Brexit - was it worth it? (Vol. 2)
Discussion
Environment, Food and Rural Affairs committee
Since the Transition Period ended, Defra has worked with stakeholders to resolve these teething problems and we commend its efforts. However, the new non-tariff barriers for exporters to the EU will impose substantive and enduring costs. As a result, larger businesses may move the processing of seafood and meat to the EU, while smaller businesses may find that exporting food to the EU is unviable
The Government should engage with the EU and adopt a pragmatic stance in the pursuit of a veterinary partnership agreement that reduces the non-tariff measures adversely affecting British seafood and meat exporters.
https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/5701...
Since the Transition Period ended, Defra has worked with stakeholders to resolve these teething problems and we commend its efforts. However, the new non-tariff barriers for exporters to the EU will impose substantive and enduring costs. As a result, larger businesses may move the processing of seafood and meat to the EU, while smaller businesses may find that exporting food to the EU is unviable
The Government should engage with the EU and adopt a pragmatic stance in the pursuit of a veterinary partnership agreement that reduces the non-tariff measures adversely affecting British seafood and meat exporters.
https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/5701...
gizlaroc said:
If you look at young Fittster's posts for the last 3 months, he has not posted a single thing to do with cars, other than if it is has a political angle, ie. "oooh, must go EV."
This is a car forum, so he is either a paid shill or a proper sad t
t. Or, he gets double points for being both.
Doesn't mean he has no interest in cars, I am also guilty of that and more likely to post about cycling....This is a car forum, so he is either a paid shill or a proper sad t
t. Or, he gets double points for being both. For my car chat fix, I have a WhatsApp group of close friends who are car obsessed.
chrispmartha said:
Have a look at Turboblokes posting history, anything to say about that?
Or is it just people you disagree with that must be shills?
At least he has a garage, he has an interest in cars, someone joining to keep posting negative news reports is just a bit weird. Or is it just people you disagree with that must be shills?
It's not the arguments for or against that I find weird, it is going round finding every news piece that says Brexit is bad.
The reality is, many are already seeing the benefits. That is why I only check in here every once in a while, it has happened, I have moved on.
Even though we wasted the full 12 month transition period, even though we agreed the deal a couple of days before Xmas, and even though we were in the middle of a lockdown, it hasn't been the s
tshow I thought it might be. It has been a complete pain in the arse, mainly due to customs and revenue's ineptitude, and the fact the couriers are taking the piss and trying to rip people off, but it is now sorting itself out, 6 months of hassle over half a century or so will soon be forgotten.
Of course there will be many who can't believe it has happened, of course there will be many who find it harder (certainly to start with), but also there are as many who are seeing benefits.
For me it s a tricky one. Personally I would have been better to remain, but I do think we, and not just he UK here, start to look after our own a bit more going forward, we can't just carry on outsourcing production to whichever country still has cheap labour or importing labour to whoever will do it the cheapest just so we can all live this lavish lifestyle so many of us are used to.
I was about to buy a place in Spain, that is now pretty much off the cards, Brexit and now Covid has killed it. But hey ho, it is what it is.
Fittster said:
gizlaroc said:
If you look at young Fittster's posts for the last 3 months, he has not posted a single thing to do with cars, other than if it is has a political angle, ie. "oooh, must go EV."
This is a car forum, so he is either a paid shill or a proper sad tt. Or, he gets double points for being both.
Not able to understand the impact of Brexit or check someones posting history. Brexiter struggles with facts, shocker.This is a car forum, so he is either a paid shill or a proper sad t
t. Or, he gets double points for being both. Fittster said:
Environment, Food and Rural Affairs committee
Since the Transition Period ended, Defra has worked with stakeholders to resolve these teething problems and we commend its efforts. However, the new non-tariff barriers for exporters to the EU will impose substantive and enduring costs. As a result, larger businesses may move the processing of seafood and meat to the EU, while smaller businesses may find that exporting food to the EU is unviable
The Government should engage with the EU and adopt a pragmatic stance in the pursuit of a veterinary partnership agreement that reduces the non-tariff measures adversely affecting British seafood and meat exporters.
https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/5701...
As if by magic Mr. Fits'sir appears....Since the Transition Period ended, Defra has worked with stakeholders to resolve these teething problems and we commend its efforts. However, the new non-tariff barriers for exporters to the EU will impose substantive and enduring costs. As a result, larger businesses may move the processing of seafood and meat to the EU, while smaller businesses may find that exporting food to the EU is unviable
The Government should engage with the EU and adopt a pragmatic stance in the pursuit of a veterinary partnership agreement that reduces the non-tariff measures adversely affecting British seafood and meat exporters.
https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/5701...
jesusbuiltmycar said:
Doesn't mean he has no interest in cars, I am also guilty of that and more likely to post about cycling....
For my car chat fix, I have a WhatsApp group of close friends who are car obsessed.
Do you keep finding negative news articles to post about Sram to back up your unhealthy obsession with Shimano? Every.....single.......bloody day! For my car chat fix, I have a WhatsApp group of close friends who are car obsessed.
DeltonaS said:
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
633Squadron said:
Have we had this yet?
Brexit: European Parliament backs UK trade deal
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56899831
Frost happy
Boris happy
Barnier not happy
Verhofstadt not happy
I give it 20 minutes before it is turned into a negative.Brexit: European Parliament backs UK trade deal
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56899831
Frost happy
Boris happy
Barnier not happy
Verhofstadt not happy
- Edit.... And right on cue, Deltona beats me to it while I was typing that
Did you have to change your typewrtiter ribbon ?
Ultimately though, I saw the post from 633, replied to it saying I bet it wouldn't be long before one of the usual suspects came along with some negativity, hit Submit, looked at the thread and there you were.... imagine my surprise
Edited by TriumphStag3.0V8 on Thursday 29th April 10:55
gizlaroc said:
chrispmartha said:
Have a look at Turboblokes posting history, anything to say about that?
Or is it just people you disagree with that must be shills?
At least he has a garage, he has an interest in cars, someone joining to keep posting negative news reports is just a bit weird. Or is it just people you disagree with that must be shills?
PH used to be and still is great for info when you're thinking of an addition to the garage, getting it then fettling it, with well-informed folks offering sound advice based on experience. My forum history has plenty of posts in Bentley / Merc AMG relatively recently and lots more in Porsche / Ferrari previously, as well as SP&L. Right now the garage is in steady state, happy days, even happier after brexit and posts reflect that. Onwards and sideways.
Earthdweller said:
DeltonaS said:
Which took you 40 minutes to type ?
Did you have to change your typewrtiter ribbon ?
It was provided under an EU procurement programme .. Did you have to change your typewrtiter ribbon ?
Hence the delay
gizlaroc said:
Fittster said:
gizlaroc said:
If you look at young Fittster's posts for the last 3 months, he has not posted a single thing to do with cars, other than if it is has a political angle, ie. "oooh, must go EV."
This is a car forum, so he is either a paid shill or a proper sad tt. Or, he gets double points for being both.
Not able to understand the impact of Brexit or check someones posting history. Brexiter struggles with facts, shocker.This is a car forum, so he is either a paid shill or a proper sad t
t. Or, he gets double points for being both. Loads of us PHers joined a tvr forum when we had tvrs but stayed long after the cars went as the website evolved into not just being a tvr forum.
sunbeam alpine said:
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Should that not be more alarming for the German companies that are now turning away customers? What portion of their trade are they losing?
I can't speak for Germany, but I have the impression that quite a lot of EU companies were actively seeking alternative markets in the period between the referendum and the UK's exit. One of the companies I supply was achieving about 65% of their turnover in sales to the UK back in 2016. By the end of last year they had completely ceased supplying into the UK.Does that also mean that there is now a gap in the market for someone to fill in that 65% drop in sales? or have other companies picked up the slack?
gizlaroc said:
jesusbuiltmycar said:
Doesn't mean he has no interest in cars, I am also guilty of that and more likely to post about cycling....
For my car chat fix, I have a WhatsApp group of close friends who are car obsessed.
Do you keep finding negative news articles to post about Sram to back up your unhealthy obsession with Shimano? Every.....single.......bloody day! For my car chat fix, I have a WhatsApp group of close friends who are car obsessed.
I have SRAM on 3 bikes and Shimano on another (I also have a Campag wheel set).
El stovey said:
gizlaroc said:
Fittster said:
gizlaroc said:
If you look at young Fittster's posts for the last 3 months, he has not posted a single thing to do with cars, other than if it is has a political angle, ie. "oooh, must go EV."
This is a car forum, so he is either a paid shill or a proper sad tt. Or, he gets double points for being both.
Not able to understand the impact of Brexit or check someones posting history. Brexiter struggles with facts, shocker.This is a car forum, so he is either a paid shill or a proper sad t
t. Or, he gets double points for being both. Loads of us PHers joined a tvr forum when we had tvrs but stayed long after the cars went as the website evolved into not just being a tvr forum.
Meanwhile, on-topic, brexit sure was worth it.
Charles Moore in The Telegraph wrote a couple of days ago about one clear advantage for him. He has just got his new British passport and says that it's "more rationally laid out" than the EU one. He says that even if his new passport "will probably gain me access to fewer advantages than my old one" and "restricts my previously greater freedom of movement" he claims that "I don't care". A more rationally laid out passport versus freedom of movement. It's a hard one. 
Randy Winkman said:
Charles Moore in The Telegraph wrote a couple of days ago about one clear advantage for him. He has just got his new British passport and says that it's "more rationally laid out" than the EU one. He says that even if his new passport "will probably gain me access to fewer advantages than my old one" and "restricts my previously greater freedom of movement" he claims that "I don't care". A more rationally laid out passport versus freedom of movement. It's a hard one.
And as we know those are the only two factors to consider.
Comedy gold.
gizlaroc said:
If you look at young Fittster's posts for the last 3 months, he has not posted a single thing to do with cars, other than if it is has a political angle, ie. "oooh, must go EV."
This is a car forum, so he is either a paid shill or a proper sad tt. Or, he gets double points for being both.
Its amusing, I questioned a remainer on here once, and rather than engage in the topic, he (yes, sorry I assumed gender there) responded by trying to insult the number of cars I have.This is a car forum, so he is either a paid shill or a proper sad t
t. Or, he gets double points for being both. On a car forum!
Desperate.
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
gizlaroc said:
If you look at young Fittster's posts for the last 3 months, he has not posted a single thing to do with cars, other than if it is has a political angle, ie. "oooh, must go EV."
This is a car forum, so he is either a paid shill or a proper sad tt. Or, he gets double points for being both.
Its amusing, I questioned a remainer on here once, and rather than engage in the topic, he (yes, sorry I assumed gender there) responded by trying to insult the number of cars I have.This is a car forum, so he is either a paid shill or a proper sad t
t. Or, he gets double points for being both. On a car forum!
Desperate.
turbobloke said:
And as we know those are the only two factors to consider.
Comedy gold.
At least you’ll be off living as an
Winner winner Pad Thai dinner for you, you get the ideological victory you’ve been banging on about on here for years and you’ll suffer zero negative consequences if it doesn’t work out.
Odd you’re still complaining about the EU though?
Don’t worry, us people still working and living in the U.K. will do our best to make sure it’s a success .
turbobloke said:
Randy Winkman said:
Charles Moore in The Telegraph wrote a couple of days ago about one clear advantage for him. He has just got his new British passport and says that it's "more rationally laid out" than the EU one. He says that even if his new passport "will probably gain me access to fewer advantages than my old one" and "restricts my previously greater freedom of movement" he claims that "I don't care". A more rationally laid out passport versus freedom of movement. It's a hard one.
And as we know those are the only two factors to consider.
Comedy gold.
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