Jeremy Corbyn Vol. 2
Discussion
Burwood said:
Agreed but the whole House being wrapped up in constant challenges. What a bunch of assholes. And yet again, Labours own MPs split over policy. Who thinks labours party will crack again, well before Tory does
Wait until the Momentum (the McDonnell - plan C) "deselections" begin and people start getting sent to the Labour gulagsgooner1 said:
i don't care. Not one bit. Needs must. labour would take first borns if it meant getting power. Hypocrites, much. I doubt Corby's health will hold up anyway. McDonnell is already red faced.Raygun said:
gooner1 said:
Tories were quick enough to give up the means testing policy, when it
became part it the DUP bung/deal, don't you agree.
I knew people who were getting this payment who were minted, imho a good place to start saving a bit of money by not dishing it out to people who don't need it.
Tories say white, Corbyn and his cronies say black irrespective if he agrees with it or not.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/tory-dup-deal-ag...
Burwood said:
sooner or any other Labour fans. I'm intrigued how you can possibly support a man that says this. Looking for a simple answer.
I don't think, and I may be wrong, that anyone has actually offered an actual defence of Corbyn or McDonnell (no need to mention Abbot in this list is there? 
).It's all been about saying how bad the Tories are. Problem with that is, I expect most people agree to some extent; the Tories and May have been less than impressive these last few weeks. With Corbyn so far out in left field he is virtually indefensible.
His list of violent threats against democracy and his political opponents clearly mark him out for what he is.
The dog has had it's day. Time for Labour remove the extremists and get back to decent moderate democratic socialism.
Though I expect we'll see a few more Labour moderates axed before that actually happens.
Stickyfinger said:
Burwood said:
Agreed but the whole House being wrapped up in constant challenges. What a bunch of assholes. And yet again, Labours own MPs split over policy. Who thinks labours party will crack again, well before Tory does
Wait until the Momentum (the McDonnell - plan C) "deselections" begin and people start getting sent to the Labour gulagshttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/29/j...
Burwood said:
gooner1- the issue with the DUP is quite simple. Anything. Any amount of money and any change in policy is worth not having the utter s
tbird Corbyn in charge of anything short of his jam jars. It's going to be a long summer 
Then why not admit that, not you in particular, instead of coming up with bullstbird Corbyn in charge of anything short of his jam jars. It's going to be a long summer texcuses that nobody believes.
Apart from the fact that a lot of tory voters are ashamed of the deal, and that includes your own MP's..
gooner1 said:
Just a reminder of the type of people, that last nights vote impacted.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/28/po...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/fir...
I have huge respect for firefighters and the emergency services, and the Armed Forces (I served for 31 years).https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/28/po...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/fir...
An image of firefighters may not be a good illustration of the point you are trying to make. I wonder how many of the decent people in that picture (or any similar image of firefighters anywhere in the UK) have second jobs, not necessarily just to make ends meet, but because of the shift pattern they work which gives them capacity for second jobs/moonlighting/casual work, call it what you like.
I would happily give up my current job to work 4on/4off, or 48hrs on/96hrs off, or any permutation of shifts that brigades work around the country. I also know of Prison Officers and other public sector uniformed shift workers (not NHS to be fair) who similarly have the time off to take on additional work. Dare I say, some of it will be cash in hand.
Having said that, I do think it is time to end the public sector pay restraint and let the Pay Review Bodies recommend an appropriate rise. I think that, quite rightly, May/Hammond, will not respond immediately to calls for them to do so, but will use the Budget to announce changes.
gooner1 said:
Burwood said:
sooner or any other Labour fans. I'm intrigued how you can possibly support a man that says this. Looking for a simple answer.
Now, like Corbyn's alleged comments to M.Eavis re being PM in 6 months, show me a link, with audio, of all the above.pingu393 said:
gooner1 said:
Burwood said:
sooner or any other Labour fans. I'm intrigued how you can possibly support a man that says this. Looking for a simple answer.
Now, like Corbyn's alleged comments to M.Eavis re being PM in 6 months, show me a link, with audio, of all the above.gooner1 said:
Burwood said:
sooner or any other Labour fans. I'm intrigued how you can possibly support a man that says this. Looking for a simple answer.
Now, like Corbyn's alleged comments to M.Eavis re being PM in 6 months, show me a link, with audio, of all the above.Do you think every politician has had every utterance recorded since the beginning of time or do you think we should only judge politicians on the things that do get recorded?
If you google the quotes you will find news articles from the time with direct quotations. e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/may/30/n...
gooner1 said:
Burwood said:
sooner or any other Labour fans. I'm intrigued how you can possibly support a man that says this. Looking for a simple answer.
Now, like Corbyn's alleged comments to M.Eavis re being PM in 6 months, show me a link, with audio, of all the above.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/19/john-mc...
http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/local-news/mp-...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/jun/07/j...
No "apology" or defence for that one as he's still spouting it with reference to the "day of rage" he is calling for
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/19/j...
skahigh said:
gooner1 said:
Burwood said:
sooner or any other Labour fans. I'm intrigued how you can possibly support a man that says this. Looking for a simple answer.
Now, like Corbyn's alleged comments to M.Eavis re being PM in 6 months, show me a link, with audio, of all the above.Do you think every politician has had every utterance recorded since the beginning of time or do you think we should only judge politicians on the things that do get recorded?
If you google the quotes you will find news articles from the time with direct quotations. e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/may/30/n...
Of course the press is a completely different thing, totally unbiased in any way what so ever, right?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40447...
Edited by gooner1 on Thursday 29th June 20:35
London424 said:
Already started. He's sacked the frontbenchers that voted against his wishes. Fun stuff!
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/29/j...
The comments are great. On one hand you've got the people who bought in to St Jezza's BS thinking he was going to deliver them to the promised land moaning he's screwing over the youth, and on the other you have the hard left who basically say "good!" for getting rid of the 'Blairites'https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/29/j...
Goaty Bill 2 said:
It's all been about saying how bad the Tories are. Problem with that is, I expect most people agree to some extent; the Tories and May have been less than impressive these last few weeks. With Corbyn so far out in left field he is virtually indefensible.
His list of violent threats against democracy and his political opponents clearly mark him out for what he is.
But, apparently not. Many people I'd hitherto considered quite rational seem to regard him as "quite a decent and honest chap". His list of violent threats against democracy and his political opponents clearly mark him out for what he is.
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