Is BP's 'top kill' on the oil well going to work?
Discussion
Obama should not loose sight that the US gave authorisation for deep drilling, which has its safety considrations to take into account.
He should not overlook that an american company Transocean Ltd did the drilling, and the BOP which should have shut off the flow of the oil was made by an American company Cameron International.
I don't hear him bleating on about them.
He should wind his neck in, and try to work with BP et al, to bring this disaster under control.
Fingers cannot be pointed until the investigation has been completed. Those of you who remember the Piper Alpha disaster, it was many months until the final investigation was complete, we didn't start slagging off Occidental the day after it happened.
Yes, those affected need compensating, and quickly, not months later, and as far as I understand, BP is doing its best to do this.
But Obama should try to project himself as the President of the United States of America, and not (to my mind), an over excited school boy quick to point the finger to others.
Can't see the Queen, or the PM going public about "Kicking Arse".
He should not overlook that an american company Transocean Ltd did the drilling, and the BOP which should have shut off the flow of the oil was made by an American company Cameron International.
I don't hear him bleating on about them.
He should wind his neck in, and try to work with BP et al, to bring this disaster under control.
Fingers cannot be pointed until the investigation has been completed. Those of you who remember the Piper Alpha disaster, it was many months until the final investigation was complete, we didn't start slagging off Occidental the day after it happened.
Yes, those affected need compensating, and quickly, not months later, and as far as I understand, BP is doing its best to do this.
But Obama should try to project himself as the President of the United States of America, and not (to my mind), an over excited school boy quick to point the finger to others.
Can't see the Queen, or the PM going public about "Kicking Arse".
Vipers said:
Can't see the Queen, or the PM going public about "Kicking Arse".
Obama is a PR w
e. Every word he says and every picture of him taken is to excite the liberal audience he panders to.
President:"I'm going to kick ass!"
21-28 year old demographic:"OUR PRESIDENT IS SO COOL!!!"
Edited by Frankeh on Wednesday 16th June 09:41
The point is Obama wants none of the responsibility to be american, it's was all that nasty BP ignoring the fact the USA is the worlds largest consumer of oil, but i'm sure this well was being drilled to help the starving somewhere and no so americans can drive huge V8 pick ups with cheap oil
It will take years for blame to be apportioned but what Obama is trying to do is get all the money from BP now, so when it is sorted out the american companies of cameron international and transocean will have to pay their share back to BP, but no now they can't afford it as they've gone to the wall in the mean time leaving BP to pick up other peoples shares.
If Obama wants BP to set up a fund to cover the entire cost of the clean up, then BP should be guaranteed by the US government that when blame is decided any excess money is paid by BP is returned, or everyone waits until the whole thing is settled in the courts
It will take years for blame to be apportioned but what Obama is trying to do is get all the money from BP now, so when it is sorted out the american companies of cameron international and transocean will have to pay their share back to BP, but no now they can't afford it as they've gone to the wall in the mean time leaving BP to pick up other peoples shares.
If Obama wants BP to set up a fund to cover the entire cost of the clean up, then BP should be guaranteed by the US government that when blame is decided any excess money is paid by BP is returned, or everyone waits until the whole thing is settled in the courts
piquet said:
If Obama wants BP to set up a fund to cover the entire cost of the clean up, then BP should be guaranteed by the US government that when blame is decided any excess money is paid by BP is returned, or everyone waits until the whole thing is settled in the courts
The entire cost can only be guessed at when they permanently stop the leak.Also Obama is a socialist and therefore does not understand basic math.
The problem for everyone concerned is if BP gets taken over I think - it may need to stay as BP for people to get their money. Also the well could be unstopped until september (or beyond). Each day it leaks the hole gets bigger too due to sand erosion of the flow limiting features.
Globulator said:
The problem for everyone concerned is if BP gets taken over...
In your dreams. For instance, BP could still buy Louisiana and a few other Southern states without breaking sweat. You can tell how popular and influential they are in the greater USA by the decades of neglect and the slow response when New Orleans was flooded. Truth is, much of New Orleans lower 9th district may never be rebuilt because it's just not worth it. Yes, America is angry but in economic terms this spill is not going to break BP. jshell said:
Wouldn't it be ace though.My pension saved, for the sake of nuking a few million NKs!
Ozzie Osmond said:
Globulator said:
The problem for everyone concerned is if BP gets taken over...
In your dreams. For instance, BP could still buy Louisiana and a few other Southern states without breaking sweat. You can tell how popular and influential they are in the greater USA by the decades of neglect and the slow response when New Orleans was flooded. Truth is, much of New Orleans lower 9th district may never be rebuilt because it's just not worth it. Yes, America is angry but in economic terms this spill is not going to break BP. I meant taken over by other companies (possibly oil companies, or perhaps even Chinese companies).
Ozzie Osmond said:
Globulator said:
The problem for everyone concerned is if BP gets taken over...
In your dreams. For instance, BP could still buy Louisiana and a few other Southern states without breaking sweat. You can tell how popular and influential they are in the greater USA by the decades of neglect and the slow response when New Orleans was flooded. Truth is, much of New Orleans lower 9th district may never be rebuilt because it's just not worth it. Yes, America is angry but in economic terms this spill is not going to break BP. 9th ward doesn't need rebuilding. It needs torching and filling in. It was cheap land for a reason - it was below water level!
Globulator said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
Globulator said:
The problem for everyone concerned is if BP gets taken over...
In your dreams. For instance, BP could still buy Louisiana and a few other Southern states without breaking sweat. You can tell how popular and influential they are in the greater USA by the decades of neglect and the slow response when New Orleans was flooded. Truth is, much of New Orleans lower 9th district may never be rebuilt because it's just not worth it. Yes, America is angry but in economic terms this spill is not going to break BP. I meant taken over by other companies (possibly oil companies, or perhaps even Chinese companies).
tinman0 said:
9th ward doesn't need rebuilding. It needs torching and filling in. It was cheap land for a reason - it was below water level!
Yes, I think we're agreeing. My point being that I'm willing to bet only a tiny fraction of Americans have ever visited the Gulf coast. An occasional trip to New Orleans doesn't count as it's "inland". tinman0 said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
Globulator said:
The problem for everyone concerned is if BP gets taken over...
In your dreams. For instance, BP could still buy Louisiana and a few other Southern states without breaking sweat. You can tell how popular and influential they are in the greater USA by the decades of neglect and the slow response when New Orleans was flooded. Truth is, much of New Orleans lower 9th district may never be rebuilt because it's just not worth it. Yes, America is angry but in economic terms this spill is not going to break BP. 9th ward doesn't need rebuilding. It needs torching and filling in. It was cheap land for a reason - it was below water level!
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