Climate protesters block roads
Discussion
AngryPartsBloke said:
CoolHands said:
The thing is if the police can respond like that (& when they eventually pulled the protesters off the bus on London Bridge yesterday) the question is why haven’t they done that immediately up till now? The protesters haven’t legally been able to block roads in this way so they should have been ripped out in all cases immediately.
Once again doesn’t make sense to ordinary people.
Have they not recently passed a bill aimed at preventing people from protesting in this way, empowering the police to now act in a way that could not before?Once again doesn’t make sense to ordinary people.
R Mutt said:
They didn't glue themselves to any public sector buildings whose pension funds will be invested in all sorts of evil companies
In my experience Local government pension schemes are making big strides in divesting themselves from polluting or anti social companies (arms, tobacco etc)Many public sector pensions aren't funded though, and just work cash in hand.
There was a low key protest outside the bank of England, but xr were taking on the financial sector today.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/sep/0...
Encouraging to read the police prevented 2 protestors from locking on to a building by searching them and finding superglue.
I'm still puzzled why the police don't just put cones round someone who has locked onto something and leave them to it... I assume they'll run out of food sooner or later.
Though I suppose protestors expect some sort of duty of care to be extended to them when they choose to put themselves in stupid positions (like the ones who tunnelled under a square near hs2 and then moaned their tunnel was unsafe, requiring a second tunnel to be dug to get them out)
Ian Geary said:
R Mutt said:
They didn't glue themselves to any public sector buildings whose pension funds will be invested in all sorts of evil companies
In my experience Local government pension schemes are making big strides in divesting themselves from polluting or anti social companies (arms, tobacco etc)Many public sector pensions aren't funded though, and just work cash in hand.
There was a low key protest outside the bank of England, but xr were taking on the financial sector today.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/sep/0...
Encouraging to read the police prevented 2 protestors from locking on to a building by searching them and finding superglue.
I'm still puzzled why the police don't just put cones round someone who has locked onto something and leave them to it... I assume they'll run out of food sooner or later.
Though I suppose protestors expect some sort of duty of care to be extended to them when they choose to put themselves in stupid positions (like the ones who tunnelled under a square near hs2 and then moaned their tunnel was unsafe, requiring a second tunnel to be dug to get them out)
Zumbruk said:
ntiz said:
I always wonder what these people actually want the world to look like?
They don't know, and don't care, so long as they are in charge.
king clue what the fk they're on about and want us all to starve to death.hidetheelephants said:
Zumbruk said:
ntiz said:
I always wonder what these people actually want the world to look like?
They don't know, and don't care, so long as they are in charge.king clue what the fk they're on about and want us all to starve to death.Rob_R said:
I mean, you could argue that absolutely everything that humans do is natural.
Even huge cities are 'natural' because they evolved from the behaviour of a species of animal which in turned evolved from the slime of pre-history. If we 'evolve' to extinction them we would be doing only what many other species have done before us.Rob_R said:
I mean, you could argue that absolutely everything that humans do is natural.
You could indeed, because it is.Positioning humans as somehow outside the biosphere is nonsensical, but when people of a certain misconception want to blame nasty humans for something, so that the guilty parties (wealthy humans and corporations) can be vilified and taxed more, that's what happens.
Our interventions are now biodiversity-friendly conservation-orientated. See 'Kuznets Curve' then see the Newbury Bypass report (Surrey Uni).
They were outside the pub I was in last night on London Bridge. I didn’t bother going out to see what was going on but there did seem to be quite a lot of them and nearly as many police.
If it’s an illegal action is there a reason that the police don’t just pick them out one at a time until they are all in the back of vans?
If it’s an illegal action is there a reason that the police don’t just pick them out one at a time until they are all in the back of vans?
ntiz said:
I always wonder what these people actually want the world to look like?
The 'world' would look like the five square miles around your house. You would walk to most places, use a bicycle for longer journeys or state subsidised public transport for the longest trips . Your world would be very local. You would only consume a plant-based diet. You wouldn't have any children and ideally wouldn't have any pets either. Any excess of anything that you are deemed to have in your possession will be seized and redistributed (land, money, kale), etc etc. You will derive an endless satisfaction from hectoring your friends and neighbours: "Oh you bought bamboo drinking straws? Well many don't think those are truly sustainable because..."With such puritanical people, they never see themselves as working in the salt mines, tractor factories or fruit fields themselves. They also think that you can win people over by either repeatedly inconveniencing them or giving them the equivalent of a disciplinary at work, but in their leisure time.
NapierDeltic said:
ntiz said:
I always wonder what these people actually want the world to look like?
The 'world' would look like the five square miles around your house. You would walk to most places, use a bicycle for longer journeys or state subsidised public transport for the longest trips . Your world would be very local. You would only consume a plant-based diet. You wouldn't have any children and ideally wouldn't have any pets either. Any excess of anything that you are deemed to have in your possession will be seized and redistributed (land, money, kale), etc etc. You will derive an endless satisfaction from hectoring your friends and neighbours: "Oh you bought bamboo drinking straws? Well many don't think those are truly sustainable because..."With such puritanical people, they never see themselves as working in the salt mines, tractor factories or fruit fields themselves. They also think that you can win people over by either repeatedly inconveniencing them or giving them the equivalent of a disciplinary at work, but in their leisure time.
Again apologies for a Twitter link but as Harry Tangye says slippery slope but they do seem a bit rubbish at criminal activity.
https://twitter.com/Ex_arv_sgt/status/143306239553...
https://twitter.com/Ex_arv_sgt/status/143306239553...
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