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Digga

40,595 posts

285 months

Friday 31st December 2021
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LukeBrown66 said:
What is interesting here is the few women that are involved, all English it seems or maybe gypsy I can't tell, one of them had an Irish name, maybe used to get hold of these girls and seemingly rent out property to these rapists.
For every Epstein there’s very probably a Maxwell. Scum, the lot.

Digga

40,595 posts

285 months

Friday 31st December 2021
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fesuvious said:
For every abuser member of a gang (abusing non muslim girls) with an Islamic name there's another with a non-islamic name.

Oh, no, wait that's not right is it?
Ringleader wise it may be closer to the truth. We’ll never know.

LimSlip

800 posts

56 months

Saturday 1st January 2022
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Seems like the Rotherham police are up to their previous tricks.

julianm

1,553 posts

203 months

Wednesday 5th January 2022
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`Lord Ahmed` found guilty - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorksh...

Hope the sentence is very very long.

princeperch

7,961 posts

249 months

Wednesday 5th January 2022
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julianm said:
`Lord Ahmed` found guilty - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorksh...

Hope the sentence is very very long.
Quite randomly I looked around lord Ahmeds house a few weeks back. It's still for sale.

It gave me the creeps to say the least !

andymc

7,373 posts

209 months

Wednesday 5th January 2022
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julianm said:
`Lord Ahmed` found guilty - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorksh...

Hope the sentence is very very long.
plus his 2 brothers.

freakybacon

555 posts

165 months

Wednesday 5th January 2022
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andymc said:
julianm said:
`Lord Ahmed` found guilty - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorksh...

Hope the sentence is very very long.
plus his 2 brothers.

There were a lot of threads on Lord Ahmed back in 2009, as Google shows. A real wrong 'un.

JuanCarlosFandango

7,851 posts

73 months

Wednesday 5th January 2022
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freakybacon said:
andymc said:
julianm said:
`Lord Ahmed` found guilty - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorksh...

Hope the sentence is very very long.
plus his 2 brothers.

There were a lot of threads on Lord Ahmed back in 2009, as Google shows. A real wrong 'un.
A real upstanding citizen

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazir_Ahmed,_Baron...

A Councillor and Magistrate in Rotherham in the 1990s too...

2Btoo

3,455 posts

205 months

Wednesday 5th January 2022
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JuanCarlosFandango said:
A real upstanding citizen

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazir_Ahmed,_Baron...

A Councillor and Magistrate in Rotherham in the 1990s too...
Wow. What a piece of work.

And to think that he sat in our House of Lords.

andymc

7,373 posts

209 months

Wednesday 5th January 2022
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wker

Digga

40,595 posts

285 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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anonymous said:
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Utter scum. You just get the distinct impression that the wiki listing is just the bits he’s been caught doing, not the full extent.

HappyClappy

952 posts

75 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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Funny how some of these ‘politically correct’ types who speak out on all the trendy issues such as equality, race, gender and religion.

Turn out to be some of the most depraved racist bigots going.

I am not surprised the Rotherham rape gang problem went underreported or investigated for so long when you have this type of person as a councillor, magistrate and Lord.

andyA700

2,897 posts

39 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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HappyClappy said:
Funny how some of these ‘politically correct’ types who speak out on all the trendy issues such as equality, race, gender and religion.

Turn out to be some of the most depraved racist bigots going.

I am not surprised the Rotherham rape gang problem went underreported or investigated for so long when you have this type of person as a councillor, magistrate and Lord.
It is a really bad problem, which politicians, particularly in the Labour party (the party which I supported for decades) seem to ignore, lest they lose votes for going against a certain demographic.
Sarah Champion the Labour MP for Rotherham was hounded out of the shadow cabinet for shining light on this disgusting affair, even faced accusations of being racist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Champion

Naz Shah the Labour MP for Bradford went one step further and like a tweet by Owen Jones which said this:

"Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of diversity"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naz_Shah

Unfortunately, the Labour party now have a dark side to them, where MP's will try to sweep under the carpet any abuse carried out by members of a certain faith.
Here we have Jess Phillips comparing the shocking sexual attacks on German women in Cologne and other German cities, as being comparable to a night out in Birmingham. Over a thousand women were sexually assaulted in one night in Germany.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/29/labo...

Digga

40,595 posts

285 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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HappyClappy said:
Funny how some of these ‘politically correct’ types who speak out on all the trendy issues such as equality, race, gender and religion.

Turn out to be some of the most depraved racist bigots going.

I am not surprised the Rotherham rape gang problem went underreported or investigated for so long when you have this type of person as a councillor, magistrate and Lord.
Some - key word.

Like not all Catholic priests or 70's radio DJ's were paedos.

It's wrong to tar groups with the same brush but, at the same time, but conversely it is also very, very wrong to obfuscate the prevalence of certain groups in abuse, which was the case for far, far too long with abuse gangs. As you say, there has been a pretty extensive cover-up of the gangs and, even when it became public knowledge, the identity of the offenders was obfuscated - "Asian" - which cast suspicion on racial groups who are, we now know, totally uninvolved.

There's been a cover up by not only police but also civil service at national level. Was the civil servant who complained about Patel bully him not involved in witholding the report which she had asked to see?

carinaman

21,425 posts

174 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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andyA700 said:
It is a really bad problem, which politicians, particularly in the Labour party (the party which I supported for decades) seem to ignore, lest they lose votes for going against a certain demographic.
Sarah Champion the Labour MP for Rotherham was hounded out of the shadow cabinet for shining light on this disgusting affair, even faced accusations of being racist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Champion

Naz Shah the Labour MP for Bradford went one step further and like a tweet by Owen Jones which said this:

"Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of diversity"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naz_Shah

Unfortunately, the Labour party now have a dark side to them, where MP's will try to sweep under the carpet any abuse carried out by members of a certain faith.
Here we have Jess Phillips comparing the shocking sexual attacks on German women in Cologne and other German cities, as being comparable to a night out in Birmingham. Over a thousand women were sexually assaulted in one night in Germany.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/29/labo...
I wasn't aware of Owen Jones and that Tweet and Naz Shah MP retweeting it. That seems very odd and contradictory given Wikipedia says Shah's own mother shipped her off to Pakistan so she would be safe from her mother's abusive partner who Shah's mother went on to kill. You'd think someone who'd had the experience of being in an abusive household, being sent away to keep her safe and then her mother killing her abusive partner and doing time for it would have a better understanding.

It's almost like Shah thinks her experience and that of her mother trumps that of young girls who've been abused as if they are somehow lesser or people of less worth. It seems like a lack of compassion and prejudice.

andyA700

2,897 posts

39 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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carinaman said:
andyA700 said:
It is a really bad problem, which politicians, particularly in the Labour party (the party which I supported for decades) seem to ignore, lest they lose votes for going against a certain demographic.
Sarah Champion the Labour MP for Rotherham was hounded out of the shadow cabinet for shining light on this disgusting affair, even faced accusations of being racist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Champion

Naz Shah the Labour MP for Bradford went one step further and like a tweet by Owen Jones which said this:

"Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of diversity"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naz_Shah

Unfortunately, the Labour party now have a dark side to them, where MP's will try to sweep under the carpet any abuse carried out by members of a certain faith.
Here we have Jess Phillips comparing the shocking sexual attacks on German women in Cologne and other German cities, as being comparable to a night out in Birmingham. Over a thousand women were sexually assaulted in one night in Germany.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/29/labo...
I wasn't aware of Owen Jones and that Tweet and Naz Shah MP retweeting it. That seems very odd and contradictory given Wikipedia says Shah's own mother shipped her off to Pakistan so she would be safe from her mother's abusive partner who Shah's mother went on to kill. You'd think someone who'd had the experience of being in an abusive household, being sent away to keep her safe and then her mother killing her abusive partner and doing time for it would have a better understanding.

It's almost like Shah thinks her experience and that of her mother trumps that of young girls who've been abused as if they are somehow lesser or people of less worth. It seems like a lack of compassion and prejudice.
I can tell you with absolute certainty, that "caste" culture doesn't just exist in India, it happens in many countries in the World (including the modern UK). There are many Asians who look down at those in poverty, who regard white girls from a poor background as "easy meat". It certainly happened in the majority of child abuse grooming gangs, where the men often described the girls as "kafir"

https://www.opindia.com/2020/07/muslim-grooming-ga...

T6 vanman

3,079 posts

101 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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carinaman said:
I wasn't aware of Owen Jones and that Tweet and Naz Shah MP retweeting it. That seems very odd and contradictory given Wikipedia says Shah's own mother shipped her off to Pakistan ...................................
Wikipedia is maintained, moderated and edited by the political classes who wished this to be swept under the carpet, It's not by chance it's narrative on many subjects devisive on NP&E are to the woke medium .... Know your enemy

LimSlip

800 posts

56 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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carinaman said:
I wasn't aware of Owen Jones and that Tweet and Naz Shah MP retweeting it. That seems very odd and contradictory given Wikipedia says Shah's own mother shipped her off to Pakistan so she would be safe from her mother's abusive partner who Shah's mother went on to kill.
I believe the tweet was originally from an Owen Jones parody account, though it's no less ridiculous than the majority of the guff he regularly puts out. Irrespective, Shah clearly agreed with the sentiment enough to retweet it.

LimSlip

800 posts

56 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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T6 vanman said:
Wikipedia is maintained, moderated and edited by the political classes who wished this to be swept under the carpet, It's not by chance it's narrative on many subjects devisive on NP&E are to the woke medium .... Know your enemy
100% this. The editing transcripts on articles like this often show the level of bias that exists.