly, it's me offering an explanation of what other people, who neither know nor care about you are doing to you for their own gain. They trade in hate & hate leads nowhere useful, Tice & his mates are bad faith actors. way beyond the usual they're all as bad as each other trope, maybe you'll work it out, maybe you won't but if you cling to the idea they have the answers to your problems, you're only fooling yourself.
S600BSB said:
So when do we think the other 10 or so Tory loons will cross the floor to join reform? After the local election wipe-out?
The smarter ones will have already decided to stand down, but they might just hang on to see if Tice is willing to get his checkbook out. For most of them at the moment, it's either lose their seat at the next election as tories, or join Reform, get a fat cheque, then lose their seat at the next election as Reform candidates.valiant said:
W124 said:
I don’t agree with much that Reform UK (or REFUK, amusingly) say.
But I think they will have more than one MP when the dust settles.
It’s madness to write them off. What they say appeals to many more people than many of us would like to admit.
It’s not my politics. But I only have one vote.
Everything seems permanent. Until it isn’t.
The problem facing Reform is that they may well have a good number of supporters but they are spread far too thin across the U.K. to make any gains. They have no ‘power bases’ of constituencies or areas of the country that they can rely on for seats. Like UKIP before them, they will get a million or two votes nationally but once you spread that across all the constituencies, it don’t amount to a whole hill of beans.But I think they will have more than one MP when the dust settles.
It’s madness to write them off. What they say appeals to many more people than many of us would like to admit.
It’s not my politics. But I only have one vote.
Everything seems permanent. Until it isn’t.
All they can do is dilute the right wing vote.
What I’m suggesting is that they will get more than a million or two votes. Enough to justify more than one Tory MP jumping ship.
Given how popular Reform are, it’s wildly undemocratic for them to have no MP’s at all. As with UKIP.
FPTP has kept them out thus far. But the pressure is simply too great. The numbers don’t work anymore.
Vanden Saab said:
There is no working class anymore and your characterisation of people you fail to understand is pitiful. Thinking that you are going to heal anything by
Insulting those you disagree with seems like the perfect plan. If only we were cleverer we would think like you.
When I read your posts they come across as a desperate attempt to prove you’re the most right wing person here. Or as Lee Mack would put it “so right wing it hurts”Insulting those you disagree with seems like the perfect plan. If only we were cleverer we would think like you.
If Reform were around before the Brexit referendum, I presume they would have been pro brexit. Would they then have stood by the "350m to the NHS" slogan, or the poster of Farage in front of non European refugees? Brexit has happened and neither of those things have been fixed - in fact they got worse, and it turns out they were just empty promises with no basis behind them.
What of makes you think any of Reforms policies are actually workable? Take any of these as your example.
What of makes you think any of Reforms policies are actually workable? Take any of these as your example.
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