James Stunts business’ raided, days after brothers death

James Stunts business’ raided, days after brothers death

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hyphen

26,262 posts

92 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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Burwood said:
All the money Stunt had has been frozen by the authorities as they suspect he is a criminal and I would wager you don't get such an order with just light weight evidence. .
Hasn't it been a few years? Why is taking so long to bring a case.

Burwood

18,709 posts

248 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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hyphen said:
Burwood said:
All the money Stunt had has been frozen by the authorities as they suspect he is a criminal and I would wager you don't get such an order with just light weight evidence. .
Hasn't it been a few years? Why is taking so long to bring a case.
no idea. Still frozen and media said in June he is going to be charged. He's broke without the frozen assets. Proceeds of Crime Order dated Aug 2018.

A quote from the papers His international man of mystery act is all well and good, but a fluctuating weight and preference for shiny suits combine, at times, to give him the air of a David Brent rather than a James Bond.

S11Steve

6,375 posts

186 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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WCZ said:
MX5Biologist said:
No aUK diplomatic passport. You can buy diplomatic passports from many countries.

https://www.dw.com/en/diplomatic-passports-pouches...
that's pretty cool!
I felt a little bit "James Bond" by having two passports and dual nationality which may be handy post Brexit, but a diplomatic passport is way cooler!

Want!



S11Steve

6,375 posts

186 months

Wednesday 9th December 2020
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"Tycoon James Stunt was ‘ripe for exploitation’ due to his association with ‘drugs and prostitutes’," - https://courtnewsuk.co.uk/james-stunt-was-ripe-for...


Why does this not surprise me in the slightest? The rest of the article is behind a paywall,

g4ry13

17,315 posts

257 months

Wednesday 9th December 2020
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Still not dead then.

I always expect to see something along those lines when this thread is bumped.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

198 months

Wednesday 9th December 2020
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g4ry13 said:
Still not dead then.

I always expect to see something along those lines when this thread is bumped.
Same as TAD's M5 thread, it gets bumped I immediately think "it's died again".

Horsey McHorseface

Original Poster:

2,553 posts

186 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2022
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£266m dirty money trial begins at Leeds Cloth Hall Court: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10778453/...

z4RRSchris

11,377 posts

181 months

Wednesday 4th May 2022
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seems like a pretty stupid operation putting a million in cash a day into a bank account.

S11Steve

6,375 posts

186 months

Wednesday 4th May 2022
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Going back a bit, but I wasn't aware of Stunt being charged with this either - https://news.sky.com/story/ex-husband-of-f1-heires...

Still not gone to trial yet either.


rallycross

12,907 posts

239 months

Wednesday 4th May 2022
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z4RRSchris said:
seems like a pretty stupid operation putting a million in cash a day into a bank account.
It sounds bizarre that anyone would think they’d get away with that reading the details daily deposits of between £70k and £2.2m everyday with money in sports bags and carrier bags to one bank in Yorkshire, lots of Scottish notes and money arriving with a bad smell (literally dirty money!).



TwistingMyMelon

6,388 posts

207 months

Wednesday 4th May 2022
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Its mad

But

It also worked for quite a while - and its also taken a while for it to come to court

If I was a betting man, Shunty has been pawned out to run things due to his nativity anda taste for the PH fave "coke and hookers" someone else was pulling the strings in the shadows

Terrys chocolate Orange anyone?

Edited by TwistingMyMelon on Wednesday 4th May 10:02

z4RRSchris

11,377 posts

181 months

Wednesday 4th May 2022
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natwest were fined £264m as part of the same case,

edit: the police shut it down in 2016, they fined natwest in 2021, and now they have followed the cash to these 8, inc stunt.

z4RRSchris

11,377 posts

181 months

Wednesday 4th May 2022
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Introducing Fowler Oldfield, a jewellers in Bradford, which was founded in 1897 and operated for many years as a legitimate jewellery business. In recent years however, Fowler Oldfield presented itself as a ‘cash for gold’ business while in many ways acting like a criminal bank. Any criminal group could walk into its premises with a bag full of dirty money and leave with an agreement that for a fee of around 7% they would start to receive clean money funnelling into their accounts as wages or clean assets. The building itself was a massive warehouse with lots of desks and weighing scales, which were supposedly being used for ‘cash-for-gold’ transactions, but were in fact being used to count the criminal cash that was coming in.

There are several reasons why criminals opted to launder their cash using this service:

• They could launder almost unlimited amounts
• It only cost 7% (vs the more expensive option of buying a cash-based business through which to launder funds)
• Reduced hassle and risk


av185

18,713 posts

129 months

Wednesday 4th May 2022
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Shock horror Bradford and Birmingham those most delightful of cities in the headlines yet again. rolleyes

FourWheelDrift

88,822 posts

286 months

Wednesday 4th May 2022
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anonymous said:
[redacted]
They set up a high-stakes poker game at the Casino Royale in Montenegro.

z4RRSchris

11,377 posts

181 months

Wednesday 4th May 2022
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anonymous said:
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it was used to buy gold (at places like stunts) which is now long gone.

i imagine the machine went like this, which is highly unsophisticated and terrible laundering, gold isn't a cash business to start with.

you give £100 to Fowler Oldfield
They deposit it in cash into natwest
they use that to buy gold at stunts / other places
they give you back £93 in gold / transfer


rustyuk

4,601 posts

213 months

Wednesday 4th May 2022
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How the hell did they think depositing £1.7 million in cash a day would go unnoticed.

AyBee

10,570 posts

204 months

Wednesday 4th May 2022
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z4RRSchris said:
Introducing Fowler Oldfield, a jewellers in Bradford, which was founded in 1897 and operated for many years as a legitimate jewellery business. In recent years however, Fowler Oldfield presented itself as a ‘cash for gold’ business while in many ways acting like a criminal bank. Any criminal group could walk into its premises with a bag full of dirty money and leave with an agreement that for a fee of around 7% they would start to receive clean money funnelling into their accounts as wages or clean assets. The building itself was a massive warehouse with lots of desks and weighing scales, which were supposedly being used for ‘cash-for-gold’ transactions, but were in fact being used to count the criminal cash that was coming in.

There are several reasons why criminals opted to launder their cash using this service:

• They could launder almost unlimited amounts
• It only cost 7% (vs the more expensive option of buying a cash-based business through which to launder funds)
• Reduced hassle and risk
One fundamental issue with that business, cash FOR gold, means that cash goes out of the business, not in (in vast quantities on a daily basis!) laugh

Oakey

27,621 posts

218 months

Wednesday 4th May 2022
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rallycross said:
It sounds bizarre that anyone would think they’d get away with that reading the details daily deposits of between £70k and £2.2m everyday with money in sports bags and carrier bags to one bank in Yorkshire, lots of Scottish notes and money arriving with a bad smell (literally dirty money!).


It's happened before

https://www.buzzfeed.com/heidiblake/this-tory-dono...

MrJuice

3,456 posts

158 months

Wednesday 4th May 2022
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rustyuk said:
How the hell did they think depositing £1.7 million in cash a day would go unnoticed.
money laundering does not happen in these great isles of Britain.

The truth is that when people are being paid and looked after to look the other way, all sorts of st happens. Shock horror, Brits are as corrupt as anyone else.