Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! Vol 3

Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! Vol 3

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andy_s

19,423 posts

260 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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biggbn said:
pquinn said:
Hants PHer said:
Garvin said:
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Vince was just the usual rabid green thinking wally - the worst performer by far. Everything is underfunded so just just tax everything harder and stick NI on CGT and then cut oil and gas production and invest heavily in green energy which will solve the GDP problem with twice as many jobs in oil and gas being produced. Then, in answer to where these jobs would be filled from, had the temerity to state that they would be filled by transferring skills from the lost oil & gas jobs - I think I see a bit of a flaw in that wonderfully thought through strategy - just a complete tt.
I'm glad it's not just me that thinks that Dale Vince is a weapons grade fool. He is so blinded by his green agenda that he blurts out these nonsense strategies without a hint of pragmatism. The other day he was on the radio insisting that North Sea gas could be replaced with biogas, which would involve converting all our arable and dairy land to grass production; the grass would then be composted, in essence. "What about food production?" he was asked, and blithely replied that we could just import all our food needs. He also has no idea, he says, what Just Stop Oil do with the money he donates to them. He's a hippy eco warrior pretending to be a serious thinker; file under 'fool', I say.
A less generous person might say his interest in green strategies only goes as far as working out what cut he can get himself from it.

It's not like he's exactly given away all his green energy spoils so far is it?
Why should he?
He can do what he wants with our money.

https://davidturver.substack.com/p/demolishing-dal...

Dale, like green energy, requires subsidy from us so energy is cheaper for us...

[btw I'm not knocking the idea of green energy, but like almost everything at the moment, the execution is poor, costs high and there is no acknowledgment of the nature - a complex system - which knocks on to the planning and joining up of everything. It's piecemeal patching atm - see respective political party positions]

crankedup5

9,692 posts

36 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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bhstewie said:
crankedup5 said:
I thought he presented very well.
Cranked I know you feel compelled to do the tribal contrarian thing but seriously?

His performance was a skipfire.
Labour lady was even worse, being as she is also on the ‘need to impress’ express train I thought she was weak. ‘we want our kids to get off to a good start’ I mean really is that the best she has. Lamentable.
Mercer was under attack of course, but he done well batting away most of the comments.

tamore

7,066 posts

285 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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andy_s said:
He can do what he wants with our money.

https://davidturver.substack.com/p/demolishing-dal...

Dale, like green energy, requires subsidy from us so energy is cheaper for us...

[btw I'm not knocking the idea of green energy, but like almost everything at the moment, the execution is poor, costs high and there is no acknowledgment of the nature - a complex system - which knocks on to the planning and joining up of everything. It's piecemeal patching atm - see respective political party positions]
the 4/5 year cycle. only way to stop it is to make it apolitical and for such strategic initiatives form a cross party group to deliver.

pork911

7,268 posts

184 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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andy_s said:
Dale, like green energy, requires subsidy from us so energy is cheaper for us...
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/mar/09/fossil-fuels-more-support-uk-than-renewables-since-2015

johnboy1975

8,429 posts

109 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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pork911 said:
andy_s said:
Dale, like green energy, requires subsidy from us so energy is cheaper for us...
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/mar/09/fossil-fuels-more-support-uk-than-renewables-since-2015
Boris said "Here's 80b"...(I don't recall the gnashing of teeth?) - or they received an 80b tax discount for making future investment in the sector? Fundamentally different IMO (YMMV)

The 60b given to renewables was just that - given (through the 25% green subsidy on UK power bills). (AIUI)

hidetheelephants

24,963 posts

194 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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pork911 said:
andy_s said:
Dale, like green energy, requires subsidy from us so energy is cheaper for us...
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/mar/09/fossil-fuels-more-support-uk-than-renewables-since-2015
Imagine that, a capital-intensive business sector benefits from a longterm tax incentive that encourages reinvestment. Clutch those pearls! The amount is governed by the amount reinvested by corporations, I'd be surprised if the same isn't case in wind power so the problem is the private sector doesn't want to invest on the same scale.

hidetheelephants

24,963 posts

194 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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What a load of ignorant gufftraps; this programme needs putting out of its misery or far stricter criteria for picking people for the panel. Randoms off the street would be as poorly informed.

hiccy18

2,713 posts

68 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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hidetheelephants said:
What a load of ignorant gufftraps; this programme needs putting out of its misery or far stricter criteria for picking people for the panel. Randoms off the street would be as poorly informed.
It used to be really quite interesting at times. The downturn in quality can't purely be down to Bruce taking over the reigns, there's a large team involved in selecting the panel & questions, but the host change and covid did no favours (and I was never a particular fan of Dimbleby).

thetapeworm

11,320 posts

240 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Even the way some of the audience members can have their minute of bizarre ramblings and then there be no response before they leave things unchecked and go onto the next nutter is grating on me now. It used to be mildly amusing to see what kind of lunatics are out there and voting.

I know the panel is supposed to be representative but I'd have expected some kind of expert on climate change and net zero policies to be on this week, maybe they're all booked up elsewhere.

crankedup5

9,692 posts

36 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Tried to watch it last night, first question asked of the panel and Bruce interrupted him in his first five seconds of giving his answer. Gutter programme not worth the effort of watching now.

Rusty Old-Banger

4,092 posts

214 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Normal for Ipswich. Innit buh.

anonymoususer

5,974 posts

49 months

Thursday 28th September 2023
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Tonight BBC1 10.40pm
It's from "up North" and that means only one woman can be on from Labour she has won 3 elections and is actually the real angel of the north. She has northness in her fibre
Lisa Nandy

The others don't matter this all about the Nandy



Edited by anonymoususer on Thursday 28th September 18:04

Digger

14,720 posts

192 months

Thursday 28th September 2023
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What's Matt LeBlanc doing on there.

Hi Henri, & what do you do? I'm a Northern Powerhouse!

anonymoususer

5,974 posts

49 months

Thursday 28th September 2023
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Digger said:
What's Matt LeBlanc doing on there.

Hi Henri, & what do you do? I'm a Northern Powerhouse!
He has come to see The Nandy.
That is all that is necessary.

This is Lisa gesturing to John about going for a pint after conference

tamore

7,066 posts

285 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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can't remember the politicians on QT being highlighted as quite so incompetent by the other guests.

mikeiow

5,447 posts

131 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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Digger said:
What's Matt LeBlanc doing on there.
How YOU doin? hehe

hidetheelephants

24,963 posts

194 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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tamore said:
can't remember the politicians on QT being highlighted as quite so incompetent by the other guests.
Whoever the tory was demonstrated that every time they opened their mouth; when you make Ashworth sound reasoned and mature it's time to seek another career.

PushedDover

5,702 posts

54 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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Ashworth was peak odious snivelling and snide ste last night.

Horrid man

bitchstewie

51,901 posts

211 months

markbigears

2,280 posts

270 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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Is “black guy” offensive these days?