Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party (Vol. 2)
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Why’s he “relaunching the brexit party” but making it about opposing lockdowns.
Why not just start the anti lockdown party or whatever.
Linking it to brexit or the brexit party will just put off loads of reasonable less frothy types.
I’m against lockdowns but I’m not really into supporting the relaunched brexit party, I’m sure plenty of others feel similarly.
Why not just start the anti lockdown party or whatever.
Linking it to brexit or the brexit party will just put off loads of reasonable less frothy types.
I’m against lockdowns but I’m not really into supporting the relaunched brexit party, I’m sure plenty of others feel similarly.
El stovey said:
Why’s he “relaunching the brexit party” but making it about opposing lockdowns.
Why not just start the anti lockdown party or whatever.
Linking it to brexit or the brexit party will just put off loads of reasonable less frothy types.
I’m against lockdowns but I’m not really into supporting the relaunched brexit party, I’m sure plenty of others feel similarly.
That's a fair point.Why not just start the anti lockdown party or whatever.
Linking it to brexit or the brexit party will just put off loads of reasonable less frothy types.
I’m against lockdowns but I’m not really into supporting the relaunched brexit party, I’m sure plenty of others feel similarly.
A new party would have been better.
JagLover said:
Lotobear said:
Whatever you may think about the man he has always had a very keen instinct as to which way the political wind is blowing - this will get a lot of support IMO
YepMore and more Tory MPs sticking their head over the parapet.
It will be interesting to see just who votes against the lockdown, it looks like Baker was won over in supporting the lockdown.
A repost from the other thread
and he is spot on. Most of those opposed to lockdown are fervently opposed.
O'Fynn said:
It may strike people as strange that he should seize on anti-lockdown feeling to provide the launchpad for a remodelled Brexit party, soon to be rebadged as Reform UK. After all, a YouGov poll has just found that 72 per cent of people support the new lockdown and only 23 per cent are opposed.
And yet with his keen nose for unfashionable, non-Woke opinion, Farage will appreciate something crucial: that while support for another lockdown is apparently a mile wide, opposition to it runs very deep indeed among that wedge of around a quarter of the electorate.
Most of the objectors earn a living outside the public sector 'blob', with its guaranteed salaries and index-linked pensions. Many are entrepreneurs in the hospitality sector; publicans and restaurateurs. Others run high street retail businesses, such as dry cleaners or sandwich shops, that have seen trade all but wiped out by the mass switch to working from home.
Last December, this nation of shopkeepers – were I a psephologist seeking to break the electorate down into constituent tribes, I might call them 'entrepreneurial provincials' – overwhelmingly voted Tory. Less than a year later, they are about to form the biggest wave of bankruptcies to hit the UK since the sky-high interest rates of the ERM debacle that ended on Black Wednesday. Unsurprisingly they are as mad as hell and don’t intend to take it anymore.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/farage-will-make-boris-regret-his-panicky-second-lockdownAnd yet with his keen nose for unfashionable, non-Woke opinion, Farage will appreciate something crucial: that while support for another lockdown is apparently a mile wide, opposition to it runs very deep indeed among that wedge of around a quarter of the electorate.
Most of the objectors earn a living outside the public sector 'blob', with its guaranteed salaries and index-linked pensions. Many are entrepreneurs in the hospitality sector; publicans and restaurateurs. Others run high street retail businesses, such as dry cleaners or sandwich shops, that have seen trade all but wiped out by the mass switch to working from home.
Last December, this nation of shopkeepers – were I a psephologist seeking to break the electorate down into constituent tribes, I might call them 'entrepreneurial provincials' – overwhelmingly voted Tory. Less than a year later, they are about to form the biggest wave of bankruptcies to hit the UK since the sky-high interest rates of the ERM debacle that ended on Black Wednesday. Unsurprisingly they are as mad as hell and don’t intend to take it anymore.
and he is spot on. Most of those opposed to lockdown are fervently opposed.
Edited by JagLover on Monday 2nd November 12:26
JagLover said:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/farage-will-ma...
and he is spot on. Most of those opposed to lockdown are as fervently opposed.
Sure but the next election isn’t until 2024 and by then lockdowns will be a thing of the past or there will be some new kind of economy by then.and he is spot on. Most of those opposed to lockdown are as fervently opposed.
I might agree with Farage over lockdowns, it might make some people support him with a vote but there aren't any elections.
Does farage think people against lockdowns will start supporting him now and keep supporting him over some other ‘against stuff’ issues in the future when there’s an election?
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 2nd November 12:32
IforB said:
He is a populist opportunist.
In other words, the absolute worst kind of politician.
Or if you're the average person fed up with the direction of travel and soundbitesIn other words, the absolute worst kind of politician.
from the two main parties he is a breath of fresh air ,
I doubt there will be any reason to vote tory next time , Starmer has watered down Labour
so their isn't any reason to vote for the least worst option to keep them out , I just hope I have an opportunity to vote for the reform party , otherwise I will spoil my card ...
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