Brexit - was it worth it? (Vol. 2)
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For anyone interested in motorcycling...
Not sure what the EU is up to here but Motorcycle News report that June 2018, the EU placed a 25% incremental tariff (31% total) on motorcycles imported into the EU from the US. The tariff is now scheduled to increase to 50% incremental (56% total) on June 1 2021. Since June 2019, Harley Davidson had been able to escape most of the tariff due to Binding Origin Information (BOI) credentials. The result is that certain Harley Davidson Motorcycles have previously been subject to just 6% tariffs. However, Harley Davidson have since been told by the EU that after a decision by the European Commission their BOI credentials have been revoked. This means that from June 1, the full 56% tariffs will be implemented. For reference, European bikes imported into the US are subject to tariffs ranging from 1.2% to 2.4% depending on displacement.
I wonder if this may be a sign of things to come for all non EU Countries that export their goods to EU Countries. Hopefully not.
Not sure what the EU is up to here but Motorcycle News report that June 2018, the EU placed a 25% incremental tariff (31% total) on motorcycles imported into the EU from the US. The tariff is now scheduled to increase to 50% incremental (56% total) on June 1 2021. Since June 2019, Harley Davidson had been able to escape most of the tariff due to Binding Origin Information (BOI) credentials. The result is that certain Harley Davidson Motorcycles have previously been subject to just 6% tariffs. However, Harley Davidson have since been told by the EU that after a decision by the European Commission their BOI credentials have been revoked. This means that from June 1, the full 56% tariffs will be implemented. For reference, European bikes imported into the US are subject to tariffs ranging from 1.2% to 2.4% depending on displacement.
I wonder if this may be a sign of things to come for all non EU Countries that export their goods to EU Countries. Hopefully not.
Earthdweller said:
633Squadron said:
Have we had this yet?
Brexit: European Parliament backs UK trade deal
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56899831
Frost happy
Boris happy
Barnier not happy
Verhofstadt not happy
Barrier was spot on though in his comments Brexit: European Parliament backs UK trade deal
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56899831
Frost happy
Boris happy
Barnier not happy
Verhofstadt not happy
"This is a divorce. It is a warning, Brexit. It's a failure of the European Union and we have to learn lessons from it," he told MEPs.
I saw an interesting analysis last night about AF and the DUP. Thus: the question of United Ireland is being raised for the first time in a long time. The political parties are therefore, looking ahead to who leads them in discussing such a thing. AF is/was regarded as too hardcore/unfriendly to be a softer more PR “face” for such politics.
It intrigued me anyway - was on the BBC news. I’m not an NI expert, so no idea how valid such analysis is.
It intrigued me anyway - was on the BBC news. I’m not an NI expert, so no idea how valid such analysis is.
Fittster said:
Study on 100 days of Brexit: companies break off trade with Great Britain
Brexit hits companies more clearly than feared. A good four months after the start of the new rules in foreign trade with Great Britain , two thirds of the companies assess the effects more negatively than expected at the beginning of the year, shows a recent survey by the British Chamber of Commerce in Germany (BCCG) with the consulting firm KPMG. German companies with business in Great Britain formed the focus. As a consequence, 17 percent decided to completely stop foreign trade with the island.
"The current results are a clear alarm signal," said BCCG President Michael Schmidt. "The fact that companies are considering or even deciding to completely cease foreign trade relations shows a further escalation level in the course of persistent unresolved problems between the two countries."
https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article230704951/Br...
Its a funny old world isn't it !Brexit hits companies more clearly than feared. A good four months after the start of the new rules in foreign trade with Great Britain , two thirds of the companies assess the effects more negatively than expected at the beginning of the year, shows a recent survey by the British Chamber of Commerce in Germany (BCCG) with the consulting firm KPMG. German companies with business in Great Britain formed the focus. As a consequence, 17 percent decided to completely stop foreign trade with the island.
"The current results are a clear alarm signal," said BCCG President Michael Schmidt. "The fact that companies are considering or even deciding to completely cease foreign trade relations shows a further escalation level in the course of persistent unresolved problems between the two countries."
https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article230704951/Br...
April 21st: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/04/21/ge...
"A top German business lobbyist has said that firms in his country are lining up to invest in Britain after Brexit sparked less disruption than feared.
Ulrich Hoppe, director-general of the German-British Chamber of Industry & Commerce, said that many firms previously planning to relocate staff had now abandoned their plans to do so.
A survey of 117 businesses by the chamber found that 20pc were planning to shift some business activities abroad due to Brexit - down from 70pc last autumn.
Mr Hoppe said: “I think there is renewed interest in the UK market and also in terms of investment in the UK market, because it is an important market."
DeejRC said:
I saw an interesting analysis last night about AF and the DUP. Thus: the question of United Ireland is being raised for the first time in a long time. The political parties are therefore, looking ahead to who leads them in discussing such a thing. AF is/was regarded as too hardcore/unfriendly to be a softer more PR “face” for such politics.
It intrigued me anyway - was on the BBC news. I’m not an NI expert, so no idea how valid such analysis is.
Not sure I'd agree with that BBC analysis. A large part of the motivation seems to be party councillors & MLAs fearing for their seats in next year's elections due to their grass root's anger over the NI Protocol among other things. Objections to the recent assembly vote on banning gay conversion therapy seemingly being the straw that broke the camel's back doesn't indicate that they're moving in a more progressive direction.It intrigued me anyway - was on the BBC news. I’m not an NI expert, so no idea how valid such analysis is.
That said, a lot may depend on who wins the leadership now. The talking heads reckon it won't just be Arlene going, there's appetite to replace all who've been running the party for years and also to restructure the leadership. The early favourite for first minister, Edwin Poots, is a fundamentalist christian and young earth creationist. From the outside it does look like there's a fight on between the more religious and more secular wings of the party but I doubt they'll air that in public.
roger.mellie said:
DeejRC said:
I saw an interesting analysis last night about AF and the DUP. Thus: the question of United Ireland is being raised for the first time in a long time. The political parties are therefore, looking ahead to who leads them in discussing such a thing. AF is/was regarded as too hardcore/unfriendly to be a softer more PR “face” for such politics.
It intrigued me anyway - was on the BBC news. I’m not an NI expert, so no idea how valid such analysis is.
Not sure I'd agree with that BBC analysis. <snip>It intrigued me anyway - was on the BBC news. I’m not an NI expert, so no idea how valid such analysis is.
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Should that not be more alarming for the German companies that are now turning away customers? What portion of their trade are they losing?
I can't speak for Germany, but I have the impression that quite a lot of EU companies were actively seeking alternative markets in the period between the referendum and the UK's exit. One of the companies I supply was achieving about 65% of their turnover in sales to the UK back in 2016. By the end of last year they had completely ceased supplying into the UK.turbobloke said:
roger.mellie said:
DeejRC said:
I saw an interesting analysis last night about AF and the DUP. Thus: the question of United Ireland is being raised for the first time in a long time. The political parties are therefore, looking ahead to who leads them in discussing such a thing. AF is/was regarded as too hardcore/unfriendly to be a softer more PR “face” for such politics.
It intrigued me anyway - was on the BBC news. I’m not an NI expert, so no idea how valid such analysis is.
Not sure I'd agree with that BBC analysis. <snip>It intrigued me anyway - was on the BBC news. I’m not an NI expert, so no idea how valid such analysis is.
“We are severely worried about the state of our party and country.”
...
“deeply concerned about the future of unionism, Ulster conservatism and the DUP..We believe that the protocol needs to be overthrown [and] abortion laws need to be repealed.”
https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/politics/letter-...
Interesting problem for any prospective leader, if they stand on that as their manifesto they'll be standing on one they can't deliver.
21st Jan - UK insists it will not grant EU ambassador full diplomatic status
29th April - Britain to formally recognise EU ambassador for first time since Brexit
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/britain-to-form...
29th April - Britain to formally recognise EU ambassador for first time since Brexit
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/britain-to-form...
Why are some posters scouring the news for 'Grrrrr Brexit" stories?
The majority of us are simply getting on with it, ironing out the initial bumps and adapting. Yeah, some things are a pain, but it is what it is and everything can be sorted.
The big issues are the new vat rules and 'rules of origin' rules, and that is only because we have taken them on from January 1st where as the rest of the EU are putting them in place from July 1st. At that point most of the issues will be sorted out.
I know from July 1st all my EU suppliers will be covering all vat related issues and teh rules of origin will apply to them wether shipping to the UK from Germany and shipping to the Netherlands from Germany, so all prices will include the new tariffs they have been avoiding for the last 30 years or so.
The reality is, Brexit and the new vat rules and rules of origin rules will do exactly what they were designed to do, bring back business to each state and stop putting the money in the pockets of those countries who can undercut your fellow countryman. Whether you are in France, Germany, Italy or the UK you have to be a bit heartless to not think this is a good idea?
The majority of us are simply getting on with it, ironing out the initial bumps and adapting. Yeah, some things are a pain, but it is what it is and everything can be sorted.
The big issues are the new vat rules and 'rules of origin' rules, and that is only because we have taken them on from January 1st where as the rest of the EU are putting them in place from July 1st. At that point most of the issues will be sorted out.
I know from July 1st all my EU suppliers will be covering all vat related issues and teh rules of origin will apply to them wether shipping to the UK from Germany and shipping to the Netherlands from Germany, so all prices will include the new tariffs they have been avoiding for the last 30 years or so.
The reality is, Brexit and the new vat rules and rules of origin rules will do exactly what they were designed to do, bring back business to each state and stop putting the money in the pockets of those countries who can undercut your fellow countryman. Whether you are in France, Germany, Italy or the UK you have to be a bit heartless to not think this is a good idea?
Agree, do not see what will be achieved by trawling news feeds for anything negative due to Brexit. The decision has been made and we all need to get on with life. If anything the pandemic should focus what things are really important in our lives. It's as if certain posters think they will overturn a democratic vote or convince everyone they made a mistake!
If you look at young Fittster's posts for the last 3 months, he has not posted a single thing to do with cars, other than if it is has a political angle, ie. "oooh, must go EV."
This is a car forum, so he is either a paid shill or a proper sad t
t. Or, he gets double points for being both.
This is a car forum, so he is either a paid shill or a proper sad t
t. Or, he gets double points for being both. gizlaroc said:
If you look at young Fittster's posts for the last 3 months, he has not posted a single thing to do with cars, other than if it is has a political angle, ie. "oooh, must go EV."
This is a car forum, so he is either a paid shill or a proper sad tt. Or, he gets double points for being both.
Have a look at Turboblokes posting history, anything to say about that?This is a car forum, so he is either a paid shill or a proper sad t
t. Or, he gets double points for being both. Or is it just people you disagree with that must be shills?
chrispmartha said:
gizlaroc said:
If you look at young Fittster's posts for the last 3 months, he has not posted a single thing to do with cars, other than if it is has a political angle, ie. "oooh, must go EV."
This is a car forum, so he is either a paid shill or a proper sad tt. Or, he gets double points for being both.
Have a look at Turboblokes posting history, anything to say about that?This is a car forum, so he is either a paid shill or a proper sad t
t. Or, he gets double points for being both. Or is it just people you disagree with that must be shills?
Both sides guilty here.
gizlaroc said:
If you look at young Fittster's posts for the last 3 months, he has not posted a single thing to do with cars, other than if it is has a political angle, ie. "oooh, must go EV."
This is a car forum, so he is either a paid shill or a proper sad tt. Or, he gets double points for being both.
Not able to understand the impact of Brexit or check someones posting history. Brexiter struggles with facts, shocker.This is a car forum, so he is either a paid shill or a proper sad t
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