CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 5)
Discussion
https://youtu.be/vb8Rj5xkDPk
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I usually don’t bother watching links unless they are pertinent but this will in equal measures make you smile wryly but also make you saddened.
If you only watch one video this week I’d recommend this one.
I usually don’t bother watching links unless they are pertinent but this will in equal measures make you smile wryly but also make you saddened.
croyde said:
FFS there will never be a vaccine. There isn't one for the cold, for Aids and even the flu one is not that likely to help.
Can we stop poncing about and just get on with it.
Living is dangerous but should be fun as well.
This isn't living.
Hear Hear!Can we stop poncing about and just get on with it.
Living is dangerous but should be fun as well.
This isn't living.
I keep thinking of this scene more and more lately...
ruggedscotty said:
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/italy-coronavirus-...
Even italy saw the light.....
Oh and just to let you know, full lockdown is on its way, announcement expected in 3 weeks.
And it’s workingEven italy saw the light.....
Oh and just to let you know, full lockdown is on its way, announcement expected in 3 weeks.
croyde said:
FFS there will never be a vaccine. There isn't one for the cold, for Aids and even the flu one is not that likely to help.
Can we stop poncing about and just get on with it.
Living is dangerous but should be fun as well.
This isn't living.
^ This every time!Can we stop poncing about and just get on with it.
Living is dangerous but should be fun as well.
This isn't living.
I struggle to understand people who think everybody should be immortal! And to compound it the older you are the more immortal you should be.
SS2. said:
I'm not sure I follow - how could there have been any (let alone widespread) immunity to a novel coronavirus ?
It almost certainly wouldn't but her submitted then "Pulled" before peer review paper, claimed to have calculated that in mid march 68% of the UK population had immunity. ..Edited by SS2. on Thursday 15th October 21:29
Graveworm said:
SS2. said:
I'm not sure I follow - how could there have been any (let alone widespread) immunity to a novel coronavirus ?
It almost certainly wouldn't but her submitted then "Pulled" before peer review paper, claimed to have calculated that in mid march 68% of the UK population had immunity. ..Elysium said:
Graveworm said:
Brave Fart said:
Really?
I've formed the distinct impression that this government's only means of control is lockdown. It's all they ever suggest. Ditto Keir Starmer. And the likes of Andy Burnham. There's plenty of arguments about precisely how severe any lockdown should be, and to which postcodes it might apply, but if they're talking about anything else then I've missed it.
And every time I look at social media, I see lots of people who hugely underestimate the damage lockdown does. I suspect comments such as "shut everything down for six months, that'll eradicate the virus" come from people with public sector jobs, or large savings, or comfortable pensions. Those people have no clue about the economic disaster that a prolonged national lockdown would create.
Just so we are clear compared to a lot of the world we have never been locked down. None of the three tiers are lock down. I've formed the distinct impression that this government's only means of control is lockdown. It's all they ever suggest. Ditto Keir Starmer. And the likes of Andy Burnham. There's plenty of arguments about precisely how severe any lockdown should be, and to which postcodes it might apply, but if they're talking about anything else then I've missed it.
And every time I look at social media, I see lots of people who hugely underestimate the damage lockdown does. I suspect comments such as "shut everything down for six months, that'll eradicate the virus" come from people with public sector jobs, or large savings, or comfortable pensions. Those people have no clue about the economic disaster that a prolonged national lockdown would create.
Graveworm said:
SS2. said:
I'm not sure I follow - how could there have been any (let alone widespread) immunity to a novel coronavirus ?
It almost certainly wouldn't but her submitted then "Pulled" before peer review paper, claimed to have calculated that in mid march 68% of the UK population had immunity. ..Edited by SS2. on Thursday 15th October 21:29
croyde said:
FFS there will never be a vaccine. There isn't one for the cold, for Aids and even the flu one is not that likely to help.
Can we stop poncing about and just get on with it.
Living is dangerous but should be fun as well.
This isn't living.
Yup who the hell wants to live to a 100 cacking it behind the sofaCan we stop poncing about and just get on with it.
Living is dangerous but should be fun as well.
This isn't living.
Graveworm said:
Brave Fart said:
Really?
I've formed the distinct impression that this government's only means of control is lockdown. It's all they ever suggest. Ditto Keir Starmer. And the likes of Andy Burnham. There's plenty of arguments about precisely how severe any lockdown should be, and to which postcodes it might apply, but if they're talking about anything else then I've missed it.
And every time I look at social media, I see lots of people who hugely underestimate the damage lockdown does. I suspect comments such as "shut everything down for six months, that'll eradicate the virus" come from people with public sector jobs, or large savings, or comfortable pensions. Those people have no clue about the economic disaster that a prolonged national lockdown would create.
Just so we are clear compared to a lot of the world we have never been locked down. None of the three tiers are lock down. I've formed the distinct impression that this government's only means of control is lockdown. It's all they ever suggest. Ditto Keir Starmer. And the likes of Andy Burnham. There's plenty of arguments about precisely how severe any lockdown should be, and to which postcodes it might apply, but if they're talking about anything else then I've missed it.
And every time I look at social media, I see lots of people who hugely underestimate the damage lockdown does. I suspect comments such as "shut everything down for six months, that'll eradicate the virus" come from people with public sector jobs, or large savings, or comfortable pensions. Those people have no clue about the economic disaster that a prolonged national lockdown would create.
Bravo.
Graveworm said:
Elysium said:
Graveworm said:
Brave Fart said:
Really?
I've formed the distinct impression that this government's only means of control is lockdown. It's all they ever suggest. Ditto Keir Starmer. And the likes of Andy Burnham. There's plenty of arguments about precisely how severe any lockdown should be, and to which postcodes it might apply, but if they're talking about anything else then I've missed it.
And every time I look at social media, I see lots of people who hugely underestimate the damage lockdown does. I suspect comments such as "shut everything down for six months, that'll eradicate the virus" come from people with public sector jobs, or large savings, or comfortable pensions. Those people have no clue about the economic disaster that a prolonged national lockdown would create.
Just so we are clear compared to a lot of the world we have never been locked down. None of the three tiers are lock down. I've formed the distinct impression that this government's only means of control is lockdown. It's all they ever suggest. Ditto Keir Starmer. And the likes of Andy Burnham. There's plenty of arguments about precisely how severe any lockdown should be, and to which postcodes it might apply, but if they're talking about anything else then I've missed it.
And every time I look at social media, I see lots of people who hugely underestimate the damage lockdown does. I suspect comments such as "shut everything down for six months, that'll eradicate the virus" come from people with public sector jobs, or large savings, or comfortable pensions. Those people have no clue about the economic disaster that a prolonged national lockdown would create.
The present tiers do stop ‘when you can leave your house or for what purpose’
At the height of lockdown you certainly could not leave your house ‘anytime’ or go out when you liked to exercise etc, etc.
the trouble with the lockdowns and area by area tier ratings is that this is not a lockdown. The government are trying to keep control but this isnt happening because people are doing what people do, cant go for a drink in town A... so we go to town B
They go against the government and keep gyms open....
this is why they only way to lower the numbers is to go for a proper lockdown.
what are we doing differently to china ? they have managed to get the 'vid under control.
Brutal proceedures and no messing.... thats how. complete lockdown and control of the areas with covid infections
They go against the government and keep gyms open....
this is why they only way to lower the numbers is to go for a proper lockdown.
what are we doing differently to china ? they have managed to get the 'vid under control.
Brutal proceedures and no messing.... thats how. complete lockdown and control of the areas with covid infections
andyxxx said:
Graveworm said:
Elysium said:
Graveworm said:
Brave Fart said:
Really?
I've formed the distinct impression that this government's only means of control is lockdown. It's all they ever suggest. Ditto Keir Starmer. And the likes of Andy Burnham. There's plenty of arguments about precisely how severe any lockdown should be, and to which postcodes it might apply, but if they're talking about anything else then I've missed it.
And every time I look at social media, I see lots of people who hugely underestimate the damage lockdown does. I suspect comments such as "shut everything down for six months, that'll eradicate the virus" come from people with public sector jobs, or large savings, or comfortable pensions. Those people have no clue about the economic disaster that a prolonged national lockdown would create.
Just so we are clear compared to a lot of the world we have never been locked down. None of the three tiers are lock down. I've formed the distinct impression that this government's only means of control is lockdown. It's all they ever suggest. Ditto Keir Starmer. And the likes of Andy Burnham. There's plenty of arguments about precisely how severe any lockdown should be, and to which postcodes it might apply, but if they're talking about anything else then I've missed it.
And every time I look at social media, I see lots of people who hugely underestimate the damage lockdown does. I suspect comments such as "shut everything down for six months, that'll eradicate the virus" come from people with public sector jobs, or large savings, or comfortable pensions. Those people have no clue about the economic disaster that a prolonged national lockdown would create.
The present tiers do stop ‘when you can leave your house or for what purpose’
At the height of lockdown you certainly could not leave your house ‘anytime’ or go out when you liked to exercise etc, etc.
Similarly what was the restriction on when you could leave your house under the previous regulations.
ruggedscotty said:
They go against the government and keep gyms open....
When gyms & fitness centres are shown to be responsible for close to zero transmission of the virus, yet it's OK for folks to meet up and pig out at the chippy or Macdonalds ?Surely you can see how ridiculous that is ?
It's no wonder people are pushing back.
Graveworm said:
andyxxx said:
Graveworm said:
Elysium said:
Graveworm said:
Brave Fart said:
Really?
I've formed the distinct impression that this government's only means of control is lockdown. It's all they ever suggest. Ditto Keir Starmer. And the likes of Andy Burnham. There's plenty of arguments about precisely how severe any lockdown should be, and to which postcodes it might apply, but if they're talking about anything else then I've missed it.
And every time I look at social media, I see lots of people who hugely underestimate the damage lockdown does. I suspect comments such as "shut everything down for six months, that'll eradicate the virus" come from people with public sector jobs, or large savings, or comfortable pensions. Those people have no clue about the economic disaster that a prolonged national lockdown would create.
Just so we are clear compared to a lot of the world we have never been locked down. None of the three tiers are lock down. I've formed the distinct impression that this government's only means of control is lockdown. It's all they ever suggest. Ditto Keir Starmer. And the likes of Andy Burnham. There's plenty of arguments about precisely how severe any lockdown should be, and to which postcodes it might apply, but if they're talking about anything else then I've missed it.
And every time I look at social media, I see lots of people who hugely underestimate the damage lockdown does. I suspect comments such as "shut everything down for six months, that'll eradicate the virus" come from people with public sector jobs, or large savings, or comfortable pensions. Those people have no clue about the economic disaster that a prolonged national lockdown would create.
The present tiers do stop ‘when you can leave your house or for what purpose’
At the height of lockdown you certainly could not leave your house ‘anytime’ or go out when you liked to exercise etc, etc.
Similarly what was the restriction on when you could leave your house under the previous regulations.
Graveworm said:
I missed that what are the restrictions or when you can leave your house or for what purpose?
Similarly what was the restriction on when you could leave your house under the previous regulations.
you are quite a piece of work. Why ask such stupid questions? There were lots of restrictions and in summary, it was for work (key workers) one hour of exercise and a couple of other things. I will leave at that to be polite.Similarly what was the restriction on when you could leave your house under the previous regulations.
Not-The-Messiah said:
The bulls
t answer they give is "It will give us time to get on top of the virus and sort out track and trace" That thing we have chucked billions at and had weeks to sort out but somehow a couple more weeks will magically sort it all out.
The reporters need to ask what is the likelihood of a system working when it relies on people having symptoms and people getting tested when needed (lots of people don't in both cases) meaning it doomed from the start.
There are far to many people in dream world about track and trace and need to snap out of it.
Last night Peston asked one of the Irish MP's "what will happen after your lockdown if the virus just carries on". She didn't answer so he just asked another question! Ffs don't let these people off.t answer they give is "It will give us time to get on top of the virus and sort out track and trace" That thing we have chucked billions at and had weeks to sort out but somehow a couple more weeks will magically sort it all out. The reporters need to ask what is the likelihood of a system working when it relies on people having symptoms and people getting tested when needed (lots of people don't in both cases) meaning it doomed from the start.
There are far to many people in dream world about track and trace and need to snap out of it.
TX.
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