North Korea - how serious should we take them?

[anonymous-user]

boyse7en said:

I'm worried about his grabbing hands...

I agree, his grabbing hands, definitely grab all they can all for themselves.

I mean, after all, It's a competitive world.

[MDMetal]

Trumps great for building up trusts isn't he, has he been straight on anything ever or just wallowed round like a tree in a breeze. How he did well in business is beyond me.... oh wait he didn't!

[Cobnapint]

p1stonhead said:

saaby93 said:

Letter

'ours are so massive and powerful'.........................

Unreal.

They sure aren't the words of a global statesman.

They're the words of somebody with the mind of a 12 year old.

World leaders around the globe must be wincing with embarrassment.

[anonymous-user]

Better that Trump cancelled it before Kim did

[Gandahar]

JPJPJP said:

Better that Trump cancelled it before Kim did

Thinking about it, a very good 8 word summary.

Mr T does not like losing face.

Strangely neither did Mrs T.

[jmorgan]

Or John Bolton.

[Chimune]

Gandahar said:

JPJPJP said:

Mr T does not like losing face.

He does have a spare one though....

[Writhing]

I think Kim should try to arrange a meeting with our PM and the French PM. It would show he’s serious about the de-nuclear debate and would also be a poke in the eye for Trumpton. He may even get a Nobel prize.

[jmorgan]

These should be going cheap then (commemorative coin)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44217116

[saaby93]

jmorgan said:

These should be going cheap then (commemorative coin)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44217116

Isnt that a good enough reason for whats happened?

[Halb]

ElectricSoup said:

"He blows goats. I have proof."

ahhh nostalgia

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anyhoo, SK seem a tad puzzled, but does it matter what Trump does? It's a real chat between N&S K

[Wobbegong]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44248256

North Korea suggesting they’re still open to talks.

What with this and the EU-talks pantomime, it makes me worry about world politics and the people ‘leading’ us

[Puggit]

Sky news twitter feed showing the journey through NK and some small bangs pretending to dismantle their nuclear programme:

https://twitter.com/chesh/status/99873249123312844...

[Cobnapint]

This is all a sham. They've blown up some knackered old tunnel entrances to a test site that was already out of action due to a mountain sitting down on it and all of a sudden the world is expected to believe he's dismantled his nuclear test program? What !?

This is nowhere near irreversible and verifiable de-nuclearisation, not even close. The meetings haven't even begun on this yet.

But I'm sure Kim is now fully expecting Trump to meet with him and announce the US withdrawal from SK in return.

This is going nowhere.

[moustachebandit]

Maybe its because they live in a bubble - but does the DPRK really think the world is convinced that they have dismantled their nuclear program with the broadcast of some low grade hollywood-esque explosions. Pure cinema.

Even the most gullible out there must be able to see that this is all a show. The world has right to be very cynical about NK's intentions. They are being very disingenuous and the facility closing ceremony is just a ruse carried out for a multitude of reasons.

The whole thing is nothing more than some very transparent PR exercise which will only fool the most gullible out there.

[Efbe]

Cobnapint said:

This is all a sham. They've blown up some knackered old tunnel entrances to a test site that was already out of action due to a mountain sitting down on it and all of a sudden the world is expected to believe he's dismantled his nuclear test program? What !?

This is nowhere near irreversible and verifiable de-nuclearisation, not even close. The meetings haven't even begun on this yet.

But I'm sure Kim is now fully expecting Trump to meet with him and announce the US withdrawal from SK in return.

This is going nowhere.

of course it's a sham.
But there could be no other way. no matter how many inspectors you put in there it would still be a sham. In a country so locked down, secretive and controlled, there will be no way inspectors could work out if everything was destroyed. If anyone actually thinks they were really going to get rid of all of their research they they're fking idiots.

But that doesn't really matter. nuclear tests are very easy to spot.

As I said before, the US pulling out of this is not in the US best interest, NK don't really need them for any talks. SK are the important party here, after that China, then the US and Russia. All this will do is stop the US from being able to argue their case of keeping bases in SK

[Halb]

Efbe said:

But that doesn't really matter. nuclear tests are very easy to spot.

As I said before, the US pulling out of this is not in the US best interest, NK don't really need them for any talks. SK are the important party here, after that China, then the US and Russia. All this will do is stop the US from being able to argue their case of keeping bases in SK

Quite, and it was going in the right direction, it still seems to be, since the USA aren't needed.
So it's not worry time just yet.

[gadgetmac]

Halb said:

Efbe said:

But that doesn't really matter. nuclear tests are very easy to spot.

As I said before, the US pulling out of this is not in the US best interest, NK don't really need them for any talks. SK are the important party here, after that China, then the US and Russia. All this will do is stop the US from being able to argue their case of keeping bases in SK

Quite, and it was going in the right direction, it still seems to be, since the USA aren't needed.
So it's not worry time just yet.

The US are an imperialist country and won't accept any deal that sees them leave SK

[jmorgan]

Those doors to the tunnels were almost see through.

[Efbe]

gadgetmac said:

Halb said:

Efbe said:

But that doesn't really matter. nuclear tests are very easy to spot.

As I said before, the US pulling out of this is not in the US best interest, NK don't really need them for any talks. SK are the important party here, after that China, then the US and Russia. All this will do is stop the US from being able to argue their case of keeping bases in SK

Quite, and it was going in the right direction, it still seems to be, since the USA aren't needed.
So it's not worry time just yet.

The US are an imperialist country and won't accept any deal that sees them leave SK

I guess we will see now how strong the SK gvmt are.

If they go ahead with the talks then good for them, if not, then their own media will start calling them a puppet gvmt again. NK influence in SK media/politics (which is the same thing essentially!) is larger than would be liked.