Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 4

[XM5ER]

Terminator X said:

Just to show what extreme temps people can deal with day to day ...

"it holds the Guinness World Record for the greatest temperature range on Earth, from -67.8C in winter to 37.3C in summer."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-41914876

Hardy bunch us humans.

TX.

What a cool article, cheers.

[turbobloke]

XM5ER said:

Terminator X said:

Just to show what extreme temps people can deal with day to day ...

"it holds the Guinness World Record for the greatest temperature range on Earth, from -67.8C in winter to 37.3C in summer."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-41914876

Hardy bunch us humans.

TX.

What a cool article, cheers.

Agreed, hot stuff.

[robinessex]

Todays Beeb CC story

Climate's magic rabbit: Pulling CO2 out of thin air

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-4181...

UN climate negotiators are meeting in Bonn amid a welter of reports indicating that concentrations of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere have broken records, while international attempts to curb greenhouse gases are not doing enough to avoid dangerous levels of warming. Our environment correspondent Matt McGrath has travelled to Switzerland to see if technology to remove CO2 from the air could be the answer to this ongoing carbon conundrum....................continues.

Did the Beebs matt McGrath need to fly to Switzerland to see the technology, creating more CO2 on the way. Surely the internet is good enough for that? Anyway, the story really has nothing to do with CC. It's just a commercial company extracting a USEFUL gas, and selling it.

[robinessex]

The Beebs other CC story

Trump team looks for alternative approaches to Paris pact

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-4199...

President Trump's special adviser on climate says that the US is seeking ways of continuing to be part of international climate discussions.
George David Banks said that US was considering reviving the Major Economies Meeting (MEM).
The Bush-era forum allowed the US to remain in climate discussions even when outside the formal process.
The leaders of France and Germany will address the talks today amid concern over slow progress in cutting carbon.
The group first met in September 2007 and featured delegations from the US, China, the EU, the UK and other countries with high levels of carbon emissions.
At the time the US was outside the formal UN climate negotiating process, having signed but not ratified the Kyoto Protocol, which limited the emissions of richer nations only......................continues

More CO2 being spouted, and the poor nations hoping to pin CC on the rich nations, and give them oddles of $'s !

[turbobloke]

Great stuff from the beeb as usual. There's bound to be slow progress in cutting carbon. Carbon (diamond) is often used to cut other materials, and even graphite needs to be set the right way so the bbc might take advice from content over on PracticalMachinist.com where one contributor advises that graphite blocks should be treated as a hard steel when cutting.

[Terminator X]

robinessex said:

Todays Beeb CC story

Climate's magic rabbit: Pulling CO2 out of thin air

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-4181...

UN climate negotiators are meeting in Bonn amid a welter of reports indicating that concentrations of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere have broken records, while international attempts to curb greenhouse gases are not doing enough to avoid dangerous levels of warming. Our environment correspondent Matt McGrath has travelled to Switzerland to see if technology to remove CO2 from the air could be the answer to this ongoing carbon conundrum....................continues.

Did the Beebs matt McGrath need to fly to Switzerland to see the technology, creating more CO2 on the way. Surely the internet is good enough for that? Anyway, the story really has nothing to do with CC. It's just a commercial company extracting a USEFUL gas, and selling it.

Job of plants?

TX.

[XM5ER]

I cant believe that this hasn't been picked up on here yet

Labour vows to factor climate change risk into economic forecasts
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/nov/1...

That should go well.

[robinessex]

XM5ER said:

I cant believe that this hasn't been picked up on here yet

Labour vows to factor climate change risk into economic forecasts
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/nov/1...

That should go well.

Bonkers

[zygalski]

I do love to dip a toe into this thread on occasion, just to gauge at what temperature the collective N,P &E PH piss is currently at.

[Ali G]

zygalski said:

I do love to dip a toe into this thread on occasion, just to gauge at what temperature the collective N,P &E PH piss is currently at.

Ah but that would be a Proxy measure based upon speculation and confirmation bias.

[Trolleys Thank You]

robinessex said:

XM5ER said:

I cant believe that this hasn't been picked up on here yet

Labour vows to factor climate change risk into economic forecasts
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/nov/1...

That should go well.

Bonkers

Sensible.

[robinessex]

Trolleys Thank You said:

robinessex said:

XM5ER said:

I cant believe that this hasn't been picked up on here yet

Labour vows to factor climate change risk into economic forecasts
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/nov/1...

That should go well.

Bonkers

Sensible.

Justify that

[Trolleys Thank You]

robinessex said:

Trolleys Thank You said:

robinessex said:

XM5ER said:

I cant believe that this hasn't been picked up on here yet

Labour vows to factor climate change risk into economic forecasts
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/nov/1...

That should go well.

Bonkers

Sensible.

Justify that

After you.

[Ali G]

Pantomime

[LongQ]

Pure politics from those who promise everything but don't mean what they say they mean. At least not in public.

[Diderot]

The comments in that article are going well.

[turbobloke]

News item: apparently the impact from human climate change will be felt by the end of the century, according to hot air in Germany. That's interesting...nothing as yet (OK) and a long wait lies ahead so the current generation of alarmists can retire and disappear. Cool.

[robinessex]

The Beebs CC offering today

Europe steps in to cover US shortfall in funding climate science

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-4200...

French president Emmanuel Macron says that Europe will cover any shortfall in funding for the global climate body, the IPCC.
The scientific organisation has faced uncertainty since President Donald Trump outlined plans earlier this year to cut US funding.
THE UK GOVERNMENT ALSO PLEDGED TO DOUBLE THEIR IPCC CONTRIBUTION.
Speaking at UN talks in Bonn, Mr Macron said that climate change was the most significant struggle of our times.
Today saw the start of the high level segment at this meeting of global climate negotiators known as COP23.
In his statement to negotiators, the French president outlined the need for increased commitments to cut carbon...................

So UK tax payers, reach into your pockets to save the planet. Not sure if that's from CC or stupid politicians though!!

[robinessex]

Nasa forecast: Which cities will flood as ice melts?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-4198...

A forecasting tool reveals which cities will be affected as different portions of the ice sheet melt, say scientists.
It looks at the Earth's spin and gravitational effects to predict how water will be "redistributed" globally.
"This provides, for each city, a picture of which glaciers, ice sheets, [and] ice caps are of specific importance," say the researchers.
The tool has been developed by scientists at Nasa's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California.......continues

Well, that's the answer. The question is, is the ice going to melt or increase in the future? Anyone got a coin I can flip?

[XM5ER]

robinessex said:

Nasa forecast: Which cities will flood as ice melts?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-4198...

A forecasting tool reveals which cities will be affected as different portions of the ice sheet melt, say scientists.
It looks at the Earth's spin and gravitational effects to predict how water will be "redistributed" globally.
"This provides, for each city, a picture of which glaciers, ice sheets, [and] ice caps are of specific importance," say the researchers.
The tool has been developed by scientists at Nasa's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California.......continues

Well, that's the answer. The question is, is the ice going to melt or increase in the future? Anyone got a coin I can flip?

Perhaps they could do an alternative prediction about which cities will starve if the climate gets colder. Let's hope CO2 AGW theory is right and we have indeed averted the next ice age.