General Election July 2024
Discussion
Rufus Stone said:
Has anyone actually said Labour will solve all the problems within a week?
They are going to need a couple of terms at least.
Won't happen will it!They are going to need a couple of terms at least.
People will get so fed up of Labour being unable to deliver the impossible (if they even have a plan) within one term that'll we'll end up swinging from one party to the other for the next few decades.
I want the Tories out because they have shown themselves to be a bunch of crooks and liars, but I don't expect Labour to do any better.
S600BSB said:
Rufus Stone said:
snuffy said:
I find it interesting that people keep saying "14 years of this shambolic government". And yet, 5 years ago, after 9 years of the shambolic government, those very same people re-elected them with a huge majority - so clearly, 5 years ago, they did not feel there had been 9 years of shambles.
Brexit, that was all it was about 5 years ago.croyde said:
Won't happen will it!
People will get so fed up of Labour being unable to deliver the impossible (if they even have a plan) within one term that'll we'll end up swinging from one party to the other for the next few decades.
I want the Tories out because they have shown themselves to be a bunch of crooks and liars, but I don't expect Labour to do any better.
The problem with the Tories is that the public are fed up with their in party bickering back stabbing and chaos. Boris started the whole thing off with his personal quest for power regardless of the collateral damage he did to the party/economy/general public. Since then its been a behaviour we have seen repeated, its utterly ridiculous. People will get so fed up of Labour being unable to deliver the impossible (if they even have a plan) within one term that'll we'll end up swinging from one party to the other for the next few decades.
I want the Tories out because they have shown themselves to be a bunch of crooks and liars, but I don't expect Labour to do any better.
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
S600BSB said:
Rufus Stone said:
snuffy said:
I find it interesting that people keep saying "14 years of this shambolic government". And yet, 5 years ago, after 9 years of the shambolic government, those very same people re-elected them with a huge majority - so clearly, 5 years ago, they did not feel there had been 9 years of shambles.
Brexit, that was all it was about 5 years ago.Wait….
p1stonhead said:
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
S600BSB said:
Rufus Stone said:
snuffy said:
I find it interesting that people keep saying "14 years of this shambolic government". And yet, 5 years ago, after 9 years of the shambolic government, those very same people re-elected them with a huge majority - so clearly, 5 years ago, they did not feel there had been 9 years of shambles.
Brexit, that was all it was about 5 years ago.Wait….
isaldiri said:
All of which were known in 2017 when the Corbyn led Labour in that general election where plenty of people did vote for them so toxic liability or not, the point was that the reason why Labour got battered in 2019 was directly brexit related rather than necessarily just due to Corbyn.
Yes. It was all known in 2017 and in 2019 Starmer told us that Corbyn should be Prime Minister. We should bear that in mind.p1stonhead said:
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
S600BSB said:
Rufus Stone said:
snuffy said:
I find it interesting that people keep saying "14 years of this shambolic government". And yet, 5 years ago, after 9 years of the shambolic government, those very same people re-elected them with a huge majority - so clearly, 5 years ago, they did not feel there had been 9 years of shambles.
Brexit, that was all it was about 5 years ago.Wait….
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jan/05/c...
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/oct/04/i...
https://thecritic.co.uk/why-the-obr-is-wrong-about...
and 'how the economics profession got it wrong on brexit'
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2018/03/08/how-the-...
LSE said:
Some of the most widely cited predictions of the economic effects of Brexit rely on flawed analysis, particularly of the performance of the UK after it joined the EEC, and on the link between trade and productivity, write Ken Coutts (left), Graham Gudgin (University of Cambridge) and Jordan Buchanan (right) (Ulster University Economic Policy Centre). In order to restore public confidence in economic forecasting for major policy issues, economists need to use more relevant analyses, based on a wider range of evidence.
And now, back to how Labour will solve squat if elected.TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
p1stonhead said:
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
S600BSB said:
Rufus Stone said:
snuffy said:
I find it interesting that people keep saying "14 years of this shambolic government". And yet, 5 years ago, after 9 years of the shambolic government, those very same people re-elected them with a huge majority - so clearly, 5 years ago, they did not feel there had been 9 years of shambles.
Brexit, that was all it was about 5 years ago.Wait….
We’re just about to spend £5b is it, to make trade harder for UK companies
Blue62 said:
Slowboathome said:
What specific policies and measures are you hoping they will introduce?
Ooohhh a trap! I really don’t know, maybe drop the bats
t waste of money that is Rwanda, maybe increase border patrols and controls and finally open a constructive dialogue with the French. Maybe stop diverting everyone’s attention onto insignificant (in context) culture wars and put energy into improving living standards. Maybe put the nationalisation of utilities on the statute book. Perhaps you’ve got a few ideas of your own or perhaps you’d rather carp from the sidelines. If you think asking for policy ideas is 'carping from the sidelines' you'd be better off in the 'nasty Tories are responsible for everything that's wrong with my miserable life' thread.
turbobloke said:
And now, back to how Labour will solve squat if elected.
Yes. Maybe. Labour will do me no favours at all, but i'll still vote for them as the current clown government are really that bad. They have dug themselves the biggest, sttest hole they can find, and anyone replacing them will probably not be as bad as them. Thats how low the bar has gotten.p1stonhead said:
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
p1stonhead said:
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
S600BSB said:
Rufus Stone said:
snuffy said:
I find it interesting that people keep saying "14 years of this shambolic government". And yet, 5 years ago, after 9 years of the shambolic government, those very same people re-elected them with a huge majority - so clearly, 5 years ago, they did not feel there had been 9 years of shambles.
Brexit, that was all it was about 5 years ago.Wait….
We’re just about to spend £5b is it, to make trade harder for UK companies
I just felt like pushing a little dig back because unpleasant people like you seem to feel it's fine to insult people who voted in a way that you (and your buddies) didn't like.
Brexit is the worst thing those idiots created, anyone who thinks its good i assume doesn't do any business with Europe. What was super easy is now a redtape nightmare, EX1's, T1's, INCOTERMS like DAP, DDP etc. commodity codes and OGELS. I fking hate it, only a complete moron could have voted for it because it was obvious this was going to be the end result, no gain for anyone except for scumbags like Farage, Mogg & Johnson.
king hate it, only a complete moron could have voted for it because it was obvious this was going to be the end result, no gain for anyone except for scumbags like Farage, Mogg & Johnson.oddball1313 said:
Brexit is the worst thing those idiots created, anyone who thinks its good i assume doesn't do any business with Europe. What was super easy is now a redtape nightmare, EX1's, T1's, INCOTERMS like DAP, DDP etc. commodity codes and OGELS. I fking hate it, only a complete moron could have voted for it because it was obvious this was going to be the end result, no gain for anyone except for scumbags like Farage, Mogg & Johnson.
Want some cream for that butthurt, or do you feel better after that little rant?king hate it, only a complete moron could have voted for it because it was obvious this was going to be the end result, no gain for anyone except for scumbags like Farage, Mogg & Johnson.TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
For people like yourself, Brexit will be classed as a disaster whatever happened
Brexit for me has been really st when it comes to travelling within Europe, and it's about to get worse. We are pretty much a laughing stock in the EU.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crggd266zpmo
article said:
Lord Cameron said the UK government's powers to improve the scheme were limited as it is an EU scheme.
"The best thing we can do is prepare as much as we possibly can," he said.
"But we have to cope with it because we're a third country."
"The best thing we can do is prepare as much as we possibly can," he said.
"But we have to cope with it because we're a third country."
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
S600BSB said:
Rufus Stone said:
snuffy said:
I find it interesting that people keep saying "14 years of this shambolic government". And yet, 5 years ago, after 9 years of the shambolic government, those very same people re-elected them with a huge majority - so clearly, 5 years ago, they did not feel there had been 9 years of shambles.
Brexit, that was all it was about 5 years ago.TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Come on fellas, rant away, you can consider it therapy.
Labour might consider "joining the EU" in terms of rules to be able to smooth over some of the carnage that Brexit has created. How do you feel about that?https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-labour-party-br...
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