Poll: Election 2019
Total Members Polled: 1601
Discussion
pingu393 said:
My take on it is that it was an idea from a mum to get some quick dosh from The Mirror, but it got out of hand.
Are there any laws about disseminating fake news? If so, who is guilty? Is it The Mirror for not sourcing the story from two independent places? If there was a second source, what was it?
This could become very interesting. It seems that we have a genuine case of fake news that has been reported as fact. Let's see what the media do with it.
It doesn't detract from the fact that Boris showed no empathy, though.
Showed no empathy for what you believe to be a made up story?Are there any laws about disseminating fake news? If so, who is guilty? Is it The Mirror for not sourcing the story from two independent places? If there was a second source, what was it?
This could become very interesting. It seems that we have a genuine case of fake news that has been reported as fact. Let's see what the media do with it.
It doesn't detract from the fact that Boris showed no empathy, though.
Whether it is made up, or not, that is the whole point. He doesn't know what has happened because all he has is a picture being waved around in front of him on someone's phone.
It might be genuine, but the hospital has had a crises and so their are no beds for any except the serious ill. It might be exaggerated, or it might be made up entirely. How is he supposed to apologise when he doesn't know if it is any of those things?.
HurryUpAndWait said:
FiF said:
Reminds me of once in the office was having an animated arm waving discussion when the office glamourpuss walked into my outstretched arm resulting in the inadvertent copping a feel of the generous and shapely chest. She was remarkably understanding about things as it was clearly an accidental encounter, but I still felt a right tit.
I like what you did there.JagLover said:
Showed no empathy for what you believe to be a made up story?
Whether it is made up, or not, that is the whole point. He doesn't know what has happened because all he has is a picture being waved around in front of him on someone's phone.
It might be genuine, but the hospital has had a crises and so their are no beds for any except the serious ill. It might be exaggerated, or it might be made up entirely. How is he supposed to apologise when he doesn't know if it is any of those things?.
You can still show empathy. “That sounds very upsetting, I’ll get my team to look into it” etc he doesn’t need to apologise or blame anyone. Whether it is made up, or not, that is the whole point. He doesn't know what has happened because all he has is a picture being waved around in front of him on someone's phone.
It might be genuine, but the hospital has had a crises and so their are no beds for any except the serious ill. It might be exaggerated, or it might be made up entirely. How is he supposed to apologise when he doesn't know if it is any of those things?.
El stovey said:
JagLover said:
Showed no empathy for what you believe to be a made up story?
Whether it is made up, or not, that is the whole point. He doesn't know what has happened because all he has is a picture being waved around in front of him on someone's phone.
It might be genuine, but the hospital has had a crises and so their are no beds for any except the serious ill. It might be exaggerated, or it might be made up entirely. How is he supposed to apologise when he doesn't know if it is any of those things?.
You can still show empathy. “That sounds very upsetting, I’ll get my team to look into it” etc he doesn’t need to apologise or blame anyone. Whether it is made up, or not, that is the whole point. He doesn't know what has happened because all he has is a picture being waved around in front of him on someone's phone.
It might be genuine, but the hospital has had a crises and so their are no beds for any except the serious ill. It might be exaggerated, or it might be made up entirely. How is he supposed to apologise when he doesn't know if it is any of those things?.
greygoose said:
Exactly, refusing to look at the picture and then stealing the reporter’s phone is an odd reaction to say the least. It would be far easier to look at the photo of the ill child and show some compassion, unless you are a person with no empathy and solely focused on yourself.......
Very weird reaction indeed.Some drone again having to make excuses for Boris on tv this morning.
citizensm1th said:
It is interesting that in interviews this morning the tories are not condemning the story of the four year old as fake unlike some on here.
You have to wonder why if as stated on here that is was just a mother after money and it was a set up why the tories are not pointing this out?
Attacking the story without some hard evidence it's a stitch up will make them appear worse than they already do. It would also keep it in the news. You have to wonder why if as stated on here that is was just a mother after money and it was a set up why the tories are not pointing this out?
Better to move on and try to push things they really do want to talk about.
citizensm1th said:
It is interesting that in interviews this morning the tories are not condemning the story of the four year old as fake unlike some on here.
You have to wonder why if as stated on here that is was just a mother after money and it was a set up why the tories are not pointing this out?
Probably because it would be political suicide to accuse a mother of faking a photo using her sick child as bait. If any of it turned out to be even slightly true, the other parties would not stop talking about it until the election. You have to wonder why if as stated on here that is was just a mother after money and it was a set up why the tories are not pointing this out?
Boris and co will be banking on the 24 hour news cycle taking its course, and by this evening it will all be forgotten.
janesmith1950 said:
ttacking the story without some hard evidence it's a stitch up will make them appear worse than they already do. It would also keep it in the news.
Better to move on and try to push things they really do want to talk about.
But but we have been told on here that it categorically is a fake story as a friend of someone's wife told them so and this was backed up by various twitter posts saying the same that it was all fake. Better to move on and try to push things they really do want to talk about.
El stovey said:
JagLover said:
Showed no empathy for what you believe to be a made up story?
Whether it is made up, or not, that is the whole point. He doesn't know what has happened because all he has is a picture being waved around in front of him on someone's phone.
It might be genuine, but the hospital has had a crises and so their are no beds for any except the serious ill. It might be exaggerated, or it might be made up entirely. How is he supposed to apologise when he doesn't know if it is any of those things?.
You can still show empathy. “That sounds very upsetting, I’ll get my team to look into it” etc he doesn’t need to apologise or blame anyone. Whether it is made up, or not, that is the whole point. He doesn't know what has happened because all he has is a picture being waved around in front of him on someone's phone.
It might be genuine, but the hospital has had a crises and so their are no beds for any except the serious ill. It might be exaggerated, or it might be made up entirely. How is he supposed to apologise when he doesn't know if it is any of those things?.
The defenses people are offering are risible.
But hey, Corbyn Marxists and Brexit.
citizensm1th said:
It is interesting that in interviews this morning the tories are not condemning the story of the four year old as fake unlike some on here.
You have to wonder why if as stated on here that is was just a mother after money and it was a set up why the tories are not pointing this out?
I would imagine that they would want to make sure what the true story is, it would make them look worse, if the story actually wasn't fake. You have to wonder why if as stated on here that is was just a mother after money and it was a set up why the tories are not pointing this out?
citizensm1th said:
It is interesting that in interviews this morning the tories are not condemning the story of the four year old as fake unlike some on here.
You have to wonder why if as stated on here that is was just a mother after money and it was a set up why the tories are not pointing this out?
Probably because reacting to the story would just keep it alive and might even encourage other people to stage their own NHS crisis photoshoots in the hope of getting some money off the newspapers. Regardless of whether it was a setup, Boris is unlikely to have known that at the time he was asked about it. For whatever reason he lost his temper with a reporter and that isn't a good look. Best strategy for him is to talk about other stuff and get the rebuttal out unofficially via social media.You have to wonder why if as stated on here that is was just a mother after money and it was a set up why the tories are not pointing this out?
PRTVR said:
citizensm1th said:
It is interesting that in interviews this morning the tories are not condemning the story of the four year old as fake unlike some on here.
You have to wonder why if as stated on here that is was just a mother after money and it was a set up why the tories are not pointing this out?
I would imagine that they would want to make sure what the true story is, it would make them look worse, if the story actually wasn't fake. You have to wonder why if as stated on here that is was just a mother after money and it was a set up why the tories are not pointing this out?
Better to get the press to do the digging.
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Just on a basic human decency level you don't react like Boris did.
The defenses people are offering are risible.
But hey, Corbyn Marxists and Brexit.
I’d rather a decent man like Corbyn than non-decent Johnson. If only principled Corbyn looked at the phone and showed some compassion. He is a decent incompetent racist Marxist and decency and racism is much more important to me in a leader than competence. The defenses people are offering are risible.
But hey, Corbyn Marxists and Brexit.
PRTVR said:
I would imagine that they would want to make sure what the true story is, it would make them look worse, if the story actually wasn't fake.
I am more pointing the willingness of some on here to leap to any defence of boris however tenuous cos boris. I would think that that particular hospital management spent a lot of time last night working on finding out the exact facts of what went on. Especially after hancocks whistle-stop visit.
jakesmith said:
I’d rather a decent man like Corbyn than non-decent Johnson. If only principled Corbyn looked at the phone and showed some compassion. He is a decent incompetent racist Marxist and decency and racism is much more important to me in a leader than competence.
Corbyn would have stood there staring blankly at the phone until some Momentum stooge came up and whispered to him what to say. Or pressed the screen and made the picture disappear, then had a massive old-man-fumble trying to get it back and ending up opening a weather app or something.
jakesmith said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Just on a basic human decency level you don't react like Boris did.
The defenses people are offering are risible.
But hey, Corbyn Marxists and Brexit.
I’d rather a decent man like Corbyn than non-decent Johnson. If only principled Corbyn looked at the phone and showed some compassion. He is a decent incompetent racist Marxist and decency and racism is much more important to me in a leader than competence. The defenses people are offering are risible.
But hey, Corbyn Marxists and Brexit.
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