Election 2019

Poll: Election 2019

Total Members Polled: 1601

Conservative Party: 58%
Labour: 8%
Lib Dem: 19%
Green: 1%
Brexit Party: 7%
UKIP: 0%
SNP: 1%
Plaid Cymru: 0%
Other.: 2%
Spoil ballot paper. : 5%
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JustALooseScrew

1,154 posts

69 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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essayer said:
Genius I'm sure, that is so bad it's funny.

A Winner Is You

25,022 posts

229 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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pingu393 said:
jakesmith said:
And an hour after I wrote this, guess what, the whole thing turns out to be another massive load of Labour bks.

https://twitter.com/glasterlaw1/status/12040728213...
Have Kuenessberg, Peston et al been sent this? It would be interesting to see if it gets reported. My bet is that it won't.
Any statement from the hospital yet?

pingu393

8,037 posts

207 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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paulw123 said:
Surely there must be CCTV footage? If the parents were found to have done this I’d like to see action taken against them as it’s a slur on the great NHS staff
My take on it is that it was an idea from a mum to get some quick dosh from The Mirror, but it got out of hand.

Are there any laws about disseminating fake news? If so, who is guilty? Is it The Mirror for not sourcing the story from two independent places? If there was a second source, what was it?

This could become very interesting. It seems that we have a genuine case of fake news that has been reported as fact. Let's see what the media do with it.

It doesn't detract from the fact that Boris showed no empathy, though.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

173 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Helicopter123 said:
If you are worried about the UK “ceasing to exist” how can you contemplate a vote for Boris? His Brexit plan will put a border down the Irish Sea and heightens the risk of Scottish independence.

I’m no Corbyn supporter but we need to build a fairer society for all. One that works for everyone.
You think Scottish Independence is more likely with BoJo than Corbyn, when the only mathematical way corbyn could get to number 10 is via a pact with Nicola 'don't even pick up the phone for me to put you in power if you're not offering us indyref2' Sturgeon?
You're either deliberately trolling, or utterly clueless about current affairs & widely reported news from the last 2-3 weeks.

Do me a favor and give the 'you need a biscuit' schtick a rest too, it wasn't funny the first time nor any subsequent time(s)

Carl_Manchester

12,369 posts

264 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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techiedave said:
Cracking stuff
The comedy element has shown up. This will inject some humour into the thread and defuse the situation
Thread has moved on from the Thursday night party and we are into recriminations already.

I think that Love Actually parody by the Tories is ace, OH is a remainer but she thought the video was creative smile

paulw123

3,297 posts

192 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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pingu393 said:
paulw123 said:
Surely there must be CCTV footage? If the parents were found to have done this I’d like to see action taken against them as it’s a slur on the great NHS staff
My take on it is that it was an idea from a mum to get some quick dosh from The Mirror, but it got out of hand.

Are there any laws about disseminating fake news? If so, who is guilty? Is it The Mirror for not sourcing the story from two independent places? If there was a second source, what was it?

This could become very interesting. It seems that we have a genuine case of fake news that has been reported as fact. Let's see what the media do with it.

It doesn't detract from the fact that Boris showed no empathy, though.
I’d like to see a full investigation into this though not just another let it slide as there is a GE on

Tony427

2,873 posts

235 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Vanden Saab said:
essayer said:
Ha ha ripping the piss out of Hugh.... brilliant...
That was really very good.........actually.

Wombat3

12,370 posts

208 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Helicopter123 said:
I’m no Corbyn supporter but we need to build a fairer society for all. One that works for everyone.
There is no shortage of opportunity.

There is however disparity of intelligence & ability (and some of good fortune) - it was and will be ever thus.

It has also long since been the case that the majority of human beings are a) competitive and b) exhibit at least some degree of self interest.

The best option available would therefore seem to be to try and harness those things & understand that since economic activity breeds and multiplies (and generates taxation revenue) the best course of action is therefore to encourage that & not cripple it.

Any alternative suggestions? because It has also long since been proven that Robin Hood's economic model never works & ultimately leaves everyone worse off in the end. The poorest suffer most and first - and then their children & grandchildren end up paying for it.....

jakesmith

9,461 posts

173 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Wombat3 said:
Helicopter123 said:
I’m no Corbyn supporter but we need to build a fairer society for all. One that works for everyone.
There is no shortage of opportunity.

There is however disparity of intelligence & ability (and some of good fortune) - it was and will be ever thus.

It has also long since been the case that the majority of human beings are a) competitive and b) exhibit at least some degree of self interest.

The best option available would therefore seem to be to try and harness those things & understand that since economic activity breeds and multiplies (and generates taxation revenue) the best course of action is therefore to encourage that & not cripple it.

Any alternative suggestions? because It has also long since been proven that Robin Hood's economic model never works & ultimately leaves everyone worse off in the end. The poorest suffer most and first - and then their children & grandchildren end up paying for it.....
I find in this day & age, with the record on communism well known, it is incredible that this murderous ideology could surface again, and from a mainstream political party. Have we learned nothing from Russia? Berlin? Mao's China? I'm guessing the population that will fall for the free broadband trick are simply too stupid to have learned / educated themselves about political history of the last 50 years, much of which may have even taken place in their own lifetime. And those that know all too well would have to suffer the destruction of everything good about our society. Those who I feel the most anger at (obviously not Jo Cox), are the Labour MPs who put Corbyn's name on the ballot paper for leadership 'to represent the left wing of the party'. Here are their names

Diane Abbott, MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington
Rushanara Ali, MP for Bethnal Green and Bow
Margaret Beckett, MP for Derby South
Richard Burgon, MP for Leeds East
Dawn Butler MP, for Brent Central
Ronnie Campbell, MP for Blyth Valley
Sarah Champion, MP for Rotherham
Jo Cox, MP for Batley and Spen
Neil Coyle, MP for Bermondsey and Old Southwark
Jon Cruddas, MP for Dagenham
Clive Efford, MP for Eltham
Frank Field, MP for Birkenhead
Louise Haigh, MP for Sheffield, Heeley
Kelvin Hopkins, MP for Luton North
Rupa Huq, MP for Ealing Central and Acton
Imran Hussain, MP for Bradford East
Huw Irranca-Davies, MP for Ogmore
Gordon Marsden, MP for Blackpool South
Michael Meacher, MP for Oldham West and Royton
Grahame Morris, MP for Easington
Chi Onwurah, MP for Newcastle Upon Tyne Central
Sadiq Khan, MP for Tooting
David Lammy, MP for Tottenham
Clive Lewis MP, for Norwich South
Rebecca Long-Bailey, MP for Salford and Eccles
John McDonnell, MP for Hayes and Harlington
Kate Osamor, MP for Edmonton
Tulip Siddiq, MP for Hampstead and Kilburn
Emily Thornberry, MP for Islington South and Finsbury
Dennis Skinner, MP for Bolsover
Cat Smith, MP for Lancaster and Fleetwood
Andrew Smith, MP for Oxford East
Gareth Thomas, MP for Harrow West
Jon Trickett, MP for Hemsworth
Catherine West, MP for Hornsey and Wood Green


Edited by jakesmith on Monday 9th December 23:09

Vanden Saab

14,254 posts

76 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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paulw123 said:
pingu393 said:
paulw123 said:
Surely there must be CCTV footage? If the parents were found to have done this I’d like to see action taken against them as it’s a slur on the great NHS staff
My take on it is that it was an idea from a mum to get some quick dosh from The Mirror, but it got out of hand.

Are there any laws about disseminating fake news? If so, who is guilty? Is it The Mirror for not sourcing the story from two independent places? If there was a second source, what was it?

This could become very interesting. It seems that we have a genuine case of fake news that has been reported as fact. Let's see what the media do with it.

It doesn't detract from the fact that Boris showed no empathy, though.
I’d like to see a full investigation into this though not just another let it slide as there is a GE on
BBC and others still not reporting that it was all a con... they did show Jezzer holding up the Mirror though at a rally... Tomorrow morning is going to be interesting once the other papers pick it up.

HurryUpAndWait

1,003 posts

205 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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FiF said:
Reminds me of once in the office was having an animated arm waving discussion when the office glamourpuss walked into my outstretched arm resulting in the inadvertent copping a feel of the generous and shapely chest. She was remarkably understanding about things as it was clearly an accidental encounter, but I still felt a right tit.
I like what you did there.

TriumphStag3.0V8

3,912 posts

83 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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jakesmith said:
You're either deliberately trolling, or utterly clueless
Or possibly both....

Carl_Manchester

12,369 posts

264 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Lord Sugar has stuck the boot into Corbyn.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

173 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Carl_Manchester said:
Lord Sugar has stuck the boot into Corbyn.
Again.

Funny watching him rip into Galloway a while back, it was a bit crude but perfect IMO
SHUT YER MOUTH! SHUT YER MOUTH!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-19384...


Baby Shark doo doo doo doo

15,078 posts

171 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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Tony427 said:
The child's mother is now asking that her child's experience is not politicised.

Bit too late for that once youve photographed your child and sent the piccies to the Mirror.



Wife (ED nurse) heard from one of her colleagues who is currently at Leeds that the whole thing was a setup.

So now the staff at Leeds General have the joy of the inevitable verbal and physical abuse because someone wanted to score political points and stir up hatred rolleyes It’s quite sad when staff are being warned to be on the lookout for fake patients trying to cause trouble due to the upcoming election.

Allanv

3,540 posts

188 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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Vanden Saab said:
essayer said:
Ha ha ripping the piss out of Hugh.... brilliant...
And you have to be as thick as fk to believe SM propaganda

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
Tony427 said:
The child's mother is now asking that her child's experience is not politicised.

Bit too late for that once youve photographed your child and sent the piccies to the Mirror.



Wife (ED nurse) heard from one of her colleagues who is currently at Leeds that the whole thing was a setup.

So now the staff at Leeds General have the joy of the inevitable verbal and physical abuse because someone wanted to score political points and stir up hatred rolleyes It’s quite sad when staff are being warned to be on the lookout for fake patients trying to cause trouble due to the upcoming election.
Sky news are still pushing this story hard, as a potential turning point, first story on the midnight news.

The Li-ion King

3,768 posts

66 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
Tony427 said:
The child's mother is now asking that her child's experience is not politicised.

Bit too late for that once youve photographed your child and sent the piccies to the Mirror.



Wife (ED nurse) heard from one of her colleagues who is currently at Leeds that the whole thing was a setup.

So now the staff at Leeds General have the joy of the inevitable verbal and physical abuse because someone wanted to score political points and stir up hatred rolleyes It’s quite sad when staff are being warned to be on the lookout for fake patients trying to cause trouble due to the upcoming election.
That is terrible, but politicians will do anything. It reminds me of that stunt Corbyn once pulled by sitting on the floor of a Virgin train and claiming it was overcrowded, yet there were plenty of seats nearby. Not sure if it is indifference coupled with bad weather, but no one seems that bothered by this election compaign, and they seem as bad as each other. It is like buying from a car supermarket, things are packaged up to look good, but who knows what horrors await in a few weeks' time.

If the weather is anything to go by, I wonder what the turn out will be? Will it be another hung parliament? confused

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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jakesmith said:
Gordon Marsden, MP for Blackpool South


Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 9th December 23:09
Sooty has a few things to say about Gordon
Seems he has been a bit naughty on occasions.
Once upon a time there was a place called Crystal rd which had some properties on it and it was sold to a council at great cost.
There was a bit of a whiff
A new invigorating broom took over and was adamant that the mystery of the sale price for Crystal Rd and why it was bought would be brought into the open the whiff would be exposed
Except it never ever was as it became clear that there was a bad whiff about it and this bad whiff unfortunately clung to people on various sides of the political divide.
A certain local MP strongly advised the new broom that any exposure would be deeply damaging to all concerned and that a new broom could just as easily brush things into the carpet as it could into open scrutiny


JagLover

42,668 posts

237 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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essayer said:
laugh
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