UN Workers 'Beheaded' In Afghan Koran Protest

[anonymous-user]

thegman said:

Wow. Big man.

I'm not really but this guy deserved it.

[Godzuki]

Sheeda Pistol said:

Godzuki said:

You said any protection for someone who offended should be removed and they should take the consequences...So what consequences were you talking about? whatever they may be Protection from who? those that they are offending it has nothing to do with someone being innocent, or not. I am wondering what consequences would be for the offender? Explain that, if you don't mind. i don't mind, whatever the offended wish to dish out to them

"I'm being myself again (AAARRGGH)", what oj earth does that mean? I'm simply responding to YOUR posts, Shaid. Sorry for actually questioning things. Your not questioning things, your just being BM

Again, "the laws should not protect you"... From what? FFS, are you seriously stupid? What do you think? The tooth fairy perhaps! Again, no-one died as a result of the poppy burning. But they very well could have if the police were not there Get that in your head please, because your argument makes no sense in that regard. people may be angry, but no-one will die from it. ("fking high horse"? Please, stop getting so angry. It doesn't look good on you)

Would I get violent against someone insulting my mother? No, I wouldn't I would argue with them, but again, death would not result from it. This is the key to this thread, Shaid, and you seem to miss it entirely. The difference in reaction from offense from differing sections of society.

So, Shaid, do you endorse violence against offendors? You seem to want to dance around the question. I asked what consequences you were talking about, so have the balls to stand up and answer the question directly. DO you think that violence is justified when religion is offended?

[Perra]

Sheeda Pistol said:

Godzuki said:

You said any protection for someone who offended should be removed and they should take the consequences...So what consequences were you talking about? whatever they may be Protection from who? those that they are offending it has nothing to do with someone being innocent, or not. I am wondering what consequences would be for the offender? Explain that, if you don't mind. i don't mind, whatever the offended wish to dish out to them

"I'm being myself again (AAARRGGH)", what oj earth does that mean? I'm simply responding to YOUR posts, Shaid. Sorry for actually questioning things. Your not questioning things, your just being BM

Again, "the laws should not protect you"... From what? FFS, are you seriously stupid? What do you think? The tooth fairy perhaps! Again, no-one died as a result of the poppy burning. But they very well could have if the police were not there Get that in your head please, because your argument makes no sense in that regard. people may be angry, but no-one will die from it. ("fking high horse"? Please, stop getting so angry. It doesn't look good on you)

Would I get violent against someone insulting my mother? No, I wouldn't I would argue with them, but again, death would not result from it. This is the key to this thread, Shaid, and you seem to miss it entirely. The difference in reaction from offense from differing sections of society.

Worst construction of a post ever but I think you said something like anything goes and the offended can do what they want?

So:

Someone came up to me the other day and told me my GT Turbo was tacky (true story), so I chopped his fking heeeeed offffff!(not a true story)

[Godzuki]

Sheeda Pistol said:

Godzuki said:

Shaid, do you believe violence is the right of the offended?

Nope, but in some cases a smack in the mouth is deserved. Someone giving abuse to your mother is one of them people.

I would have no sympathy for poppy burners getting a slap up or worse. Same thing for this bnp nutter.

Wow... You want to be violent against someone who burned a book. Are you really that weak? Is your religion really that weak?

[Perra]

Sheeda Pistol said:

Godzuki said:

Shaid, do you believe violence is the right of the offended?

Nope, but in some cases a smack in the mouth is deserved. Someone giving abuse to your mother is one of them people.

I would have no sympathy for poppy burners getting a slap up or worse. Same thing for this bnp nutter.

I think you mean Yes.

[thegman]

Godzuki said:

Wow... You want to be violent against someone who burned a book. Are you really that weak? Is your religion really that weak?

I can understand why people respond emotively. Its a natural reaction, but not a rational one. The point of the law is to provide an objective set of rules, regardless of how emotive the situation is. So as an individual I can see myself punching somebody who had made me angry just through words, but I would NOT expect the law to support this action. Funnily enough this goes back to my earlier critisicm of Theocratic Islamic States. You can't combine religion and law and expect the outcome to be rational.

[Godzuki]

thegman said:

I can understand why people respond emotively. Its a natural reaction, but not a rational one. The point of the law is to provide an objective set of rules, regardless of how emotive the situation is. So as an individual I can see myself punching somebody who had made me angry just through words, but I would NOT expect the law to support this action. Funnily enough this goes back to my earlier critisicm of Theocratic Islamic States. You can't combine religion and law and expect the outcome to be rational.

Spot on, in fact. Emotional vioelnce is seldom justified, but Shaid seems to be quite happy for it to be so, and seemingly wants the law to not be involved when someone is offended. Amazing. I'm quite offended about that, and will pop round to Shaids gaff to lop off his head, as is clearly my right.

[Perra]

thegman said:

Godzuki said:

Wow... You want to be violent against someone who burned a book. Are you really that weak? Is your religion really that weak?

I can understand why people respond emotively. Its a natural reaction, but not a rational one. The point of the law is to provide an objective set of rules, regardless of how emotive the situation is. So as an individual I can see myself punching somebody who had made me angry just through words, but I would NOT expect the law to support this action. Funnily enough this goes back to my earlier critisicm of Theocratic Islamic States. You can't combine religion and law and expect the outcome to be rational.

Yeah great post. It's like religious people run on just emotion and do whatever they feel is right as opposed to what is logical and rational.

[carmonk]

I've nothing to day, the Muslims are making my argument for me.

[Godzuki]

I'd ask questions, but I'm too

Shaid the offended said:

...seriously stupid...

to word one...

[Perra]

carmonk said:

I've nothing to day, the Muslims are making my argument for me.

I wondered where you were! Have you just been eating popcorn?

[anonymous-user]

Godzuki said:

So, Shaid, do you endorse violence against offendors? You seem to want to dance around the question. I asked what consequences you were talking about, so have the balls to stand up and answer the question directly. DO you think that violence is justified when religion is offended?

Dancing round the question. FFS give yourself a break will you. I will answer the question how i see fit not how some fking PC brigader of the internet would like it answered.

I told you already and i will one last time so read carefully.

I could not care less what the consequences of some lund insulting religion / poppies are. Maybe half an iota but nothing more. fk em, they wish to offend and cause a reaction and they got it. Remove all protection from the law so they can face the people they so highly wish to offend.

I don't think that anyone should have a right to be violence. But actions by these offensive pricks cause too many problems in society. If they are nipped in the bud there and then then it would be end of it. So in certain situations violence is quite rightly and justifiably deserved!

[carmonk]

Perra said:

carmonk said:

I've nothing to day, the Muslims are making my argument for me.

I wondered where you were! Have you just been eating popcorn?

Ha, didn't see the thread to be honest. I'm happy to let the usual suspects incriminate themselves without any intervention from me

[anonymous-user]

carmonk said:

Perra said:

carmonk said:

I've nothing to day, the Muslims are making my argument for me.

I wondered where you were! Have you just been eating popcorn?

Ha, didn't see the thread to be honest. I'm happy to let the usual suspects incriminate themselves without any intervention from me

There is nothing you can do or say other than the pretty obvious 'your thick, religion sucks, atheism rocks'.

[Godzuki]

Sheeda Pistol said:

Dancing round the question. FFS give yourself a break will you. I will answer the question how i see fit not how some fking PC brigader of the internet would like it answered.

I told you already and i will one last time so read carefully.

I could not care less what the consequences of some lund insulting religion / poppies are. Maybe half an iota but nothing more. fk em, they wish to offend and cause a reaction and they got it. Remove all protection from the law so they can face the people they so highly wish to offend.

I don't think that anyone should have a right to be violence. But actions by these offensive pricks cause too many problems in society. If they are nipped in the bud there and then then it would be end of it. So in certain situations violence is quite rightly and justifiably deserved!

Stop using so many swear words. And for the record, I'm not "seriously stupid"... I asked you what the consequences were that you referred to. YOU danced around those questions, and still did so in that response. I haven't insulted you by swearing, or calling you stupid, so I'd appreciate it is you didn't do the same to me. I see you're using Lund again... Very intelligent response.


So, we have finally discovered that you do not care what action is taken against those to have offended. That's all I needed, thanks very much, and will simply go to add something else to reinforce the notion that Islam is inherently violent, after all, aren;t you a moderate, non-extremist, and yet you seem happy to have people punished for burning a Quran. You're not doing much for your religion, Shaid.

[Perra]

Sheeda Pistol said:

Godzuki said:

So, Shaid, do you endorse violence against offendors? You seem to want to dance around the question. I asked what consequences you were talking about, so have the balls to stand up and answer the question directly. DO you think that violence is justified when religion is offended?

Dancing round the question. FFS give yourself a break will you. I will answer the question how i see fit not how some fking PC brigader of the internet would like it answered.

I told you already and i will one last time so read carefully.

I could not care less what the consequences of some lund insulting religion / poppies are. Maybe half an iota but nothing more. fk em, they wish to offend and cause a reaction and they got it. Remove all protection from the law so they can face the people they so highly wish to offend.

I don't think that anyone should have a right to be violence. But actions by these offensive pricks cause too many problems in society. If they are nipped in the bud there and then then it would be end of it. So in certain situations violence is quite rightly and justifiably deserved!

Violence is never justified when someone has offended you. Please don't be so primitive.

[carmonk]

Sheeda Pistol said:

carmonk said:

Perra said:

carmonk said:

I've nothing to day, the Muslims are making my argument for me.

I wondered where you were! Have you just been eating popcorn?

Ha, didn't see the thread to be honest. I'm happy to let the usual suspects incriminate themselves without any intervention from me

There is nothing you can do or say other than the pretty obvious 'your thick, religion sucks, atheism rocks'.

I quite like that mantra, although I'd write "your thick" as "you're thick."

You're thick! Religion sucks! Atheism rocks! Oi Oi!

[Godzuki]

Not only does Atheism rock, but so does geology.

[anonymous-user]

Godzuki said:

Stop using so many swear words. And for the record, I'm not "seriously stupid"... I asked you what the consequences were that you referred to. YOU danced around those questions, and still did so in that response. I haven't insulted you by swearing, or calling you stupid, so I'd appreciate it is you didn't do the same to me. I see you're using Lund again... Very intelligent response.


So, we have finally discovered that you do not care what action is taken against those to have offended. That's all I needed, thanks very much, and will simply go to add something else to reinforce the notion that Islam is inherently violent, after all, aren;t you a moderate, non-extremist, and yet you seem happy to have people punished for burning a Quran. You're not doing much for your religion, Shaid.

Finally! It took you long enough. I made that pretty clear this morning. Hence why i felt the need to add a few words carefully selected to wake you up a little. Done the job.

There is nothing i nor anyone else can do to make you think otherwise of religion. You will always see us as violent and backwards and i see athiests as... well millitant athiests only as (can't say might get banned). I can do nothing that will appeal to you and you can do nothing that will appeal to me.

And BM thank you very much for misquoting me once again.

I'll argue / debate with atheists later. I have something to do (still need to get back to the other thread as well).

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 14th April 13:20

[anonymous-user]

carmonk said:

I quite like that mantra, although I'd write "your thick" as "you're thick."

You're thick! Religion sucks! Atheism rocks! Oi Oi!

That is pretty funny considering it is coming form you.