CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 10)

CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 10)

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anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Excel at nothing.

pquinn

7,167 posts

47 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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danllama said:
Another tick off the conspiracy list.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs...
It's bandwagon jumping - 'digital currencies exist so we need to have one'. Not that any of the coins work as currency, only as an unregulated tradable asset.

It solves a problem that doesn't exist - literally the only thing you achieve with this is offline wallets and private transactions, with nothing but extra cost and complexity compared to existing physical cash.

The main backbone is still banks and transfers and a new pegged token adds nothing to it whoever issues it.

It's a bit like people who suggest blockchain as a solution to everything when it's almost never a great alternative.



For the conspiracy theorists this also doesn't work - the idea of eliminating cash was to make all transactions traceable through the bank system and introducing an electronic cash proxy doesn't work for making that happen either. So I wouldn't worry about it.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

171 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Seems like hmg are ramping up the testing in schools once they go back.

Keep hearing ads on the radio!

isaldiri

18,747 posts

169 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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bodhi said:
I'd be more tempted to call them "Influencers" rather than Experts tbh.

And yes, that is meant as an insult.
But that is the crazy thing about this whole mess in many respects. Ignore sturgeons pet 'scientist' for the moment. Greenhaigh definitely isn't some crank like Sridhar but has been utterly bizarre in what she has been doing and basically threw out her entire career of 'evidence based medicine' in becoming an utter mask loon. Her deranged rant against the danmask study very clearly showed that when just about every other commentator observed it was at minimum a well run study that had results that were inconclusive.

A lot of the very certain proclamations by both sides of scientists have become articles of faith and refusing to accept any uncertainty other than what they believe which is utterly at odds in many respects to what those people have been studying their entirely professional lives. Quite mystifying tbh....



Smollet

10,671 posts

191 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Alucidnation

16,810 posts

171 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Smollet said:
'We welcome this funding which recognises the vital role our pubs have played during the virus and should continue to play as the heart of our communities as we recover.'


What vital role?

They have been shut.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Smollet said:
Nice of the government to lend cash to save the pubs they singled out for lockdown punishment. Muppets!

isaldiri

18,747 posts

169 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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bodhi said:
Do we know if there is a similar surveillance report available for Australia / New Zealand? We know flu disappeared there last season (July/August), would be fascinating to see if it has the same effect on the other viruses in circulation also. However I can't help thinking the big effect has been in the lack of travel - or more specifically, the fact that not many people are traveling in and out of China, as it seems curious that the only places it is still around are SE Asia and Sub Saharan Africa, areas China are very heavily invested in.
There was a similar phe report for New South Wales I believe. I did see one a while back - it was remarkably similar to here tbh, over their winter, hardly any flu or other viruses other than rhinovirus. We had rhinovirus and covid obviously but the Aussies had managed to keep covid down so the viral hierarchy of flu being outcompeted thing kind of falls down a bit I think.

I think RSV which had been nonexistent was ticking up though recently though.

P.S SE Asia has had a lot of travel/quarantine type controls though. If flu is still around there it isn't going to be from mainland chinese travellers...

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

199 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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isaldiri said:
But that is the crazy thing about this whole mess in many respects. Ignore sturgeons pet 'scientist' for the moment. Greenhaigh definitely isn't some crank like Sridhar but has been utterly bizarre in what she has been doing and basically threw out her entire career of 'evidence based medicine' in becoming an utter mask loon. Her deranged rant against the danmask study very clearly showed that when just about every other commentator observed it was at minimum a well run study that had results that were inconclusive.

A lot of the very certain proclamations by both sides of scientists have become articles of faith and refusing to accept any uncertainty other than what they believe which is utterly at odds in many respects to what those people have been studying their entirely professional lives. Quite mystifying tbh....
At odds to what they should have been doing. Many scientists skipped, or quickly forget, the principles and philosophy of the method, and busy themselves with "proving" what they believe. Or chasing grants. It's not at all uncommon, particularly when you add a bit of power and money into the mix.

Boringvolvodriver

9,024 posts

44 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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garyhun said:
Smollet said:
Nice of the government to lend cash to save the pubs they singled out for lockdown punishment. Muppets!
The devil will be in the detail although it sounds to me that if the community put up £250k, the government will provide(in some shape or form) the same amount.

Not sure it will quite the lifeline the BBPA appear to think it is.

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Boringvolvodriver said:
garyhun said:
Smollet said:
Nice of the government to lend cash to save the pubs they singled out for lockdown punishment. Muppets!
The devil will be in the detail although it sounds to me that if the community put up £250k, the government will provide(in some shape or form) the same amount.

Not sure it will quite the lifeline the BBPA appear to think it is.
Also is it a grant, or repayable.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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The pub thing is a buck-passer. You get clueless kamoonitee types who will fall out with one another endlessly whilst having no idea how to run a pub or even hire someone to run a pub and eventually the breweries will have snaffled up the taxpayer cash and the pub will become a fleet of new "The Dorchester, luxury 4 bedroom living" type boxes with 9 en suite bathrooms and no space.


paulw123

3,270 posts

191 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Alucidnation said:
Seems like hmg are ramping up the testing in schools once they go back.

Keep hearing ads on the radio!
The government ads have been pretty cringe but the new schools one is a whole new level

V1nce Fox

5,508 posts

69 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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paulw123 said:
The government ads have been pretty cringe but the new schools one is a whole new level
Every aspect of school testing is entirely voluntary.

Jasandjules

70,012 posts

230 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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garyhun said:
Smollet said:
Nice of the government to lend cash to save the pubs they singled out for lockdown punishment. Muppets!
It is a bit like them saying now "save your gran" whilst the NHS Heroes went around slapping DNRs on the elderly and mentally disabled.......

Carrot

7,294 posts

203 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Jasandjules said:
garyhun said:
Smollet said:
Nice of the government to lend cash to save the pubs they singled out for lockdown punishment. Muppets!
It is a bit like them saying now "save your gran" whilst the NHS Heroes went around slapping DNRs on the elderly and mentally disabled.......
It's never grandad is it... they should amend the slogan

Stay at home, save lives, fk grandad...

blade runner

1,035 posts

213 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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V1nce Fox said:
Every aspect of school testing is entirely voluntary.
But you really wouldn't know that from all the radio ads and news features.

There was one last night on our local segment at the end of the BBC national 10pm news. Long feature on how all secondary pupils would now 'need' to be tested on return to school from next week, interviews with current key worker pupils and teachers saying how easy it was and how much safer it made them feel etc. Absolutely no mention of the fact that it's not actually mandatory - in fact they made it sound like it was a no-question, full-on requirement for pupils being allowed back into school. But of course I'd expect nothing less from the paragon of balanced journalism that's the BBC.

ant1973

5,693 posts

206 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Another decent take on the WFH debate.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/02/forget...

I find myself largely in agreement with the sentiment but accept that I might just be old!

MiseryStreak

2,929 posts

208 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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anonymous said:
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This is 100% true. My wife was away for a week and asked if I wanted to be added to the WhatsApp group. I politely declined. I get 65 emails a day from the school, hard to imagine I’ll miss something vital.

They all seem like rational, intelligent, well-informed mums to speak with. They’re a whole heap of mental on there. It’s like WhatsApp is a portal to their Karenzilla subconscious hive mind. Swivel-eyed loons the lot of ‘em.

Carrot

7,294 posts

203 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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ant1973 said:
Another decent take on the WFH debate.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/02/forget...

I find myself largely in agreement with the sentiment but accept that I might just be old!
Paywall, whats the gist?
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