Brexit - real world implications

Brexit - real world implications

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Escapegoat

5,135 posts

137 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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13m said:
It just seems fair that those who didn't vote for the st storm should be least affected by it.
Now I definitely think it's you making up this bakery story to support your revenge fantasy.

What next - denying benefits to Tory voters and performance bonuses to Labour voters?

m3jappa

6,477 posts

220 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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13m said:
Oh well, if one bakery is doing okay they must all be, right?

And who said they have gone to the wall?
He's firing people because his buisness isn't doing as well due to brexit, how is it not going to the wall? Please explain how leaving the eu will effect bakeries? Is it because of something else he's having problems? Is it true that within 3 weeks he's selling x amount less loaves of bread and as such in such a short time frame he's going to start getting rid?


And regarding the last post about putting trades on hold I do get it, but I also get that the last recession for the normal man was fuelled by people doing the same thing. Everyone stops spending because it's not worth it causes worse recession.

I also believe(and am guilty myself to an extent) that constant rising house prices and only having work done to them if they are going up is silly generally. Personally I think that house prices should go up with inflation or they should go up if you have improved them from their previous dire state. Looking at rightmove daily it seems it doesn't matter if a house has had blood sweat and tears poured in, they've just all gone up.

I am fairly worried/fairly calm. For me I'm just hoping the government act sensibly which tbh I maybe naively think they will.

///ajd

8,964 posts

208 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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Well the remainers said holidays would get more expensive. Scaremongering but true.

At least they didn't say something ridiculous like brexit would make your holiday company go bust and leave you stranded abroad.....

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jul/15/l...


13m

26,646 posts

224 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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m3jappa said:
13m said:
Oh well, if one bakery is doing okay they must all be, right?

And who said they have gone to the wall?
He's firing people because his buisness isn't doing as well due to brexit, how is it not going to the wall? Please explain how leaving the eu will effect bakeries? Is it because of something else he's having problems? Is it true that within 3 weeks he's selling x amount less loaves of bread and as such in such a short time frame he's going to start getting rid?


And regarding the last post about putting trades on hold I do get it, but I also get that the last recession for the normal man was fuelled by people doing the same thing. Everyone stops spending because it's not worth it causes worse recession.

I also believe(and am guilty myself to an extent) that constant rising house prices and only having work done to them if they are going up is silly generally. Personally I think that house prices should go up with inflation or they should go up if you have improved them from their previous dire state. Looking at rightmove daily it seems it doesn't matter if a house has had blood sweat and tears poured in, they've just all gone up.

I am fairly worried/fairly calm. For me I'm just hoping the government act sensibly which tbh I maybe naively think they will.
During the early days of the financial crisis, it was noticeable that the more successful businesses we deal with were the first and most ruthless to cut jobs. The main legal firm we used were on it immediately and they culled a large number of staff, even to the point that some of the partners were answering their own phones. Happily the firm is thriving today, though how Brexit will affect them remains to be seen.

With regard to everyone latching on to the bakery thing and saying that it's all a pack of lies, it really is a matter for you whether you believe it or not. I cannot recall the exact wording but I was left with the impression that it's something bakery. Since there is so much disbelief, I'll see if I can find out some more but it won't be for a fortnight at the earliest I'm afraid.

If this chap does just bake baps and sliced white, though, perhaps it's an indicator that we're in bigger trouble than I thought.







ruggedscotty

5,661 posts

211 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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This is just blaming others - that holiday company would proably have folded its just using the brit exit excuse.

Fastdruid

8,731 posts

154 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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///ajd said:
Well the remainers said holidays would get more expensive. Scaremongering but true.

At least they didn't say something ridiculous like brexit would make your holiday company go bust and leave you stranded abroad.....

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jul/15/l...
Company has been struggling for ~2 years. Yes I'm sure Brexit really didn't help and was in all likelihood the straw the broke the camels back but if it wasn't Brexit it would have been something else.

RYH64E

7,960 posts

246 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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Fastdruid said:
///ajd said:
Well the remainers said holidays would get more expensive. Scaremongering but true.

At least they didn't say something ridiculous like brexit would make your holiday company go bust and leave you stranded abroad.....

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jul/15/l...
Company has been struggling for ~2 years. Yes I'm sure Brexit really didn't help and was in all likelihood the straw the broke the camels back but if it wasn't Brexit it would have been something else.
Buying in EUR or USD and selling in GBP will have hit the margins of a lot of companies, if margins are slim anyway it will cause real problems especially if the increased costs can't be passed on to the customer. As it would appear that this particular company hasn't actually paid it's bills it likely wasn't a factor, but there will be others companies having real problems.

mondeoman

11,430 posts

268 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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RYH64E said:
Fastdruid said:
///ajd said:
Well the remainers said holidays would get more expensive. Scaremongering but true.

At least they didn't say something ridiculous like brexit would make your holiday company go bust and leave you stranded abroad.....

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jul/15/l...
Company has been struggling for ~2 years. Yes I'm sure Brexit really didn't help and was in all likelihood the straw the broke the camels back but if it wasn't Brexit it would have been something else.
Buying in EUR or USD and selling in GBP will have hit the margins of a lot of companies, if margins are slim anyway it will cause real problems especially if the increased costs can't be passed on to the customer. As it would appear that this particular company hasn't actually paid it's bills it likely wasn't a factor, but there will be others companies having real problems.
So, ultimately, it's a non story, and we're back, yet again, to ///ajd's fear mongering. Must be fun in his house.

Fastdruid

8,731 posts

154 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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RYH64E said:
Fastdruid said:
///ajd said:
Well the remainers said holidays would get more expensive. Scaremongering but true.

At least they didn't say something ridiculous like brexit would make your holiday company go bust and leave you stranded abroad.....

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jul/15/l...
Company has been struggling for ~2 years. Yes I'm sure Brexit really didn't help and was in all likelihood the straw the broke the camels back but if it wasn't Brexit it would have been something else.
Buying in EUR or USD and selling in GBP will have hit the margins of a lot of companies, if margins are slim anyway it will cause real problems especially if the increased costs can't be passed on to the customer. As it would appear that this particular company hasn't actually paid it's bills it likely wasn't a factor, but there will be others companies having real problems.
Undoubtedly but holding up a company that has been on a razors edge of survivability for the last 2 years as an example of "how bad Brexit is" is ridiculous.

There will undoubtedly be some companies that were successful and now wont be but that wasn't one of them.

London424

12,830 posts

177 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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///ajd said:
Well the remainers said holidays would get more expensive. Scaremongering but true.

At least they didn't say something ridiculous like brexit would make your holiday company go bust and leave you stranded abroad.....

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jul/15/l...
All hail the EU...oh.

"In 2013, the Civil Aviation Authority had warned holidaymakers to avoid booking with Lowcostholidays after the company relocated to Spain, which meant that its holidays were no longer protected under the Atol scheme run by the CAA. This ensures that customers can return home and get their money back if a company goes bust. Lowcostholidays had dismissed these warnings, stating that holidaymakers had protection under a Spanish scheme."

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

125 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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Someone at the gym I attend runs a business manufacturing anti depressants and since the Brexit announcement business is booming and they are going to have to recruit more staff. It was quite well known, during the staff recruitment and interview process, who voted which way. Those who voted OUT are going to be hired first.

Seems fair enough really and 100% legit.

///ajd

8,964 posts

208 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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BlackLabel said:
Someone at the gym I attend runs a business manufacturing anti depressants and since the Brexit announcement business is booming and they are going to have to recruit more staff. It was quite well known, during the staff recruitment and interview process, who voted which way. Those who voted OUT are going to be hired first.

Seems fair enough really and 100% legit.
Brexit

Making Britain Greatly Depressed.

Something to be proud of, eh?

don'tbesilly

13,997 posts

165 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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///ajd said:
Well the remainers said holidays would get more expensive. Scaremongering but true.

At least they didn't say something ridiculous like brexit would make your holiday company go bust and leave you stranded abroad.....

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jul/15/l...
Yes, Low Cost Holidays were doing very well before the Referendum weren't they?


The last filed accounts for Lowcosttravelgroup show that the business had sold holidays worth £477m in the year to October 2014, making a pretax loss of £47,000.

chris watton

22,477 posts

262 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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Apparently, according to Chris Bryant, the attempted coup in Turkey was Brexit's fault, so we can add that to the list:

"Turkey is now and has long been a lynch pin in European and wider security. Ludicrous Brexit lies undoubtedly contributed to destabilising"

fking moron.

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

111 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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chris watton said:
Apparently, according to Chris Bryant, the attempted coup in Turkey was Brexit's fault, so we can add that to the list:

"Turkey is now and has long been a lynch pin in European and wider security. Ludicrous Brexit lies undoubtedly contributed to destabilising"

fking moron.
That is unfair, actual morons might find that comparison offensive.

andymadmak

14,694 posts

272 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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///ajd said:
BlackLabel said:
Someone at the gym I attend runs a business manufacturing anti depressants and since the Brexit announcement business is booming and they are going to have to recruit more staff. It was quite well known, during the staff recruitment and interview process, who voted which way. Those who voted OUT are going to be hired first.

Seems fair enough really and 100% legit.
Brexit

Making Britain Greatly Depressed.

Something to be proud of, eh?
Parrot for Mr AJD?.. hehe

Jockman

17,940 posts

162 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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///ajd said:
BlackLabel said:
Someone at the gym I attend runs a business manufacturing anti depressants and since the Brexit announcement business is booming and they are going to have to recruit more staff. It was quite well known, during the staff recruitment and interview process, who voted which way. Those who voted OUT are going to be hired first.

Seems fair enough really and 100% legit.
Brexit

Making Britain Greatly Depressed.

Something to be proud of, eh?
Surely this cannot be allowed. Did you not copyright it?

GetCarter

29,444 posts

281 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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My nephew got the sack yesterday as Hewlett Packard are moving some of their operations to Europe (due to Brexit). No big deal for the UK, but a big deal for him. (Mortgage, kids etc)

zygalski

7,759 posts

147 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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There is no causal link between Brexit & Great Britain leaving the EU.
Ridiculous that those who voted Leave have the nerve to take credit for this. Pure speculation as Brexit would most likely have happened anyway.

13m

26,646 posts

224 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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GetCarter said:
My nephew got the sack yesterday as Hewlett Packard are moving some of their operations to Europe (due to Brexit). No big deal for the UK, but a big deal for him. (Mortgage, kids etc)
HP must be going to the wall. Only explanation. When times get tough people still buy computers. Either that or you are a liar. smile