Coronavirus and schools

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Evanivitch

20,484 posts

124 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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gizlaroc said:
Evanivitch said:
gizlaroc said:
If the government truly wanted to know what is happening they would be doing antibody tests?
What do you think they would gain from that?
What do you think an antibody test tells us?
You tell me, you made this statement.

gizlaroc said:
We could start doing antibody tests on Monday and know exactly where we are at within 2-3 weeks.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

226 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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survivalist said:
Is it the parents or the schools who are testing these kids?
Yeah.

Parents. Loads of them are, and such bedwetters too.




Edited by gizlaroc on Thursday 15th July 23:19

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

226 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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Evanivitch said:
gizlaroc said:
Evanivitch said:
gizlaroc said:
If the government truly wanted to know what is happening they would be doing antibody tests?
What do you think they would gain from that?
What do you think an antibody test tells us?
You tell me, you made this statement.

gizlaroc said:
We could start doing antibody tests on Monday and know exactly where we are at within 2-3 weeks.
Seriously?


It would be far better to know who has antibodies, so we know how many people are still at risk.

If we could find out tomorrow exactly how many people had no antibodies we would know where we are at with this thing.


The tests really do tell us very little. So many do a LFT that gives a positive and then do another and another that are all negative.

PCR tests at 40-45 cycles? What does that tell us?


The only thing we can really test is for antibodies, it is a good test that gives us some useful results.

sim72

4,946 posts

136 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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gizlaroc said:
survivalist said:
Is it the parents or the schools who are testing these kids?
Yeah.

Loads of them are, such bedwetters too.
No idea what that means, but schools are not testing kids.

They will be in September though (until the DfE changes its mind again).

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

226 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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sim72 said:
No idea what that means, but schools are not testing kids.

They will be in September though (until the DfE changes its mind again).
Sorry, I meant....

Yeah.

Parents. Loads of them are testing.

And such bedwetters too when they are going on about kids not safe at school on facebook groups etc.

Almost like they want their little precious out of school to keep them safe from this deadly virus that doesn't even really affect them.

sim72

4,946 posts

136 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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gizlaroc said:
Sorry, I meant....

Yeah.

Parents. Loads of them are testing.

And such bedwetters too when they are going on about kids not safe at school on facebook groups etc.

Almost like they want their little precious out of school to keep them safe from this deadly virus that doesn't even really affect them.
There's been a noticeable reduction in attendance this week (not just in our school) which I strongly suspect is parents *not* wanting little Johnny to have to self-isolate because they're going on holiday next week! Can't condone it, but can understand it.

otolith

56,631 posts

206 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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gizlaroc said:
What is rampant?
Infection.

Sheepshanks

33,090 posts

121 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Adult daughter, husband and their 9yr old have gone to a cottage in Wales today. Supposed to be sharing with another family with same age child but over the weekend the other family's child has been told by school to isolate based on contact on Friday.

Don't know what others would do, but our daughter thinks they're being ridiculous not going.


RammyMP

6,817 posts

155 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Sheepshanks said:
Adult daughter, husband and their 9yr old have gone to a cottage in Wales today. Supposed to be sharing with another family with same age child but over the weekend the other family's child has been told by school to isolate based on contact on Friday.

Don't know what others would do, but our daughter thinks they're being ridiculous not going.
I was close to being in a similar situation, worked out ok in the end but I would have gone anyway.

The T&T app is on my work phone which stayed at home.

Speaking of T&T, the last few days of our break were spent in Edinburgh, the Scottish track and trace is easy to avoid, scan the QR code then fill out your details? Scan the QR code, look like you’re completing the fields on the web site and actually give no details at all!

robscot

2,272 posts

192 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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gizlaroc said:
My sons year just been sent home because someone in a different year, but in his bubble, tested positive.

No symptoms, but tested positive.

My son is year 7, this kid is year 10, but they have divided the different buildings into bubbles.


Why would you send a whole bubble home if someone who you never mix with, whose class is the other side of your building tests positive?
Oh, and tests positive with no symptoms? Why are we even testing them if they don't have any symptoms?


We are living in clown world.


If the government truly wanted to know what is happening they would be doing antibody tests?




All the kids are now saying they are not having the #clotshot.

That tickled me.
Kids saying hashtag clotshot?!

The radicalised facebook educated parents having that level of impression on kids is depressing.

What do you want to be when you grow up? “ Not an expert or a scientist, mum!”

sim72

4,946 posts

136 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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robscot said:
Kids saying hashtag clotshot?!

The radicalised facebook educated parents having that level of impression on kids is depressing.

What do you want to be when you grow up? “ Not an expert or a scientist, mum!”
The number of people using that hashtag

Kids: 5%
D*ckheads, Covid deniers and bots: 95%

julianm

1,550 posts

203 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Army of ex-teachers to come out of retirement to help keep schools open during Covid omicron wave

Retirees to go back to the classroom in a bid to keep lessons going in January, with staff likely to be off sick as cases rise
By Camilla Turner, Education Editor 16 December 2021 • 7:00pm - Daily Telegraph -

An army of retired teachers will be recruited by the Government in an attempt to keep schools open in January, the Education Secretary has announced.

Nadhim Zahawi will launch a major campaign in the coming days aimed at encouraging former school staff to sign up as supply teachers.

It comes amid mounting concern in Whitehall that the number of teachers forced into isolation in January due to omicron could lead to entire year groups being sent home, or even school closures.

In a letter to headteachers, Mr Zahawi said he intends to “boost capacity” of supply teachers, so that schools can plug gaps in timetables with external staff to keep children in the classroom.


Obviously all the elderly & vulnerable retirees will be keen to return to the most infection rich environment available....

Lucas CAV

3,025 posts

221 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Zero chance of that happening.
And the DBS system is st slow too.

vaud

50,815 posts

157 months

Friday 17th December 2021
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Lucas CAV said:
Zero chance of that happening.
And the DBS system is st slow too.
My wife had her first DBS check last month and it took 5 days.

Electro1980

8,439 posts

141 months

Friday 17th December 2021
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I submitted an enhanced DBS check covering early year’s education about 3 months ago. It took about two weeks. The system seems to be quite quick now as long as there is nothing that comes up.

There will probably also be a fair chunk of teachers who still have update subscriptions in place because they are still involved in schools or education in some way.

Lucas CAV

3,025 posts

221 months

Friday 17th December 2021
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vaud said:
Lucas CAV said:
Zero chance of that happening.
And the DBS system is st slow too.
My wife had her first DBS check last month and it took 5 days.
The variability of the system causes problems.

But no one is going to volunteer to return anyway.

ch37

10,642 posts

223 months

Friday 17th December 2021
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Remarkably we've had the first experience of COVID at my son's primary school and compared to the stuff that was going on during the previous waves, I'm actually quite impressed with how things are allowed to crack on.

Multiple confirmed positive cases in his class, we get a letter emailed to us telling us to get him tested. That was Tuesday afternoon, he had a PCR test at 8am on Wednesday, no result yet but he has (and all the other kids who haven't had a result yet) been allowed to continue going to school as normal.

At this rate we won't have a result before he's finished for the year, but for our own peace of mind we've done an LFT each day which has been fine. Other parents have done LFTs whilst waiting for results and are getting positives, so it's definitely working its way around.

Antony Moxey

8,189 posts

221 months

Friday 17th December 2021
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ch37 said:
Remarkably we've had the first experience of COVID at my son's primary school and compared to the stuff that was going on during the previous waves, I'm actually quite impressed with how things are allowed to crack on.

Multiple confirmed positive cases in his class, we get a letter emailed to us telling us to get him tested. That was Tuesday afternoon, he had a PCR test at 8am on Wednesday, no result yet but he has (and all the other kids who haven't had a result yet) been allowed to continue going to school as normal.

At this rate we won't have a result before he's finished for the year, but for our own peace of mind we've done an LFT each day which has been fine. Other parents have done LFTs whilst waiting for results and are getting positives, so it's definitely working its way around.
I thought you had to isolate until a PCR result was confirmed? As for LFTs, since I could start taking them again (the 90 day period after contracting Covid expired about three weeks ago) I haven’t bothered. They seem so unreliable I don’t see the point unless I have to. When me and my wife had positive PCRs back in August, her LFT was positive three hours before we took a PCR and mine was negative, and I’ve heard so many similar stories first hand I really don’t see the point in them for me any more.

ch37

10,642 posts

223 months

Friday 17th December 2021
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Antony Moxey said:
I thought you had to isolate until a PCR result was confirmed?
We did think that seemed a little odd, but we re-read their guidance about 7 times and we only need to pull him out if a positive PCR comes back. My guess is, numerous kids have been in for the latter of this week whilst unknowingly positive. If they are symptom free attendance is mandatory, apparently.

That system has more chance of working when results come back quickly, but we're currently at 50hrs+ with no news yet.


Edited by ch37 on Friday 17th December 10:01

vaud

50,815 posts

157 months

Friday 17th December 2021
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ch37 said:
We did think that seemed a little odd, but we re-read their guidance about 7 times and we only need to pull him out if a positive PCR comes back. My guess is, numerous kids have been in for the latter of this week whilst unknowingly positive. If they are symptom free attendance is mandatory, apparently.

That system has more chance of working when results come back quickly, but we're currently at 50hrs+ with no news yet.


Edited by ch37 on Friday 17th December 10:01
Our school ask that they are kept away until PCR result comes back.