Snap General Election?
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I was thinking last night about policies not in any of the manifestos that I would really like to have seen.
1. Simplification of taxes. Income tax: no one should pay tax only to receive benefits back from the state. Raise the minimum threshold to a point where this balances out. You either pay tax or get benefits not both. Simplification of other taxes such as VED. Scrap VED replaced with an increase on fuel duty, a true pay per use system that takes into account the economy of the vehicle. Reduce civil servants in line with simplification of taxes.
2. No faith schools or schools aligned to any religion. Only religious studies to teach what each religion stands for, all given equal time. No services or prayers during school time.
Anyone got any others they would like to see on the table?
1. Simplification of taxes. Income tax: no one should pay tax only to receive benefits back from the state. Raise the minimum threshold to a point where this balances out. You either pay tax or get benefits not both. Simplification of other taxes such as VED. Scrap VED replaced with an increase on fuel duty, a true pay per use system that takes into account the economy of the vehicle. Reduce civil servants in line with simplification of taxes.
2. No faith schools or schools aligned to any religion. Only religious studies to teach what each religion stands for, all given equal time. No services or prayers during school time.
Anyone got any others they would like to see on the table?
57 Chevy said:
No faith schools or schools aligned to any religion. Only religious studies to teach what each religion stands for, all given equal time. No services or prayers during school time.
I'm inclined to agree with this. The challenge would be how many religions you cover, and include humanist, atheism and agnosticism as well.It might help with greater mutual understanding.
Eddie Strohacker said:
You literally did a Jo Moore 'It's a good day to bury bad news' & your reaction speaks volumes.
Bloody hell,
So very wrong!Bloody hell,
His comment was entriely correct and not crass at all, simply an observation that last nights astrocity will no doubt become another factor in the upcoming election.
57 Chevy said:
Hayek said:
Why not CoE schools?
Why? It's all the same principle. Christianity is used to divide people in Scotland and Ireland on a daily basis, it's time we moved on. Also many schools were run by the CoE were they not? I forget the details but at some point control was passed to government with a commitment to daily worship.
Hayek said:
Because this is historically a Christian country, I think it generally worked quite well.
Also many schools were run by the CoE were they not? I forget the details but at some point control was passed to government with a commitment to daily worship.
It's time to move forward not focus on the past. I've got no problem with people practicing religion but it is time it's association with schools was over. Also many schools were run by the CoE were they not? I forget the details but at some point control was passed to government with a commitment to daily worship.
Some thoughts here that what we're seeing isn't particularly a wobble or a surge but just continuing a trend.
My own view is that not convinced of the argument. By virtue of applying a smoothing technique then immediately you sort of convert whatever the data points are into a trend. Therefore you are providing the basis of your own hypothesis rather than interpretation of an observation.
Secondly despite that criticism it emphasises the irrelevance of LD/Green etc in this battle, and becoming less significant throughout.
UKIP could be thought to be included in that irrelevant dismissal, and going forward beyond this election I think that's possibly true. However this time their influence will be noticed, not for the votes they gain, but those they don't and where those 2015 votes go, especially in the marginal seats where they aren't standing. This can potentially be a pain to both Cons and Lab, mostly Lab though.
My own view is that not convinced of the argument. By virtue of applying a smoothing technique then immediately you sort of convert whatever the data points are into a trend. Therefore you are providing the basis of your own hypothesis rather than interpretation of an observation.
Secondly despite that criticism it emphasises the irrelevance of LD/Green etc in this battle, and becoming less significant throughout.
UKIP could be thought to be included in that irrelevant dismissal, and going forward beyond this election I think that's possibly true. However this time their influence will be noticed, not for the votes they gain, but those they don't and where those 2015 votes go, especially in the marginal seats where they aren't standing. This can potentially be a pain to both Cons and Lab, mostly Lab though.
I have been saying this for years. Religion has no place in modern life. They keep talking about integration but how will that happen while one group of children are at a school being brain washed and others are at a school thinking looking at those f
king idiots.
religious studies should be religious awareness, making kids aware there are people out there that believe this bks and they are a potential risk.
king idiots. religious studies should be religious awareness, making kids aware there are people out there that believe this b
ks and they are a potential risk.57 Chevy said:
Hayek said:
Because this is historically a Christian country, I think it generally worked quite well.
Also many schools were run by the CoE were they not? I forget the details but at some point control was passed to government with a commitment to daily worship.
It's time to move forward not focus on the past. I've got no problem with people practicing religion but it is time it's association with schools was over. Also many schools were run by the CoE were they not? I forget the details but at some point control was passed to government with a commitment to daily worship.
mickytruelove said:
I have been saying this for years. Religion has no place in modern life. They keep talking about integration but how will that happen while one group of children are at a school being brain washed and others are at a school thinking looking at those fking idiots.
religious studies should be religious awareness, making kids aware there are people out there that believe this bks and they are a potential risk.
Is there not a certain irony in you being angry at brainwashing then only wanting people to be taught what you believe and everyone who doesn't is the enemy?king idiots. religious studies should be religious awareness, making kids aware there are people out there that believe this b
ks and they are a potential risk.Lance Catamaran said:
mickytruelove said:
I have been saying this for years. Religion has no place in modern life. They keep talking about integration but how will that happen while one group of children are at a school being brain washed and others are at a school thinking looking at those fking idiots.
religious studies should be religious awareness, making kids aware there are people out there that believe this bks and they are a potential risk.
Is there not a certain irony in you being angry at brainwashing then only wanting people to be taught what you believe and everyone who doesn't is the enemy?king idiots. religious studies should be religious awareness, making kids aware there are people out there that believe this b
ks and they are a potential risk.Hayek said:
57 Chevy said:
Hayek said:
Because this is historically a Christian country, I think it generally worked quite well.
Also many schools were run by the CoE were they not? I forget the details but at some point control was passed to government with a commitment to daily worship.
It's time to move forward not focus on the past. I've got no problem with people practicing religion but it is time it's association with schools was over. Also many schools were run by the CoE were they not? I forget the details but at some point control was passed to government with a commitment to daily worship.
I suspect it will just vanish one summer holidays but somehow messing with the big man is a step too far at the moment. 57 Chevy said:
I was thinking last night about policies not in any of the manifestos that I would really like to have seen.
1. Simplification of taxes. Income tax: no one should pay tax only to receive benefits back from the state. Raise the minimum threshold to a point where this balances out. You either pay tax or get benefits not both. Simplification of other taxes such as VED. Scrap VED replaced with an increase on fuel duty, a true pay per use system that takes into account the economy of the vehicle. Reduce civil servants in line with simplification of taxes.
2. No faith schools or schools aligned to any religion. Only religious studies to teach what each religion stands for, all given equal time. No services or prayers during school time.
Anyone got any others they would like to see on the table?
Good Post - lets try to lift the level a little chaps !1. Simplification of taxes. Income tax: no one should pay tax only to receive benefits back from the state. Raise the minimum threshold to a point where this balances out. You either pay tax or get benefits not both. Simplification of other taxes such as VED. Scrap VED replaced with an increase on fuel duty, a true pay per use system that takes into account the economy of the vehicle. Reduce civil servants in line with simplification of taxes.
2. No faith schools or schools aligned to any religion. Only religious studies to teach what each religion stands for, all given equal time. No services or prayers during school time.
Anyone got any others they would like to see on the table?
My biggest single issue that I previously couldn't vote for was ongoing membership of the EU - well thats out the way now...
I guess I 'd like to see a party take a positive position on flat rate taxation - for income tax - though I won't hold my breath.
Additionally I'd like a party that actively campaigns to dismantle the NHS and completely reform the way health car is paid for (and with a change to Social Security)
Split NI into a new model - two thirds for health care which is MANDATORY for all employees. Then with a private overlay whereby you purchase additional cover as you see fit.
Then the remaining one third NI pays for Unemployment benefit, again with a private option to insure yourself further against having a higher salary (or cost base)
57 Chevy said:
I was thinking last night about policies not in any of the manifestos that I would really like to have seen.
1. Simplification of taxes. Income tax: no one should pay tax only to receive benefits back from the state. Raise the minimum threshold to a point where this balances out. You either pay tax or get benefits not both. Simplification of other taxes such as VED. Scrap VED replaced with an increase on fuel duty, a true pay per use system that takes into account the economy of the vehicle. Reduce civil servants in line with simplification of taxes.
2. No faith schools or schools aligned to any religion. Only religious studies to teach what each religion stands for, all given equal time. No services or prayers during school time.
Anyone got any others they would like to see on the table?
3. Make a clear distinction between income tax and national insurance. NI is paid by everyone on all earnings and is ring-fenced for the NHS and Social Care. Income tax has a lower earnings threshold to protect the lowest earners. 1. Simplification of taxes. Income tax: no one should pay tax only to receive benefits back from the state. Raise the minimum threshold to a point where this balances out. You either pay tax or get benefits not both. Simplification of other taxes such as VED. Scrap VED replaced with an increase on fuel duty, a true pay per use system that takes into account the economy of the vehicle. Reduce civil servants in line with simplification of taxes.
2. No faith schools or schools aligned to any religion. Only religious studies to teach what each religion stands for, all given equal time. No services or prayers during school time.
Anyone got any others they would like to see on the table?
4. Massive reduction on Foreign Aid and ensure aid is only used for those that need it (eg those below the globally recognised "extreme poverty" line or those in areas of natural disaster). Revenue saved to be used for public services.
5. A statement that "controlled immigration" doesn't mean "no immigration" or "no doctors and nurses for the NHS". It just means we decide the numbers based on need.
6. Every driver is required to undertake x hours of driver tuition every 5 years. This isn't another driving test, but you are required to pass another test if the examiner/instructor deems your driving to be "far below the standard expected". Revenue generated to be used for road maintenance and policing.
Eddie Strohacker said:
I must be old fashioned then in that I'd consider it good form to let the police at least sweep up the dead children before using their deaths to stick the knife into a politician for your own ideological purposes.
It's not JAYB who will skewer Corbyn with this, the press and particularly the tabloids controlled by Murdoch will pour vitriol upon him because of his absurd refusal to just condemn the IRA; his ideological purity is more important to him than getting elected, influencing the news cycle or conveying the manifesto.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff