Coronavirus and schools

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djc206

12,480 posts

127 months

Tuesday 13th July 2021
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sim72 said:
Yep. Delta is clearly far worse at doing this than the previous ones. 22 confirmed cases in the last 8 days. We're just stumbling onwards until the end of term. I wouldn't be surprised if we got to Friday and said "that'll do, see you in September".
Might as well at this point, what a mess, an entirely foreseeable and preventable mess.

johnboy1975

8,438 posts

110 months

Tuesday 13th July 2021
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sim72 said:
MiniMan64 said:
Spoke to soon, we just sent Year 10 home for the rest of term because it's spreading through the year so quickly. Year 8 and 9 aren't far behind either.

In theory they are all supposed to be 'turning up' for remote learning on Teams but in practice they're not and there's not much we can do to chase either.
Yep. Delta is clearly far worse at doing this than the previous ones. 22 confirmed cases in the last 8 days. We're just stumbling onwards until the end of term. I wouldn't be surprised if we got to Friday and said "that'll do, see you in September".
Doesn't that just push the problem into September and the new term?

Or have 'Robust' procedures been put in place to make sure next term isn't the same stshow?

No bubble closures, and daily testing for you Sim I believe? AIUI thats not national policy (the daily testing)......or is it? We need some clear and concise 'guidance' from Gavin Williamson.......I'll wait......smile

sim72

4,946 posts

136 months

Tuesday 13th July 2021
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johnboy1975 said:
sim72 said:
MiniMan64 said:
Spoke to soon, we just sent Year 10 home for the rest of term because it's spreading through the year so quickly. Year 8 and 9 aren't far behind either.

In theory they are all supposed to be 'turning up' for remote learning on Teams but in practice they're not and there's not much we can do to chase either.
Yep. Delta is clearly far worse at doing this than the previous ones. 22 confirmed cases in the last 8 days. We're just stumbling onwards until the end of term. I wouldn't be surprised if we got to Friday and said "that'll do, see you in September".
Doesn't that just push the problem into September and the new term?

Or have 'Robust' procedures been put in place to make sure next term isn't the same stshow?

No bubble closures, and daily testing for you Sim I believe? AIUI thats not national policy (the daily testing)......or is it? We need some clear and concise 'guidance' from Gavin Williamson.......I'll wait......smile
Well, technically it doesn't, because there are no bubbles from September (at the moment).

Guidance from Gavin Williamson? We'd get more sense from Gavin and Stacey.

MiniMan64

17,015 posts

192 months

Tuesday 13th July 2021
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johnboy1975 said:
sim72 said:
MiniMan64 said:
Spoke to soon, we just sent Year 10 home for the rest of term because it's spreading through the year so quickly. Year 8 and 9 aren't far behind either.

In theory they are all supposed to be 'turning up' for remote learning on Teams but in practice they're not and there's not much we can do to chase either.
Yep. Delta is clearly far worse at doing this than the previous ones. 22 confirmed cases in the last 8 days. We're just stumbling onwards until the end of term. I wouldn't be surprised if we got to Friday and said "that'll do, see you in September".
Doesn't that just push the problem into September and the new term?

Or have 'Robust' procedures been put in place to make sure next term isn't the same stshow?

No bubble closures, and daily testing for you Sim I believe? AIUI thats not national policy (the daily testing)......or is it? We need some clear and concise 'guidance' from Gavin Williamson.......I'll wait......smile
It only pushes the problem to September if you assume that all the students isolating are actually isolating. Which they are certainly not. They’ll all meet outside of school anyway, especially with the weather turning and it’ll burn through the cohort that way inside. All of this is just pantomime.

The next ten days will be an absolute mess. If we make it that far.

djc206

12,480 posts

127 months

Tuesday 13th July 2021
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MiniMan64 said:
It only pushes the problem to September if you assume that all the students isolating are actually isolating. Which they are certainly not. They’ll all meet outside of school anyway, especially with the weather turning and it’ll burn through the cohort that way inside. All of this is just pantomime.

The next ten days will be an absolute mess. If we make it that far.
That’s actually beneficial for September though right? If they continue to mix and ignore the rules that shouldn’t bloody well apply to them anyway they’ll all get it and come September they’ll all have natural immunity, or at the very least enough of them will that it won’t spread like wildfire as it is at present.

Muncher

12,219 posts

251 months

Wednesday 14th July 2021
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The fix is it accept that it doesn’t matter whether one child in a school or 100 have Covid, it’s irrelevant.

sim72

4,946 posts

136 months

Wednesday 14th July 2021
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Muncher said:
The fix is it accept that it doesn’t matter whether one child in a school or 100 have Covid, it’s irrelevant.
Er, no it's not, as anyone with a basic level of intelligence would work out. But thanks for your input.

sim72

4,946 posts

136 months

Wednesday 14th July 2021
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Another year group gone. Tried doing close contacts and then got four more confirmed cases. So two left. Sigh.

vaud

50,809 posts

157 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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Lots of covid rules... many of which I have been supportive of... this one took the biscuit.

I got my Y3 daughters school report (printed) yesterday.

However we are under strict instructions not to write a parental feedback note on paper and send it back into school due to the risk of covid. This despite the Dept for Health being clear that packaging, post etc posing no meaningful/measurable risk of transmission.

Left arm, right arm, etc.

Ho hum, end of rant.

Muncher

12,219 posts

251 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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sim72 said:
Muncher said:
The fix is it accept that it doesn’t matter whether one child in a school or 100 have Covid, it’s irrelevant.
Er, no it's not, as anyone with a basic level of intelligence would work out. But thanks for your input.
So where do you see it ending?

Testing every child every day, forever, and sending half of them home despite the fact that the disease poses very little risk to children.

Or accepting that once everyone who wants a vaccine has one, getting back to normal?

My only concern regarding my child’s schooling regarding Covid is are they going to shut. If they told me half his class tested positive, we would be sending him the next day, no questions.

MiniMan64

17,015 posts

192 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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Muncher said:
sim72 said:
Muncher said:
The fix is it accept that it doesn’t matter whether one child in a school or 100 have Covid, it’s irrelevant.
Er, no it's not, as anyone with a basic level of intelligence would work out. But thanks for your input.
So where do you see it ending?

Testing every child every day, forever, and sending half of them home despite the fact that the disease poses very little risk to children.

Or accepting that once everyone who wants a vaccine has one, getting back to normal?

My only concern regarding my child’s schooling regarding Covid is are they going to shut. If they told me half his class tested positive, we would be sending him the next day, no questions.
Except you probably wouldn't as guidance says if numbers of positive tests gets that high then the whole year group should be learning from home to stop it spreading further. That's why our Year 10's are currently all at home. If we have any more positive tests in Year 8 or Year 9 before Monday they'll be in the same boat.

Muncher

12,219 posts

251 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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But my point is this is not going to go away, not this year, not next year, not in our lifetimes.

The response needs to take that into account.

turbobloke

104,376 posts

262 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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Muncher said:
But my point is this is not going to go away, not this year, not next year, not in our lifetimes.

The response needs to take that into account.
It certainly does, and 19th goes part way towards that, not enough for some.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

226 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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My sons year just been sent home because someone in a different year, but in his bubble, tested positive.

No symptoms, but tested positive.

My son is year 7, this kid is year 10, but they have divided the different buildings into bubbles.


Why would you send a whole bubble home if someone who you never mix with, whose class is the other side of your building tests positive?
Oh, and tests positive with no symptoms? Why are we even testing them if they don't have any symptoms?


We are living in clown world.


If the government truly wanted to know what is happening they would be doing antibody tests?




All the kids are now saying they are not having the #clotshot.

That tickled me.

otolith

56,618 posts

206 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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One of ours sent home today. Not expected to go back before end of the year (and in her case, end of primary school).

Same for a colleague a few days ago.

Same for friends up north.

Two staff members at my OH's surgery tested positive.

It's absolutely rampant as far as I can see.

Tankrizzo

7,316 posts

195 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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Yip both my twins sent home yesterday and entire year 3 closed (60 kids) for one positive case. Early summer hols basically.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

226 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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otolith said:
One of ours sent home today. Not expected to go back before end of the year (and in her case, end of primary school).

Same for a colleague a few days ago.

Same for friends up north.

Two staff members at my OH's surgery tested positive.

It's absolutely rampant as far as I can see.
What is rampant?

Testing and testing people with no symptoms?



We could start doing antibody tests on Monday and know exactly where we are at within 2-3 weeks.



The reality is, this virus is now weak as anything, so everyone getting it during summer, especially the younger lot who have not been jabbed is ideal.

Evanivitch

20,469 posts

124 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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gizlaroc said:
If the government truly wanted to know what is happening they would be doing antibody tests?
What do you think they would gain from that?

gizlaroc said:
All the kids are now saying they are not having the #clotshot.
No, they're not. It's the same anti-vax loons as before that have stumbled upon a new hashtag.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

226 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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Evanivitch said:
gizlaroc said:
If the government truly wanted to know what is happening they would be doing antibody tests?
What do you think they would gain from that?
What do you think an antibody test tells us?

survivalist

5,727 posts

192 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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gizlaroc said:
My sons year just been sent home because someone in a different year, but in his bubble, tested positive.

No symptoms, but tested positive.

My son is year 7, this kid is year 10, but they have divided the different buildings into bubbles.


Why would you send a whole bubble home if someone who you never mix with, whose class is the other side of your building tests positive?
Oh, and tests positive with no symptoms? Why are we even testing them if they don't have any symptoms?


We are living in clown world.


If the government truly wanted to know what is happening they would be doing antibody tests?




All the kids are now saying they are not having the #clotshot.

That tickled me.
Is it the parents or the schools who are testing these kids?