Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! VOL 2

Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! VOL 2

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jules_s

4,334 posts

235 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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Halb said:
CGI, which is nicely juxtaposed, since on the opposite side we have a claymation Wallace.
It's the chinplant, he wants an NHS freebee one next time eek

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

79 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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Please inform Burnham that agency nurses are trained nurses, trained in the UK (or Uk qualified)

Ganglandboss

8,315 posts

205 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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Body-bags Burnham seems to have forgotten his own track record...

Yipper

5,964 posts

92 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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It was the same old virtue-signaling nonsense from QT audience and panellists.

Labour flooded the country with extra people from overseas and put extra pressure on NHS hospitals. Labour then reduced GP hours and put extra pressure on NHS A&E hospitals as sick people went there, instead. You can pretty much trace most major NHS problems in modern times back to Labour.

As for nurses, their endless victimhood whining is tiresome. Nurses have actually had above-inflation payrises in the past decade through a two-pronged approach of tax reductions + pay increases. They're always moaning about lack of investment, but NHS spending per head has risen significantly in the past decade, again way above inflation. And they're always moaning about how hard work it is to be a nurse, but most of the time you can see with your own eyes they're just huddled around in groups chatting about Corrie or surfing the Web.

gooner1

10,223 posts

181 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Yipper said:
It was the same old virtue-signaling nonsense from QT audience and panellists.

Labour flooded the country with extra people from overseas and put extra pressure on NHS hospitals. Labour then reduced GP hours and put extra pressure on NHS A&E hospitals as sick people went there, instead. You can pretty much trace most major NHS problems in modern times back to Labour.

As for nurses, their endless victimhood whining is tiresome. Nurses have actually had above-inflation payrises in the past decade through a two-pronged approach of tax reductions + pay increases. They're always moaning about lack of investment, but NHS spending per head has risen significantly in the past decade, again way above inflation. And they're always moaning about how hard work it is to be a nurse, but most of the time you can see with your own eyes they're just huddled around in groups chatting about Corrie or surfing the Web.
Or resigning in droves, do you imagine they do that in order to watch more Corrie?
Your description of Nurses doesn't match my experience of them, but hey, perhaps your personal knowledge of them hasn't been as rewarding as mine.

Halb

53,012 posts

185 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Well they did let him escape the looney bin.

pingu393

7,982 posts

207 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Yipper said:
It was the same old virtue-signaling nonsense from QT audience and panellists.

Labour flooded the country with extra people from overseas and put extra pressure on NHS hospitals. Labour then reduced GP hours and put extra pressure on NHS A&E hospitals as sick people went there, instead. You can pretty much trace most major NHS problems in modern times back to Labour.

As for nurses, their endless victimhood whining is tiresome. Nurses have actually had above-inflation payrises in the past decade through a two-pronged approach of tax reductions + pay increases. They're always moaning about lack of investment, but NHS spending per head has risen significantly in the past decade, again way above inflation. And they're always moaning about how hard work it is to be a nurse, but most of the time you can see with your own eyes they're just huddled around in groups chatting about Corrie or surfing the Web.
My experience of them is that they are great in an emergency, but they just can't be arsed with the routine stuff.

I was in hospital for six days and there was a dead fly on the windowsill for all that time. I presented it in a paper cup when I left and they didn't bat an eye when I told them it had been there since day one.

They need a Staff Nurse like in Carry on Nurse, not someone who wants to be their best mate.

Re wages. It's the bottom right of your payslip that matters, not the top left. I'll bet that their bottom right has gone up by more than inflation since 2010.

irocfan

40,776 posts

192 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Ganglandboss said:
So now the government is to blame for a nurse being fat, because hospital canteens aren't open 24 hours? rofl
I thought that the evil, Tory bds didn't pay people enough to eat let alone get fat?

sparkythecat

7,916 posts

257 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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pingu393 said:
I was in hospital for six days and there was a dead fly on the windowsill for all that time. I presented it in a paper cup when I left and they didn't bat an eye when I told them it had been there since day one.
Did the fly's notes say DNR ?

pavarotti1980

5,023 posts

86 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Yipper said:
It was the same old virtue-signaling nonsense from QT audience and panellists.

Labour flooded the country with extra people from overseas and put extra pressure on NHS hospitals. Labour then reduced GP hours and put extra pressure on NHS A&E hospitals as sick people went there, instead. You can pretty much trace most major NHS problems in modern times back to Labour.

As for nurses, their endless victimhood whining is tiresome. Nurses have actually had above-inflation payrises in the past decade through a two-pronged approach of tax reductions + pay increases. They're always moaning about lack of investment, but NHS spending per head has risen significantly in the past decade, again way above inflation. And they're always moaning about how hard work it is to be a nurse, but most of the time you can see with your own eyes they're just huddled around in groups chatting about Corrie or surfing the Web.
Which above inflation pay rises would that be then? Obviously its not just nurses but across the board in the NHS

Cobnapint

8,647 posts

153 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Burnham is an odious slopping shouldered little tt
Fully agree. It was a PFI hospital or no hospital my arse. They just wanted to make themselves look good by building loads of schools, hospitals and prisons by hiding the debt.

One of, in fact no - the main reason local health authorities are struggling to provide services is because of the MASSIVE ongoing costs of Labour's uncontrolled PFI fest.


Cobnapint

8,647 posts

153 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Not-The-Messiah said:
The Bayeux Tapestry a piece that celebrates the violent and forceful invasion resulting in the deaths of thousands and persecution of hundreds of thousands they can keep the piece of st.

I don't doubt its historical significance but its not exactly something to be celebrated.
Not only that, but after seeing it in Bayeux, it's a bit of an anticlimax. Why the media are getting so excited about a bit of old carpet hung on the wall in a glass cabinet I'll never know.

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

79 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Cobnapint said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
The Bayeux Tapestry a piece that celebrates the violent and forceful invasion resulting in the deaths of thousands and persecution of hundreds of thousands they can keep the piece of st.

I don't doubt its historical significance but its not exactly something to be celebrated.
Not only that, but after seeing it in Bayeux, it's a bit of an anticlimax. Why the media are getting so excited about a bit of old carpet hung on the wall in a glass cabinet I'll never know.
Have the French apologised for the Norman suppression and Cultural Cleansing yet?

Cobnapint

8,647 posts

153 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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I think they gave a Gaelic shrug of the shoulders once.

Wingo

302 posts

173 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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The Nurse complaining on QT that the 24 hour canteen had gone does the profession no credit. In my experience the majority of Nursing staff are perfectly capable of feeding themselves when the hospital doesn't provide a canteen facility.
If the choice is better equipment, a badly needed ward refurbishment or a 24 hour canteen the nurses would choose the latter? ReallY?

There is a vocal section of the Nursing profession that go to a great deal of effort to shout from the roof tops how badly paid they are, how poor the working conditions are and how overworked they are.

Not exactly selling the job to new entrants is it? It won't have occured to them that putting new entrants off means they are contributing significantly to things they are complaining about.

Billions have been poured into pay at all levels in the NHS, maybe the tap has been turned off in more recent years and some perks have disappeared. The selective amnesia is incurable.

Wingo.

CoolHands

18,833 posts

197 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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gooner1 said:
BlackLabel said:
Cupramax said:
Ex London deputy mayor for education, where the fk did they dream that one up rofl


The full title was Deputy Mayor for Education and Culture of London. Prior to that she was Cultural Advisor to the Mayor of London and director of arts, culture and the creative industries for the Mayor of London. Clearly a very important lady. smile
Someone is making a good living ,changing the titles on that Departments door.
I work in a london school. Never heard of her, so she did a valuable job for education eh

Thorodin

2,459 posts

135 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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The tapestry rears its ugly head again. And I do mean ugly. There are children's samplers from that period that are streets ahead in terms of depiction of events, people, and skilled embroidery. It's embarrassingly crude in its representation of events, not unlike French history come to think of it.
The American guy on the panel was ingratiatingly obsequious. I thought he thought he was being 'English'.

WattsieST170

227 posts

191 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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The Dangerous Elk said:
alfie2244 said:
Le Vette said:
irocfan said:
jjlynn27 said:
AstonZagato said:
The red team is economically incompetent. The blue team is socially incompetent. Neither listens to the good ideas the other side occasionally has. They never work together for the common good.

They all think debate is merely taking the polar opposite view and having an argument.
Rarely the post comes about that sums so much, so precisely, so succinctly.
Regrettably on the money
Hear hear.
Nail on head.
Can I ask what is the Polar Opposite of the Red sides batst crazy policies ?
Presumably the sort of economically very right wing policies you only really hear of from the US. We don't really have an equivalent in the UK.

Gunshot victim eh? Please place your card in the card reader in order to open the ambulance door. smile

turbomoped

4,180 posts

85 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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watched 1 minute of it. They usual clever after the fact audience members gobbing off. Panel that agrees with anything the audience says.
Usual dross to give the illusion of an inclusive democratic society.

colonel c

7,892 posts

241 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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turbomoped said:
watched 1 minute of it. They usual clever after the fact audience members gobbing off. Panel that agrees with anything the audience says.
Usual dross to give the illusion of an inclusive democratic society.
Oh!

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