another abuse gang

[freakybacon]

Rotherham. Police knew, but obviously their pensions are more important than children. (I’m sure there are some decent cops in the South Yorkshire Police.)

https://www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.uk/news/view,po...

Edited by freakybacon on Sunday 19th January 17:10

[stitched]

Countdown said:

rambo19 said:

Sad thing is, i'm not shocked.
Nick Griffin and Tommy Robinson been going on about it for years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d613MThaGgM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs5GaH7RNAI

IIRC Anne Cryer was one of the first to try and expose them.

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/people/ann-cr...

I think Nick and Tommy got involved much later when it transpired that most of the perpetrators were asian muslims. You would have to be a complete idiot to think that their involvement had anything to do with protecting white girls and nothing to do with their political agenda.

You really are a one trick pony.

[Countdown]

stitched said:

You really are a one trick pony.

Better a pony than an ass I suppose.....

[Dog Star]

I’m from Rochdale - it’s been known about for decades. I’d say most of them are at it or are involved in keeping it quiet, that or selling drugs. They fking hate “us”.

My sisters and their friends - we are talking professional family, private education, well brought up here, not your classic “vulnerable” in care girls - and their friends can tell some shocking stories about the propositions they’ve had from taxi drivers. It’s a given you don’t travel with them alone.

My middle sister (I have two) was treated to a load of Pakistanis giving her abuse “get your tits out” “suck my cock” etc about 30 years ago. She told them to FRO and so they beat her so badly they broke her arm. Do I need to tell you all what the Police did about it...?

They appear beyond the reach of the law in so many ways - be it child rape, drug dealing, howling round racing expensive cars, crash for cash, uninsured vehicles (good luck getting help off the police with that) etc. It’s unbelievable.

And then I see some fking leftie apologist come out with crap like “well it’s only a tiny minority” or “it’s not just them, white men do it - look at (eg) Jimmy Savile” etc etc. Sorry?!? Do fk off! This is an entire community that know about this and shelter these scum. It’s endemic. .

I have no idea what the solution is - it’s gone too far, and I sure as hell don’t trust the police to help. They’re more likely to come knocking on my door as this post will have upset someone.

[Troubleatmill]

fesuvious said:

To confront this means to confront, examine and understand Islam.

That would need some serious political will !

We do not need to understand Islam.

We just need to chop the fkers cocks, hands and feet off.

And that is every fking kiddie fiddler - regardless of religion.


The day we get to "The state doesn't care who your fking Sky Fairy is.... you have been fking kiddies - Welcome to the rest of your life without limbs." - and when you pop off - you will be in a bacon lined body bag with a pigs penis stuck in your bum hole, mouth - in fact - anywhere we can stick one. And dumped in an unmarked grave that will make sure you never see your God.

I think that may just have a profound affect on the statistics.

Or... we just go... Meh....

[eccles]

fesuvious said:

To confront this means to confront, examine and understand Islam.

That would need some serious political will !

It's not Islam, it's their culture. To just say it's Islam is far too simplistic.

[Ratski83]

Maria the Copt was Mo’s favourite sex slave gifted to him by the Christian Governor of Alexandria during Persian occupation.

There was also Safiya bint Huyay who Mo acquired during his jihad on the Jews of Khaybar. Supposedly the most beautiful of women he killed her husband, father and brother and took her for himself.

They read this rubbish every day from the age of 3 or 4.

[TTwiggy]

I see the amateur theologists are out in force...

The thing about this awful situation is that whatever your prejudice you will find something to latch onto.

If religion is your bugbear then you can point out that all these men are Muslim.

If race pushes your buttons then they are all Pakistani.

A radical feminist might point out that they are all men.

And if you have a view that the country has gone to the dogs thanks to mass immigration then it’s a cultural thing.

In reality, like most situations, it’s multi faceted and complicated. And no amount of pointing to what Mohammed may or may not have done several centuries ago is going to solve anything.

[Digga]

TTwiggy said:

In reality, like most situations, it’s multi faceted and complicated.

I don't actually see it that way. The symptoms are multi-faceted perhaps, but the cause is singular; we have allowed people to exist, for some time, in a bubble where they see the culture of the UK and indeed some of its laws, are somehow options, not for them.

What needs to happen is a reinforcement of cultural expectations and a clear and concise enforcement of the law.

• If you are racist, you have to realise your views are counter to the overall culture and laws of the UK
• If you are a misogynist, you have to realise your views are counter to the overall culture and laws of the UK
• If you are homophobic, you have to realise your views are counter to the overall culture and laws of the UK
• If you are a religious zealot, you have to recognise the right of individuals to choose their own religion, or indeed, no religion at all

The above are not optional aspects of living in Britain, they are intrinsic to being British, whether you were born here or not makes no difference.

[Alpinestars]

Digga said:

TTwiggy said:

In reality, like most situations, it’s multi faceted and complicated.

I don't actually see it that way. The symptoms are multi-faceted perhaps, but the cause is singular; we have allowed people to exist, for some time, in a bubble where they see the culture of the UK and indeed some of its laws, are somehow options, not for them.

What needs to happen is a reinforcement of cultural expectations and a clear and concise enforcement of the law.

• If you are racist, you have to realise your views are counter to the overall culture and laws of the UK
• If you are a misogynist, you have to realise your views are counter to the overall culture and laws of the UK
• If you are homophobic, you have to realise your views are counter to the overall culture and laws of the UK
• If you are a religious zealot, you have to recognise the right of individuals to choose their own religion, or indeed, no religion at all

The above are not optional aspects of living in Britain, they are intrinsic to being British, whether you were born here or not makes no difference.

They aren’t intrinsic to being British. It’s what we should aspire to, but let’s not pretend we are any different to the world as a whole.

[Digga]

Alpinestars said:

Digga said:

TTwiggy said:

In reality, like most situations, it’s multi faceted and complicated.

I don't actually see it that way. The symptoms are multi-faceted perhaps, but the cause is singular; we have allowed people to exist, for some time, in a bubble where they see the culture of the UK and indeed some of its laws, are somehow options, not for them.

What needs to happen is a reinforcement of cultural expectations and a clear and concise enforcement of the law.

• If you are racist, you have to realise your views are counter to the overall culture and laws of the UK
• If you are a misogynist, you have to realise your views are counter to the overall culture and laws of the UK
• If you are homophobic, you have to realise your views are counter to the overall culture and laws of the UK
• If you are a religious zealot, you have to recognise the right of individuals to choose their own religion, or indeed, no religion at all

The above are not optional aspects of living in Britain, they are intrinsic to being British, whether you were born here or not makes no difference.

They aren’t intrinsic to being British. It’s what we should aspire to, but let’s not pretend we are any different to the world as a whole.

It intrinsic.

We are a multi-racial, multi-cultural society. This began way back, even before we started to paint the globe pink. The ethos of trade and travel formed what became the empire.

I am not trying to paint the UK as some sort of utopia, and I realise there are many who are born and bred here who really don't like all of those values, but they are, nonetheless, very well recognised. IME we are very different to even the most advanced developed nations. Not perfect, but certainly not behind the times.

[Alpinestars]

Digga said:

t intrinsic.

We are a multi-racial, multi-cultural society. This began way back, even before we started to paint the globe pink. The ethos of trade and travel formed what became the empire.

I am not trying to paint the UK as some sort of utopia, and I realise there are many who are born and bred here who really don't like all of those values, but they are, nonetheless, very well recognised. IME we are very different to even the most advanced developed nations. Not perfect, but certainly not behind the times.

Being multicultural (partly due to the empire), doesn’t make it so. Religious zealots was a British way of life. Misogyny was a way of life. Homophobia was a way of life. It’s a utopia you’re describing. We may now be more tolerant than many places, but it is in no way intrinsic - how can it be when your first point is how multicultural we are. Therefore by definition, everyone everywhere must also be tolerant.

[s1962a]

fesuvious said:

Just before any woke right-on apologist throws a race card;

Skin colour, or where a person was born has nothing to do with it.

This is a belief system question

Considering where all of this religious stuff seems to come from, you seem awfully quiet on the middle east. Don't tell me you've been to Dubai as well?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51095771

Stop giving them money and licking their arses, and they stop abusing our innocent children, right?

These peadophile wkers who commit this abuse are absolute scum.

[TTwiggy]

fesuvious said:

Just before any woke right-on apologist throws a race card;

Skin colour, or where a person was born has nothing to do with it.

This is a belief system question

I'm intrigued as to how you can be so sure.

They are all British Pakistani

They are all Muslim

They are all Men

How are you able to judge which of those common traits is the cause?

[Digga]

Alpinestars said:

Digga said:

t intrinsic.

We are a multi-racial, multi-cultural society. This began way back, even before we started to paint the globe pink. The ethos of trade and travel formed what became the empire.

I am not trying to paint the UK as some sort of utopia, and I realise there are many who are born and bred here who really don't like all of those values, but they are, nonetheless, very well recognised. IME we are very different to even the most advanced developed nations. Not perfect, but certainly not behind the times.

Being multicultural (partly due to the empire), doesn’t make it so. Religious zealots was a British way of life. Misogyny was a way of life. Homophobia was a way of life. It’s a utopia you’re describing. We may now be more tolerant than many places, but it is in no way intrinsic - how can it be when your first point is how multicultural we are. Therefore by definition, everyone everywhere must also be tolerant.

Much has changed in the UK in the last 50 years. Even more so in the last 100 odd. There are plenty of other nations and cultures that are far less enlightened.

We were zealots ourselves, true, but there is clear and widespread acknowledgement of the error of our prior ways. Meanwhile, other bits of the world try to emulate...

[WinstonWolf]

TTwiggy said:

fesuvious said:

Just before any woke right-on apologist throws a race card;

Skin colour, or where a person was born has nothing to do with it.

This is a belief system question

I'm intrigued as to how you can be so sure.

They are all British Pakistani

They are all Muslim

They are all Men

How are you able to judge which of those common traits is the cause?

We are able to say with certainty that a senior police officer from Rotherham admits that his force had a policy of ignoring Pakistani gangs grooming and raping children, for decades, due to racial concerns.

[TTwiggy]

WinstonWolf said:

We are able to say with certainty that a senior police officer from Rotherham admits that his force had a policy of ignoring Pakistani gangs grooming and raping children, for decades, due to racial concerns.

That's a reason for them 'getting away with it' (and also, of course, that the police decided the girls were prostitutes). It doesn't answer the question about the cause. Is it race or religion?

[Ridgemont]

WinstonWolf said:

TTwiggy said:

fesuvious said:

Just before any woke right-on apologist throws a race card;

Skin colour, or where a person was born has nothing to do with it.

This is a belief system question

I'm intrigued as to how you can be so sure.

They are all British Pakistani

They are all Muslim

They are all Men

How are you able to judge which of those common traits is the cause?

We are able to say with certainty that a senior police officer from Rotherham admits that his force had a policy of ignoring Pakistani gangs grooming and raping children, for decades, due to racial concerns.

Richard North wrote a pretty good summary on some of the cultural issues 5 years back. Worth a read. Specifically he rightly highlighted that the Pashtun honour culture which stretches through Pakistan and Afghanistan seems to be a core source of the problem, not only in weird attitudes to women, but also in how the communities involved essentially operate a culture of omertà on the issue, and how it seeps into relations with police and authorities

http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=8...

[996owner]

TTwiggy said:

fesuvious said:

Just before any woke right-on apologist throws a race card;

Skin colour, or where a person was born has nothing to do with it.

This is a belief system question

I'm intrigued as to how you can be so sure.

They are all British Pakistani

They are all Muslim

They are all Men

How are you able to judge which of those common traits is the cause?

Read the news.

Police ignore grooming gangs....
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7901731/P...


More gangs, look at the photo's or names
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jun/13/ei...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4211689/newcastle-gr...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/01/14/police...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/halifa...

When we don't want to accept whats going on more gangs get away with their crimes and more victims are created.


I personally feel the situation has now gone too far and the crackdown on the gangs starts it wont be pretty at all.. I just wish it had started much sooner. The old saying of "nip the problem in the bud".. But late for that unfortunately.

Edited by 996owner on Monday 20th January 13:39

[TTwiggy]

996owner said:

ead the news.....

Police ignore grooming gangs....
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7901731/P...


More gangs, look at the photo's or names
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jun/13/ei...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4211689/newcastle-gr...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/01/14/police...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/halifa...

When we don't want to accept whats going on more gangs get away with their crimes and more victims are created.

Yes. I'm aware of all this.

My question was, how are posters on here so sure it's down to Islam, when all of the gangs also share the trait of being Pakistani and male.