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An interesting point on the earthquakes (perhaps 'tremors' would be a less emotional word to use) on R4 on 'Today' this morning. The chap who did the research for the government report made the point that the tremors were of a similar magnitude to those that have occurred for many decades due to coal mining and that plenty of a similar magnitude happen naturally in the area every year.
fido said:
turbobloke said:
A powerful group of Conservative ministers has launched an attempt to torpedo the coalition’s flagship “green” home improvement scheme in a move which will spark a major new rift with the Liberal Democrats. Leading Tories inside and outside the cabinet believe the £14 billion “Green Deal” – due to start in six months’ time – must be ditched because it risks leaving key “squeezed middle” voters out of pocket by several thousands of pounds. A senior Tory source told The Sunday Telegraph last night: “The Green Deal was Chris Huhne’s baby. He has gone now and this is the right time to kill it off. Forcing people to pay thousands of pounds extra for unwanted home insulation is the last thing hard-pressed families need at the moment. It’s madness.”
Patrick Hennessy, The Sunday Telegraph, 15 April 2012
Not sure, if that deserves to be in the 'Anti-Green' category; 'Anti-Moronic-Ideas' would be more appropriate. Ironic that a so-called 'liberal' could force someone to improve their home!Patrick Hennessy, The Sunday Telegraph, 15 April 2012
"It's hard to persuade those of the first view above to change their mind. They are a small minority in society and impervious to the evidence, but they are heavily over-represented among old, rightwing men, i.e the Conservative party."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/damian-carri...
rovermorris999 said:
An interesting point on the earthquakes (perhaps 'tremors' would be a less emotional word to use) on R4 on 'Today' this morning. The chap who did the research for the government report made the point that the tremors were of a similar magnitude to those that have occurred for many decades due to coal mining and that plenty of a similar magnitude happen naturally in the area every year.
I heard this morning on the radio that the area of movement was within a radius of a couple of hundred metres and that the adjustment was in the region of one centimetredickymint said:
Same report essentially in the telegraph...http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/92...
dickymint said:
Wow, that's gonna piss the Greenies off, and a few MPs I should thinkA new blogger at the DT debuts with giving fracking a thumbs up and the Guardian a kicking.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/timworstall/1...
Pointman
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/timworstall/1...
Pointman
Pointman said:
A new blogger at the DT debuts with giving fracking a thumbs up and the Guardian a kicking.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/timworstall/1...
Pointman
Thanks for the heads up. The guy is right we need to avoid forward-to-the-Middle-Ages but while in transit we need to avoid sideways-to-the-Dark-Ages as well.http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/timworstall/1...
Pointman
Also while travelling through poor reception this morning did I really catch the unbiased BBC ho ho courtesy of Radio 4 which I caught bits of and which seemed to be airing the most blatant mythology about shale gas, I even thought I heard a repeat of the 'flaming taps in the kitchen' jibberish. And as a big surprise The Guardian's coverage was mentioned. But to cap it all I thought I heard our good friend Juniper hard at it, but no sign of any counterbalancing views signalling how even handed and impartial the BBC are. Clearly I missed these balancing acts when radio reception was dodgy. Then again maybe not.
Right on Cue.
Britain Gives Shale Gas Fracking Green Light
The UK government on Tuesday backed the exploration of shale gas nearly one year after it temporarily banned the drilling method which triggered two earthquakes in Britain but that has also revolutionised the U.S. energy market. An expert report commissioned by the government said shale gas fracking, a process where pressurised water and chemicals are pumped underground to open shale rocks and release trapped gas, was safe to resume with tighter rules on seismic monitoring and drilling surveys.
Alessandra Prentice, Reuters, 17 April 2012
Lancashire is set to become the centre of Britain’s energy future, after regulators gave the green light for fracking to return. A report published today by the Department for Energy and Climate Change said that energy giant Cuadrilla Resources should be allowed to restart work at its drilling rig in the Lancashire countryside.
Lancashire Evening Post, 17 April 2012
Blast From theMiddle Ages Past
Chris Huhne in particular is renowned for his uninhibited antagonism towards natural gas. At the Liberal Democrat party conference in Birmingham last week he promised to halt a new "dash for gas" because it would undermine the UK's unilateral climate targets. David Cameron would be well advised not to allow his green minister to squander Britain's golden shale gas opportunity.
Benny Peiser, Public Service Europe, 27 September 2011
Britain Gives Shale Gas Fracking Green Light
The UK government on Tuesday backed the exploration of shale gas nearly one year after it temporarily banned the drilling method which triggered two earthquakes in Britain but that has also revolutionised the U.S. energy market. An expert report commissioned by the government said shale gas fracking, a process where pressurised water and chemicals are pumped underground to open shale rocks and release trapped gas, was safe to resume with tighter rules on seismic monitoring and drilling surveys.
Alessandra Prentice, Reuters, 17 April 2012
Lancashire is set to become the centre of Britain’s energy future, after regulators gave the green light for fracking to return. A report published today by the Department for Energy and Climate Change said that energy giant Cuadrilla Resources should be allowed to restart work at its drilling rig in the Lancashire countryside.
Lancashire Evening Post, 17 April 2012
Blast From the
Chris Huhne in particular is renowned for his uninhibited antagonism towards natural gas. At the Liberal Democrat party conference in Birmingham last week he promised to halt a new "dash for gas" because it would undermine the UK's unilateral climate targets. David Cameron would be well advised not to allow his green minister to squander Britain's golden shale gas opportunity.
Benny Peiser, Public Service Europe, 27 September 2011
turbobloke said:
Thanks for the heads up. The guy is right we need to avoid forward-to-the-Middle-Ages but while in transit we need to avoid sideways-to-the-Dark-Ages as well.
Also while travelling through poor reception this morning did I really catch the unbiased BBC ho ho courtesy of Radio 4 which I caught bits of and which seemed to be airing the most blatant mythology about shale gas, I even thought I heard a repeat of the 'flaming taps in the kitchen' jibberish. And as a big surprise The Guardian's coverage was mentioned. But to cap it all I thought I heard our good friend Juniper hard at it, but no sign of any counterbalancing views signalling how even handed and impartial the BBC are. Clearly I missed these balancing acts when radio reception was dodgy. Then again maybe not.
Juniper was on Five Live this morning. His comments sandwiched an interesting interview with a Canadian fracking expert. Juniper huffed and puffed about the usual stuff. Listing Global warming, earthquakes, water contamintion, etc.Also while travelling through poor reception this morning did I really catch the unbiased BBC ho ho courtesy of Radio 4 which I caught bits of and which seemed to be airing the most blatant mythology about shale gas, I even thought I heard a repeat of the 'flaming taps in the kitchen' jibberish. And as a big surprise The Guardian's coverage was mentioned. But to cap it all I thought I heard our good friend Juniper hard at it, but no sign of any counterbalancing views signalling how even handed and impartial the BBC are. Clearly I missed these balancing acts when radio reception was dodgy. Then again maybe not.
The Canadian chap merely stated his case. Admitting that there were issues that need regulation and enforcement and mentioned that there were many thousands of wells in North America, none of which had caused any major or even significant earthquakes.
Juniper was allowed to retort, of course, He merely blustered once more. I enjoyed that the Canadian totally ignored Juniper and his 'points'.
Finally, Juniper was introduced as Jupiter by the interviewer. Which peeved him somewhat.
Pointman said:
A new blogger at the DT debuts with giving fracking a thumbs up and the Guardian a kicking.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/timworstall/1...
Pointman
"Do we all get to be warm and toasty for a century or more or do more pictures fall off Lancastrian walls as they shake and tremble alongside the piercing of Gaia's veil?http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/timworstall/1...
Pointman
Put like that's it's pretty clear isn't it? Sorry, Blackpool."
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